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A Big Gorilla Weighs In [Hollywood blows $207 million on gorilla movie]
The New York Times ^ | October 27, 2005 | Sharon Waxman

Posted on 10/26/2005 9:24:47 PM PDT by SteveMcKing

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 26 - In hiring Peter Jackson, the Oscar-winning director of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, to remake the monster classic "King Kong," Universal Pictures took a daring leap, paying him $20 million to direct, produce and be the co-writer of the film.

With seven weeks to go before the movie's release, the risks are becoming clearer. After seeing a version of the film in late September at Mr. Jackson's studio in New Zealand, Universal executives agreed to release "King Kong" at a length of three hours.

The film is substantially longer than Universal had anticipated and presents dual obstacles: the extra length has helped increase the budget by a third, to $207 million, while requiring the studio, owned by General Electric, to reach for the kind of long-term audience interest that made hits out of three-hour movies like "Titanic" and the films in Mr. Jackson's "Rings" trilogy.

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KEYWORDS: ape; baboon; chimp; chimpanzee; gorilla; monkey; orangutan
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Decadence.

And they dare to preach anything.

1 posted on 10/26/2005 9:24:48 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

I have NO intention of ever seeing this movie, in any format.

Take THAT Hollywierdos!


2 posted on 10/26/2005 9:27:07 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: SteveMcKing

I've always liked Naomi Watts so I will wish this movie well.


3 posted on 10/26/2005 9:27:27 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: SteveMcKing

Sheesh. How many times are they going to remake that monkey-fest?


4 posted on 10/26/2005 9:27:55 PM PDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: SteveMcKing

If Peter Jackson is as faithful to the original book (yes, it was a book before it was a movie) as he was to Tolkien, it will make back the cost and a tidy profit.
The studio is taking a gamble by paying him up front. If the movie bombs, he takes his 20 mil and walks away. But if it's a mega-hit, they don't have to pay him residuals.


5 posted on 10/26/2005 9:28:26 PM PDT by Ostlandr ("Billions down the drain, and we ain't plugged it yet." - Federal Government motto)
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To: SteveMcKing

Investment


6 posted on 10/26/2005 9:29:00 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SteveMcKing

Adored his Ring. Spent most of the last weekend watching the extended version of all three with the fam.

Have never been that excited by any of the versions of KK that I've seen. Just don't understand the fuss or why PJ was so anxious to make this one. I can think of a LOT of movies I'd rather see him make.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 9:35:18 PM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: durasell

I guess Kong goes back to the Empire State Building? Hollywood's best buddies blew up Kong's last climb target...


8 posted on 10/26/2005 9:35:55 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Indict Joe Wilson!)
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To: Ostlandr

most likely he has points as well...few in hollywood are stupid enough to leave them on the table (like brando did for superman).


9 posted on 10/26/2005 9:36:09 PM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: SteveMcKing
Channeling some leftist thoughts here:

How many homes for the homeless Ward 9 Katrina victims would $207 million buy?

How many body armor kits for the soldiers would $207 million buy?

How many flu shots for the elderly and infirmed would $207 million buy?

How many college scholarships for impoverished inner city school kids would $207 million buy?

10 posted on 10/26/2005 9:36:26 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Neither Hollywood -- or anyone else -- spends that kind of money without expecting to see a hefty return on investment. KK is the perfect "vehicle" for a global market.


11 posted on 10/26/2005 9:38:46 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SteveMcKing
I've heard lots of special-effects fans rave about how they can't wait to see the movie. I loved Jackson's LOTR approach, but a remake of King Kong doesn't interest me at all. I love the 1933 original. The originality of that movie is what is impressive. The 1933 audiences, seeing a movie with (for then) convincing special effects of a giant ape and dinosaurs, and the ape climbing the recently finished Empire State Building with a hot gal in his hand must've blown their minds.

The remake can only impress us with its digital ingenuity (which includes even the look and time period of the original), but these days, digital technology can pretty much recreate anything, so it's hard to be impressed with special effects we now pretty much take for granted. I'd rather Jackson had done something original with the budget and the technology.

12 posted on 10/26/2005 9:39:42 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Go Astros! Err...wait'l next year....err....whatever.....)
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To: Restorer

PJ has wanted to do King Kong since before he did LOTR, so this has been on his plate for a long time.


13 posted on 10/26/2005 9:40:12 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
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To: clee1

How many remakes do they expect to do?

Oh, they are making Invasion of the Body Snatchers for the THIRD time.


14 posted on 10/26/2005 9:40:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Ostlandr

It was a book before it was a movie, but the book was an adaptation of the movie's script.

My main concern is the length. Three hours seems a tad long for such a thin story. I don't like Jack Black either, but I suppose I can overlook it.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 9:40:52 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: SteveMcKing

Geesh, I wish him luck -- but I have no plans on seeing any movies in theaters anymore. With the DVD release cycles I can happily wait the 8-9 months this thing will take to get into my DVD rental queue. And then if it's really good I will purchase it.

