Posted on 10/27/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by Shade2
Your comment "things could have gotten better for the blacks without the civil rights movement" is confusing to me. I do not follow.
What would have driven the change? It's also interesting that you say that they "could" have gotten better, not "would" have gotten better.
I don't disagree that communism was not the answer for the American civil rights movement, but neither was doing nothing the answer.
You look at the civil rights movement differently than I do. I see it more as a means to ensure that ALL American citizens had the same rights, the same protections under the law. You and I both know that separate but equal wasn't.
Can you be more specific as to which of the civil rights the movement was seeking for blacks were wrong? I don't have your frame of reference.
Ironically, it reminds me of Jesse Jackson's involvement with the Terri Shiviao case. Jackson will always be a hustler- but for once he was right to stand up for someone who was having their rights denied them.
Almost everyone is right once or twice. Good thing reasonable citizens didn't fight to undermined civil rights just because a few Communists supported it.
Post some facts then, instead of rumor-mongering and gossiping.
From the NYTIMZE webpages:
".... Mrs. Parks was very active in the Montgomery N.A.A.C.P. chapter, and she and her husband, Raymond, a barber, had taken part in voter registration drives.
At the urging of an employer, Virginia Durr, Mrs. Parks had attended an interracial leadership conference at the Highlander Folk School in Monteagle, Tenn. , in the summer of 1955. There, she later said, she "gained strength to persevere in my work for freedom, not just for blacks but for all oppressed people."
But as she rushed home from her job as a seamstress at a department store on Dec. 1, 1955, the last thing on her mind was becoming "the mother of the civil rights movement," as many would later describe her. She had to send out notices of the N.A.A.C.P.'s coming election of officers. And she had to prepare for the workshop that she was running for teenagers that weekend."
Sounds like she and the NAACP knew the value of taking good advantage from a knowned pracitice.
Not a "setup" but not an "innocent babe in the woods" either.
Just for the record.
I just finished rereading Rosa Parks' autobiography. She was the secretary of the local NAACP. She was the second woman to be arrested for refusing to yield her seat to a white person but she was thought to be the perfect test case to overthrow bus segregation laws (she was a quiet, church-going seamstress).
I personally don't see what difference it makes. The laws were unconstitutional and needed to be overturned. RIP Rosa!
"Almost everyone is right once or twice. Good thing reasonable citizens didn't fight to undermined civil rights just because a few Communists supported it."
Unfortunately some did fight on those grounds.
But they lost and in the end that is what matters.
Equality is for ALL people.
Our government has one job- and that is to protect the rights of our citizens. They weren't doing their job then and someone needed to point that out in a dramatic way.
As an ex-smoker, I understand your point about smokers being treated as second class citizens...but on a bus I can understand not allowing people to smoke.
FWIW- I think your second post here illustrates your point better than your first did.
To most people who don't smoke, smoking is a physical irritant. People who smoke in public and in close proximity to others actually impose their habit on others. Referring to not desiring to inhale someone's smoke as being prejudiced is a reach. I've left smoke filled rooms feeling sick plenty of times. I think that this is a good case for personal responsibility. You make the decision to unnecessarily addict yourself to an irritating, harmful substance, then accept the responsibility of not being able to feed you addiction whenever you please. Smoking is a behavior, and being prejudiced against a behavior is quite the norm and quite different from being prejudiced against a race. And from an economic standpoint, with less people smoking now than in the past, allowing smoking on buses may drive most of the customers away.
"And it continues to fight it by devising new schemes restoring racial preferences in public universities."
Yup! Liberals LOVE to pretend not to be racists but their very actions scream that they ARE!
Try reading the other posts on this thread and admit the whole thing was a set-up, instead of calling me names and making yourself look stupid.
bttt
mark
Yes, an interesting article.
makes you see why that voting block in new orleans was stranded.
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