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Upcoming changes to the forum

Posted on 10/27/2005 5:16:18 PM PDT by John Robinson

Edited on 10/30/2005 2:01:52 PM PST by John Robinson. [history]

I'm working on the following changes to the forum software:

Thread URLs will change.

Old links will be redirected to maintain bookmark compatibility. The new links will be more descriptive, offering the date of the article and perhaps a meaningful filename.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1510575/posts doesn't say much.
http://www.freerepublic.com/2005/10/27/freeptoon/p1 says so much more.

Time zone handled by browser.

The timestamps on threads will change to your computer's local time zone, but only if you have JavaScript enabled. Otherwise they will be in US/Eastern. Your FR preference will be ignored (and will be phased out in favor of browser-side time zone handling.) The beauty of this arrangement is that as long as your computer displays the time in your time zone, FR will "Do The Right Thing"(tm).

Fixed number of comments.

No more than 50 comments per page will be shown. Your preference of 20, 100 or 250 is going to be ignored. I know this is a bit of a heartbreak for some, I understand it is a sacrifice. There are very good and very strong reasons this is changing.

Article text.

Only the first page of the thread will show the article text, and will always show the article text. Subsequent pages will only ever show a summary. In the future, a little browser-side magic could make the article text appear when you click a link.

All for one and one for all.

Everybody logged in or not will see the same content and links. For example, in the existing software, if you're not logged in you won't see the "Report Abuse" links. This check is going away, everybody will now see the same row of buttons.

In exchange, we'll have cache-friendly forum pages. This means:

Update 10/30/05

I've expanded the scope of changes. I'm cleaning up the information we present to search engines like Google and Yahoo. Our site will be more useful to third-party search engines and thus more useful to you. For the most part this will not directly impact our human visitors. There will be changes that could break bookmarks of certain types of pages, but the chances such bookmarks have ever been made are slim.


TOPICS: Announcements; Technical
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; faq; fr; idontgetit; lexicon; youdaman
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; Mo1; PhiKapMom; Dog Gone

Upcoming changes in case you missed them.


41 posted on 10/27/2005 5:46:56 PM PDT by deport
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To: John Robinson

John,
First off, Thankyou. Thank you for this forum. There is so much information, political or otherwise, that is posted by my fellow FReepers.
My question / request for improvement to Fr woulod be this: Could there be a button labelled "e-mail" where you could easily e-mail a particular thread to a friend who is not a member of FR?
Currently, it is necessary to create a Word document and attach it to an e-mail.
There is so much immenently shareable information posted here. Perhaps we shoul dhave an easier way to quickly send it on its way to those who could use it.
Just a thought. Take care. And again, Thank You


42 posted on 10/27/2005 5:48:22 PM PDT by RoadGumby (Let your fear be as a monkey, hiding in a pinata)
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To: antaresequity

For what purpose, just curious? With the change to fixed-size pages, we'll probably move away from the comment # (first 1-50, 51-100, 101-150, 151-200 ... 3,051-3,074 next last) style pagination to a page # pagination.


43 posted on 10/27/2005 5:48:43 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: bigsigh
does this mean I'm off probation?

As long as you don't post ANYTHING to the nascar threads under my screen name...

Even if it is relevant to nascar info.

44 posted on 10/27/2005 5:49:01 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: John Robinson

Uh oh, my computer time clock is haywire, sometimes it thinks it is 2002.

Right now it 5:58 am.

I have replaced the battery.


45 posted on 10/27/2005 5:49:13 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: John Robinson
Please please please, let us have at least 100 replies per page, 50 is just too darn short, and even 250 can be a PIA on a busy thread. Man (if not most of us) have broad band these days. Also, even when I didn't, I had no problems loading up 500 reply plus threads under the old (good old days) software. I realize that you probably want to reduce overhead on your side, maybe you could just auto throttle when it gets too busy? I know in the past that you have shortened page length on a needed basis, maybe you could just have the forum do it automatically when you hit a certain threshold?

I think you might find that when you shorten the threads per page, that there will be many more page requests going on. Or maybe you could just offer two sizes to reduce the number of cached pages, but make one short and the other longer (like at least 100 replies). Please think about it.
46 posted on 10/27/2005 5:49:58 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: John Robinson

Hey John! I almost understood this! That is pretty good for me! LOL


47 posted on 10/27/2005 5:51:33 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: JMack

As soon as I can sort it out, I'd like to enable posters to be able to update their own articles (and comments for that matter.) And, at least for articles, to allow a select list of other people to be able to edit the article (i.e. some type of article with several authors.)


48 posted on 10/27/2005 5:51:34 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Woodman
Please please please, let us have at least 100 replies per page,

I concur. 50 is just too short. On lengthy thread, to save to disk, the short pages are a nightmare.
49 posted on 10/27/2005 5:52:57 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: deport

I didn't see it listed but an EDIT button would be nice to correct errors or tempers.


50 posted on 10/27/2005 5:54:08 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: John Robinson
The timestamps on threads will change to your computer's local time zone, but only if you have JavaScript enabled.

Can anyone tell me how to be sure my JavaScript is enabled in MS IE6?

51 posted on 10/27/2005 5:55:20 PM PDT by RJL
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To: RoadGumby

I've considered something along those lines.


52 posted on 10/27/2005 5:55:32 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson
For example, in the existing software, if you're not logged in you won't see the "Report Abuse" links. This check is going away, everybody will now see the same row of buttons.

Does this mean that visitors to FR will be able to file complaints on posts?

53 posted on 10/27/2005 5:55:42 PM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: Incorrigible
I usually do to but I find myself pausing at rdb3's logo on long threads.

Really? That was nice of you. Therefore, allow me to blow is up so you can get a closer look:


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

54 posted on 10/27/2005 5:56:18 PM PDT by rdb3 (Does this wheelchair make me look fat?)
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To: razorback-bert

Your clock shouldn't matter, as long as your time zone is correctly configured.


55 posted on 10/27/2005 5:56:35 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson; Constitution Day; TheBigB; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; Owl_Eagle; Petronski; ...

Thanks, John!

Pinging "the guys" on an FYI.


56 posted on 10/27/2005 5:57:00 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Why is it you never hear "gender equality" mentioned in a divorce court?)
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To: John Robinson

Thanks for the update...much appreciated!!


57 posted on 10/27/2005 5:58:29 PM PDT by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: John Robinson
as always, a first class leadership response that will be copied by others....

Bravo

58 posted on 10/27/2005 5:58:38 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Angelwood; BillF; Christopher Lincoln; concretebob; Coop; Doctor Raoul; Dustin10thMountain; ...

Thanks, John Robinson ping!


59 posted on 10/27/2005 5:58:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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To: John Robinson

Thanks, but I was hoping you would tell me to replace my gizmo with a new thingabob.


60 posted on 10/27/2005 5:58:53 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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