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JOE WILSON OUTED HIS WIFE, Media Ignores
The Truth Detector ^ | October 26, 2005 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/26/2005 5:26:59 PM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beltwaywarzone; cialeak; democrat; fbi; fitzgerald; heuvel; indictment; joewilson; johndean; libby; liberal; media; plame; rove; rush; valerieplame; vanityfair; vile
Thank you again Rush, for your truly outstanding research and fore all your hard work.

This ought to be required reading, and listening while reading, to all our voters and high-school students.

1 posted on 10/26/2005 5:27:00 PM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: Yosemitest

Mrs. Plame hadn't been out as an NOC since 1997, when she returned from her last assignment, married Mr. Wilson and had twins.

(That was in) USA Today reported (on July 14th). The distinction matters because a law that forbids disclosing the name of undercover CIA operatives applies to agents that had been on overseas assignment 'within the last five years.'


2 posted on 10/26/2005 5:44:31 PM PDT by Peach (I believe Congressman Weldon.)
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To: Yosemitest

Couldv their reason for being in the neighborhood be the fact that the Wilsom's lawyer (Christopher Wolf) is also their next-door neighbor?


3 posted on 10/26/2005 5:45:41 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Yosemitest
Bravo for Rush, but why should children concern themselves with news analysis?
My child knows to treat the media just as she treats product advertisements.
Things not to be taken at face value.
4 posted on 10/26/2005 5:51:03 PM PDT by sarasmom (What is the legal daily bag limit for RINOs in the USA?)
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To: Yosemitest

5 posted on 10/26/2005 5:54:40 PM PDT by petercooper (The Republican Party: We Suck Less.)
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To: Yosemitest

The media had a lot of egg on its face by the time it was over last night. Gee, wonder who threw that egg at them? I bet his initials are "K" "R".


6 posted on 10/26/2005 5:57:11 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Yosemitest

There will be no indictments because there was no crime committed.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 5:58:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

indict the media, they commit crimes on a daily basis.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 6:04:54 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Yosemitest

save


9 posted on 10/26/2005 6:05:55 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: Yosemitest

When this whole thing first broke, I thought I read somewhere (here maybe) that Joe Wilson's bio in Who's Who listed his wife as Valerie Plame. Anyone else remember that?


10 posted on 10/26/2005 6:06:19 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Homer1
I hope they were there to tell him his clients were being targeted for an indictment. After reading your post, I went back and read Christopher Wolf's article, A Neighbor's View of Valerie Plame's Outing, which can be found here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-07-24-wilson-neighbor_x.htm

I can't believe he lived by the Wilson's as long as he did and socialized with them, and did not know what she did! He should be called in to testify under oath and given a lie detector test.

11 posted on 10/26/2005 6:09:48 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Yosemitest

Funny...I don't see a campaign contribution from "Valerie Plame" to Gore in 1999. I see

WILSON, VALERIE E MS;WASHINGTON,DC 20007
BREWSTER-JENNINGS & ASSOC.
$1,000 to Gore on 4/22/1999

and

WILSON, VALERIE E; WASHINGTON,DC 20007
N/A/RETIRED
$372 to America Coming Together on 10/11/2004

I wonder where Rush is getting his info.


12 posted on 10/26/2005 6:17:58 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: tsmith130
Check it out: Photocopy of Joseph Wilson's Who's Who entry.

Scroll down the page a bit. Looks like Joe outted her quite awhile ago.

13 posted on 10/26/2005 6:26:44 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Yosemitest
EPIC Iraq Forum 2003(June 14th, 2003) -Wilson's bio is second from bottom of page.

I haven't listened to the audio yet cause I just ate dinner.

14 posted on 10/26/2005 6:36:32 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Gondring

"I wonder where Rush is getting his info."

Yeah he's off of this one. Could be however, a good reporter or someone outside gov't, could see both the Plame and Wilson name show up in association with Joe, do some research and make a connection.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 6:40:07 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Yosemitest

Hey Joe...Everybody's got somethin to hide
'cept for you, and your monkey, eh?

Well, maybe your monkey....You old rogue, you!
>B-)


16 posted on 10/26/2005 6:45:21 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: PeskyOne

Wolf is their lawyer. He's not going to say anything that would jeopardize their civil suit against the government.


17 posted on 10/26/2005 6:46:19 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: sarasmom
Godd for you, ... and your well-educated children.

