Skip to comments.Expulsion For Gay Comments? Duquesne Student Resists Punishment
Posted on 10/27/2005 1:31:05 PM PDT by Coleus
Ryan Miner, 19, of Hagerstown, Md., was sanctioned by Duquesne after posting his view in The Facebook, an online directory that is not related to the university.
Miner opposed an effort by other students to form a Gay-Straight Alliance group, an issue that is still being debated by the university.
"I believe as a student that my First Amendment rights in the Constitution were subverted and attacked," said Miner.
After Miner's comments appeared online, some students complained to the school.
After a hearing, the Office of Judicial Affairs found Miner guilty of violating the University Code, which prohibits harassment or discrimination based on sexual orientation, among other groups.
A 10-page paper was assigned as punishment. Miner said he refuses to write it and will file an appeal.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstance can they be approved.
I don't get it
He'll lose, universities always win theese sorts of fights.
He could have had fun with the paper. I mean if you're getting the boot anyway.
This is ridiculous.... he could have called them much worse...not allowed here on FR
"Subhuman" was a poor choice of words. To say that the conduct is wrong or disordered is fine, but "subhuman" introduces all kinds of Nazi implications, or NARAL implications if you prefer. No class of human beings is subhuman, unless you use the term loosely, which is dangerous.
That said, he is surely within his first-amendment rights. No university, still less a Catholic university, should handle the matter this way.
Homosexuality, though personally abhorent to me (and to God) is NOT "subhuman".
No other animal species that I know of exhibits this type of deviant behavior, unless you count those Sweedish penguins - one of whom eventually went straight.
Since it's a private university, I don't see how the First Amendment applies, but on the other hand, I think that after you've spent 2 years of your academic career at a University, it's a bit below the belt for them to kick you out because they don't like something you said. If I were his lawyer, I'd be demanding a copy of the written policy that clearly spelled that out at the time he accepted admission, and in the absence of them being able to produce it, I would sue to get all of the costs of going to college for the last two years from them, as well as the value of the lost time.
Sub-human? It's sub-simian.
Catholic Colleges should not have or think of having
Gay-Straight Alliance groups.
On any campus in America, the free exercise of the first amendment and hearing both sides of the issue is paramount.
There was just a FR thread posted about a prof. saying that white people should be killed, noting happened to him, and that other idiot in Colorado about the USA deserved to be blown up on 9.11, he's still there.
On paper, the RCC (including all catholic colleges) is supposed to be "against" homosexuality and in favor of God's moral and natural law.
This student made his comments on a non-university web site.
Ref my previous post...
FIRE = Foundation for Individual Rights in Education...
Copy & Paste link...
I'm with you. Turn it into a contract dispute. Futhermore it might be relevant to show how the school is abusing the label of Catholic.
He should re-read the Constitution.
"He'll lose, universities always win theese sorts of fights."
Only because they have more resources for the legal fight.
With the right legal help he has a very good chance at winning. His activity he is being punished for was not related to or controlled by the university so their legal right to sanction him probably is probably non-existant.
Charles J. Dougherty, Ph.D.
Duquesne University President
600 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15282
Phone: (412) 396-6000
Toll Free: (800) 456-0590
Actually many of them do.
I don't get it
This is about the forth time I've read this crap in a thread today. If you don't have something intelligent to add, then STFU!!!!!!!!
Name one male animal which inserts its organ into the anus of another male.
That's what I thought.
Don't make ridiculous and indefensible comments.
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