I am not spending $9 a ticket to see it in theater. If my wife and I go out to see it it would cost as much as the DVD! If we had two kids who wanted to see it (we have a 11 month old and one on the way) it would cost us about $30! Then add popcorn, drinks, etc.. and you are on the way to $45. No wonder movies don't make $$$ anymore (besides their craptacular content).


16 posted on 10/26/2005 9:41:21 PM PDT by rom
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To: Ostlandr

I hope it rocks!


17 posted on 10/26/2005 9:42:26 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: FreedomCalls

It's time we levy a 'windfall profits" tax on the obscene profits of Big Entertainment. The way they keep raising ticket prices, with the peak of the moviegoing season coming on- families are going to suffer. We use half the money to pay for hurricane relief, and the other half to make movie tickets more affordable for working families.
(Hey, if it's good for the oil industry. . .)


18 posted on 10/26/2005 9:42:30 PM PDT by Ostlandr ("Billions down the drain, and we ain't plugged it yet." - Federal Government motto)
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To: FreedomCalls
How many homes for the homeless Ward 9 Katrina victims would $207 million buy?
How many body armor kits for the soldiers would $207 million buy?
How many flu shots for the elderly and infirmed would $207 million buy?
How many college scholarships for impoverished inner city school kids would $207 million buy?

SOMEONE ELSE should pay for all of that! (As in, taxpayers.)

This is a monkey movie we are talking about... there's nothing wrong with investing in complete stupidity, right?

19 posted on 10/26/2005 9:42:48 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Ostlandr

Its like in the original movie as its set in the 1920's/30's. At least its not your typical hollyweird movie where they bash america for 2 hours.

Peter Jackson's next project is he's acting as executive producer for the Halo movie. Based off the Xbox video game.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 9:46:02 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: JennysCool

They will keep making King Kong until they have another idea. Ditto Frankenstien. Ditto Dracula. Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.


21 posted on 10/26/2005 9:47:48 PM PDT by hdstmf (too)
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To: rom
I am not spending $9 a ticket to see it in theater. If my wife and I go out to see it it would cost as much as the DVD! If we had two kids who wanted to see it (we have a 11 month old and one on the way) it would cost us about $30! Then add popcorn, drinks, etc.. and you are on the way to $45. No wonder movies don't make $$$ anymore (besides their craptacular content).

Not to mention the convenience of pausing for breaks and replaying words you just didn't make out.

22 posted on 10/26/2005 9:48:24 PM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: SteveMcKing; All
Here is the video game

Peter Jackson's King Kong

23 posted on 10/26/2005 9:50:12 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: JennysCool
I always thought the original 1933 King Kong was the first "blockbuster" picture. Some of the stuff in that film was ahead of its time.


24 posted on 10/26/2005 9:51:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: SteveMcKing
Hollywood blows $207 million on gorilla movie

Just about sums it up, doesn't it.

Apologies to Peter Jackson for LoTR, though.

Full Disclosure: And Wallace and Gromit, The Incredibles, and one or two others.

Cheers!

25 posted on 10/26/2005 9:52:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Conservative Firster

And here's another license...

Peter Jackson's "King Kong" Inspires Toys

HONG KONG, Sept. 9, 2004 - Playmates Holdings Limited announced today that its US based subsidiary, Playmates Toys Inc., has been appointed as the master toy licensee under the terms of a worldwide licensing agreement with Universal Studios Consumer Products Group for Universal Pictures' December 2005 release, "King Kong," from three-time Academy Award(R) winner Peter Jackson ("The Lord of the Rings" trilogy).
Playmates Toys will create a line of intricately detailed action figures and accessories with exceptional sculpting and innovative special features. The products will capture the fearsome power of King Kong and his adversaries and will enable kids and collectors to recreate epic battles on the mysterious Skull Island


26 posted on 10/26/2005 9:53:22 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
Its like in the original movie as its set in the 1920's/30's.

I thought the trailer for the new King Kong was spectacular. The movie is set in the early 30s and it has a colorized feel of the original one.

Now the 1976 King Kong with Jeff Bridges, you couldn't pay me to watch that crap.

27 posted on 10/26/2005 9:54:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Rastus

According to the web, the novel came out in '32. The movie was released in '33. I recall it being a rather epic novel in the spirit of Edgar Rice Burroughs. Denham in the novel alternates between an Indiana Jones type hero and a Captain Ahab type figure (in his obsession to capture Kong.)
Even if it was a novelization of the script, it was well done.
Yeah, three hours is long. Perhaps better to release a tightly edited version for the big screen, and save the extras for the Special Edition DVD.


28 posted on 10/26/2005 9:54:51 PM PDT by Ostlandr ("Billions down the drain, and we ain't plugged it yet." - Federal Government motto)
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To: rom

Kingdom of Heaven is worth renting. I don't like how they made the arabs seem superior, but it was worth watching.

But, avoid Robots. Even Robin Williams couldn't save that snoozefest.


29 posted on 10/26/2005 9:56:15 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! Can I put my blog address as my tag? http://trss.blogspot.com/)
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To: SteveMcKing

I think with DVD sales they could break a little better than even, but I can see it doing great business in this market.
I think people are not going to the movies as much and the TV scripts have been better on the new shows.