And to add more to the topic...


Thanks again, Truth Detector.
What would we do ... without you?

18 posted on 10/26/2005 6:49:29 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: Gondring
WILSON, VALERIE E MS;WASHINGTON,DC 20007 BREWSTER-JENNINGS & ASSOC.
$1,000 to Gore on 4/22/1999

She used the name of the fake CIA company in that donation

19 posted on 10/26/2005 6:53:45 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Yosemitest

heard it live and purposfully 'got lost' to keep driving so as to hear the end of the bit.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 6:54:12 PM PDT by bitt ("..the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." Gen. Douglas MacArthur)
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To: PeskyOne
Thanks for the link: A neighbor's view of Valerie Wilson's 'outing' , By Christopher Wolf Posted 7/24/2005 8:45 PM at www.usatoday.com.
21 posted on 10/26/2005 6:54:43 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die)
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To: Mo1

Yes. I'm missing the point. Did she have a fake name, too? Wasn't Valerie Wilson supposedly employed by Brewster-Jennings & Assoc?


22 posted on 10/26/2005 6:55:10 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Homer1

Oooooooooh my goodness. I never thought of that! Excellent point!


23 posted on 10/26/2005 6:56:47 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: tsmith130

Follow the red arrow to the circle. Lots of people speculate this is how Novak knew her name as 'Plame'.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/wilson.whoswho.pdf


24 posted on 10/26/2005 7:00:46 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: Yosemitest
Thank you again Rush, for your truly outstanding research and fore all your hard work.

Ditto

25 posted on 10/26/2005 7:05:06 PM PDT by p23185
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To: Yosemitest

Okay--I read the article and now I want to Hurl. Barf-o- rama.


26 posted on 10/26/2005 7:07:47 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Yosemitest; All
Also see: Wilson was the first person to expose Valerie Plame
27 posted on 10/26/2005 7:12:57 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: blogblogginaway

Hmmmmm. Born in 1949...OK, so how did Wilson manage to miss serving in Vietnam?


28 posted on 10/26/2005 7:13:31 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: blogblogginaway

Anyone with a computer could associate Wilson and Flame. They lived together at the Watergate before they married(and before Joe divorced). http://cryptome.sabotage.org/plame-eyeball.htm
VALERIE PLAME - 2700 VA AVE NW, WASHINGTON, DC 20090 UNLISTED
[Watergate Complex 2700 Virginia Avenue NW Washington, DC 20037


29 posted on 10/26/2005 7:13:47 PM PDT by pnut22
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To: tsmith130

That's interesting but strange way. It lists his first wife, a Susan Dale Otchis, married 1973, divorced 1986. Then skips forward to his marriage to Valerie Plame in 1998. It leaves out his marriage to the "former French diplomat" named Jaqueline. He was married to her for 12 years. Does anyone have any information on her? It seems really strange that the forged Niger papers come from the French and here we have Joe Wilson married for 12 years to a former French diplomat and he's trying to keep that covered up. Is there any connection?


30 posted on 10/26/2005 7:19:20 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Gondring

Valarie Plame worked for Brewster-Jennings & Assoc


31 posted on 10/26/2005 7:20:18 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Yosemitest
The truth is - and has been - 'out there'. . Of course, It.might as well be broadcast on Mars; given that it is largley ignored in favor of the 'create your own reality' predisposition and determination of the Leftist MSM.

The fact that '1 in 10' believe that Bush people are guilty of a crime here; tells us that no matter how this pans out; the Libs are ahead in their own game. But how could they not be?

No credible White House response to the Lib/Left, WOT. . .that would be the MSM et al. . .with their aggregious assaults . . .their own 'contrived terror plots' against President Bush; his Administration; our Military and in total. . .against America.

Disgusted with the ' too late smart' Repubs and that includes President Bush.

What WERE they thinking when they watched this scenario go from a bad joke to a 'viable - depends on the meaning of viable - threat'?

32 posted on 10/26/2005 7:29:18 PM PDT by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Yosemitest
because they're sending FBI agents into the neighborhood and asking neighbors if they knew that she worked at the CIA. So I find this amazing. I can't believe they're still working on that aspect of this, and it could be for any reason whatsoever.

Which if true means Fitz is at best incompetent especially at this late stage or else has been bullied by the MSM to come up with something
33 posted on 10/26/2005 7:49:25 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
there's also this link to the Middle East institute (now web archived)

http://web.archive.org/web/20030720060539/http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html

34 posted on 10/26/2005 8:05:59 PM PDT by stratman1969 (CLINTON LIED - 3,000+ DIED)
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To: jan in Colorado

Ping


35 posted on 10/26/2005 8:40:55 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: blogblogginaway

Thanks for the link!


36 posted on 10/26/2005 10:32:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: zip

ping


37 posted on 10/27/2005 12:51:28 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: Yosemitest; Mo1; Howlin


Matt Cooper on the morning that Tenet's statement was released - "Rove told me material was going to be declassified in the coming days that would cast doubt on Wilson's mission and his findings."


Based on this TIME account, following the Walter Pincus article of June 12 there were lots of reporters asking lots of government officials about the Wilson trip. Newsday found "more than two dozen" journalists swept up in Fitzgerald's review of the administration contacts.


Pincus article:

Armed with information purportedly showing that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger one or two years earlier, the CIA in early February 2002 dispatched a retired U.S. ambassador to the country to investigate the claims, according to the senior U.S. officials and the former government official, who is familiar with the event. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity and on condition that the name of the former ambassador not be disclosed.


SSCI report (p. 41):

The CIA has told Committee staff that the former ambassador did not have a "formal" security clearance but had been given an "operational clearance" up to the Secret level for the purposes of his potential visit to Niger.

...DO officials told Committee staff that they promised the former ambassador that they would keep his relationship with CIA confidential, but did not ask the former ambassador to do the same and did not ask him to sign a confidentiality or non-disclosure agreement. The former ambassador left for Niger on February 21, 2002.


oe Wilson--What I didn't find in Africa

"...Before I left Niger, I briefed the ambassador on my findings, which were consistent with her own. I also shared my conclusions with members of her staff. In early March, I arrived in Washington and promptly provided a detailed briefing to the C.I.A. I later shared my conclusions with the State Department African Affairs Bureau. There was nothing secret or earth-shattering in my report, just as there was nothing secret about my trip..."


Per the WaPo:

"Karl Rove, President Bush's deputy chief of staff, has testified that he learned Plame's name from Novak a few days before telling another reporter she worked at the CIA and played a role in her husband's mission, according to a lawyer familiar with Rove's account. Rove has also testified that the first time he saw the State Department memo was when "people in the special prosecutor's office" showed it to him, said Robert Luskin, his attorney.

"He had not seen it or heard about it before that time," Luskin said."





38 posted on 10/27/2005 1:24:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Yosemitest

morning bump. . .


39 posted on 10/27/2005 3:28:07 AM PDT by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Yosemitest; admin

bttt


40 posted on 10/27/2005 6:10:39 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Yosemitest

BUMP


41 posted on 10/27/2005 6:26:25 AM PDT by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: FreedomCalls
See Post #42

Also:

Wilson (as Ambassador to Gabon) had/has connections to the Gabon Chief of State, Omar Bongo, who was the chief African ally of the French oil company TotalFinaElf, a major beneficiary of the Oil-for-Food bribes. Prior to the Iraq War, they had a contract with Saddam's regime worth an estimated 12.5 to 27.0 billion barrels of oil reserves. Also he had connections via the Middle East Institute and Rock Creek, both of which are Saudi controlled.

Wilson's wife Jacqueline was also apparently a lobbyist for Bongo and it seems Wilson was pretty chummy with Saddam's weapons buyer, having dinner with him on the eve that Kuwait was invaded in 1990. That makes it very clear that there are connections to oil-for-food. No wonder Wilson can afford his lifestyle.

Source: Posts 21 and 22

42 posted on 10/27/2005 8:09:55 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Smartaleck

Joe contributed $2000 in his own name. They refunded $1000 to him per guidelines. Valerie contributed $1000 the same day Joe got his refund. It's her address that was the tipoff. It's a phony CIA address.


43 posted on 10/27/2005 8:46:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: TexKat; Seadog Bytes; Cincinatus' Wife; Coleus; Berosus; blam; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Ping!
44 posted on 10/27/2005 10:38:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: tsmith130

The relevant text is "m. Valerie Elise Plame, Apr. 3, 1998," which not only appears in the 2003 edition, but ALL editions from 1999-2005!


46 posted on 11/19/2005 2:18:59 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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