30 posted on 10/26/2005 9:58:13 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

People will go to the theaters to see a "spectacle" type movie on the big screen, like Titanic or LOTR. If teens like it, they'll go three or four times without blinking.


31 posted on 10/26/2005 10:01:27 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SteveMcKing
Decadence.

What on earth are you talking about?

Movies cost what they cost, and they either make money or they don't, representing a risk only for those who have freely invested their money in the film. How is that decadent?

Particularly when we're talking about the director of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which are three of the most conservative films ever made.

32 posted on 10/26/2005 10:02:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: Sam the Sham

33 posted on 10/26/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: durasell
Problem is that this is a remake and despite the job they do, it is a dead ending.

I could possibly go during a matinee.
I have no great interest in seeing this though.
34 posted on 10/26/2005 10:06:02 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I'm not all that hyped about it, either. But then again, I wasn't expecting much from The Aviator and it turned out to be a good movie.


35 posted on 10/26/2005 10:07:43 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SteveMcKing

Now that they have done the re-make of King Kong, does it mean that they will do a remake of Gone With the Wind?


36 posted on 10/26/2005 10:24:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: denydenydeny

What's this picture supposed to mean?

Fay Wray's altar scene is like the most erotic thing ever!

The way she writhes around ... and those screams!

... did I say that out loud ?


37 posted on 10/26/2005 10:25:36 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SteveMcKing
When are they going to do a remake of Magilla Gorilla?

"Oh gee!"

38 posted on 10/26/2005 10:37:40 PM PDT by WillamShakespeare (Who is John Kerry?)
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To: A CA Guy
Problem is that this is a remake and despite the job they do, it is a dead ending.

It seems a little different, though, as Jackson is a lifelong King Kong fan and is doing a "loving tribute" style remake. That's better than, "Hey, put a movie title on the dart board and we'll remake whichever one we hit." The Fog, for instance.

I didn't absolutely love the LOTR movies, but Jackson earned the benefit of the doubt with them.
39 posted on 10/26/2005 10:56:02 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: A CA Guy

Oh, yeah. Meant to add: and, it's pretty much guaranteed to be better than the '70s turd. The teaser trailer alone is more entertaining than that monstrosity.


40 posted on 10/26/2005 10:57:05 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: PAR35

Actually this is now a remake of a remake. They did a remake with Jessica Lange and Jeff Bridges in the `70`s. All those `70`s movies are being remade not to mention TV shows, they are also remaking Superman. Hollywood just will not take chances today... I mean just imagine how many undiscovered scripts are floating around out there, there must be tons of talented script writers that have stuff that would blow peoples minds, but noooooo...Hollywood has to do remakes of every freggin` lame-o TV show from the past 50 years as well as every movie.

I remember in the `70`s it seemed that every other week another mind blowing movie would come out of nowhere, stuff that nobody unexpected like Taxi Driver, Deer Hunter, Godfather, Deliverance, Star Wars, Rocky, Alien, Cuckoo's Nest, Jaws, French connection, Pappilon, Exorcist, The Sting, Dog day afternoon, young Frankenstein, Blazing saddles, etc etc..not so today. Today we can expect all those movies to be remade, that`s if they can get a remake done of Gilligans Island first.


41 posted on 10/26/2005 11:00:04 PM PDT by WillamShakespeare (Who is John Kerry?)
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To: Ostlandr
It's time we levy a 'windfall profits" tax on the obscene profits of Big Entertainment.

LOL!! good one Ostlandr.

Well I'm sure Hillary has as one her targets of those who "things must be taken away for the common good" are the well paid Hollywood elite. Yea like that will ever happen... not.

42 posted on 10/26/2005 11:01:04 PM PDT by A message ( Being a "Progressive" means never having to be truthful to yourself)
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To: JennysCool

43 posted on 10/26/2005 11:03:05 PM PDT by martin_fierro (My other car is a Tagline.)
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To: denydenydeny

Man, she sure is easy on the eyes.


44 posted on 10/26/2005 11:03:31 PM PDT by martin_fierro (My other car is a Tagline.)
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To: durasell

The Aviator was better than I expected as well.


45 posted on 10/26/2005 11:08:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: martin_fierro

Would that be a Samuel L. Bronkowitz production, do you think?


46 posted on 10/26/2005 11:12:15 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: martin_fierro

Is that sarcasm? 'Cause, that ain't the most flattering pitcher.


47 posted on 10/26/2005 11:13:05 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Rastus

I think the only thing the movie will have going for it will be the use of the newest special effects to make a more realistic monkey.
The monkey is found on an island, there is a girl in distress and the monkey will die in a great fall more than likely.
I don't think it will be much different, so I will wait and here if it is worth going to or waiting for basic cable.


48 posted on 10/26/2005 11:14:16 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Rastus

Yeah, the special effects would be all that is going to make the movie I think.

For two hundred million they should have grown a real giant monkey IMO.


49 posted on 10/26/2005 11:15:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
For two hundred million they should have grown a real giant monkey IMO.

They should have just asked Michael Moore to let his body hair grow out for a while.
50 posted on 10/26/2005 11:20:03 PM PDT by Rastus
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