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Sex-Selection by Embryo Screening Approved for US Trial
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 28 October 2005

Posted on 10/27/2005 7:20:09 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

HOUSTON, October 27, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An experiment has been underway for a month in a Houston Texas where parents are permitted to ask scientists for a child with the gender of their choice. The procedure involves preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) which is able to detect the sex of embryos created by in vitro fertilization (IVF) prior to their implantation in their mothers' wombs.

While sex selection via PGD has been allowed in some cases where sex-linked diseases are concerned, the clinical trial is seeking to gage the impact of sex selection at the whim of the parents. According to the journal Nature, the researchers, led by Sandra Carlson of Baylor College of Medicine, will be studying the long term health effect to the children born after PGD and also the social impact on the families.

The fundamental ethical problems behind PGD lie in its origin of IVF which creates children outside of the loving union of a man and a woman. Moreover, the lives of the embryonic children conceived by the IVF procedure are under severe threat since the latest statistics have revealed that over 85% of embryos transferred in the procedure die in the process.

However, with those arguments ignored, and IVF accepted as a moral procedure in most of the world, researchers are left looking at PGD as perhaps problematic since it may cause sex discrimination as is the case in China and India. Both countries have seen a discrepancy in the ratio of boys and girls born since one-child policies and discrimination against female children have resulted in abortion being used to eliminate female babies in utero.

PGD sex selection is banned in Canada, Britain and several other countries for that reason. However the researchers are suggesting sex selection may be ethical for 'family balancing'. The researchers have said they will only accept couples into the trial who have a child and want another child of the opposite sex.

PGD is already routinely used to screen out embryos with genetic defects. Thus those embryonic children with disabilities are disposed of (read killed) prior to being given a chance to be born, a fact which has been of serious concern to groups advocating for the disabled.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bioethics; embryo; frankenstein; ivf; life; science; sexselection; slipperyslope
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Further down the slippery slope we slide...
1 posted on 10/27/2005 7:20:10 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

Would that ever put the breaks on population growth - there would be a 4/1 male/female ratio within a generation.


2 posted on 10/27/2005 7:21:50 PM PDT by podkane
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To: Aussie Dasher

I guess a whole series of hurricanes didn't convey the message clearly.


3 posted on 10/27/2005 7:25:17 PM PDT by pbear8 (Sorry Harriet, best wishes for the future)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wow! I can only say there is much in this world that I do not recognize anymore.


4 posted on 10/27/2005 7:38:19 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

It is a brave new world. :-(


5 posted on 10/27/2005 7:42:48 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Ohioan from Florida

You'll appreciate this. As a homeschooling mom, I share current events with our sons every day. One of them commented today, "Mom, it's like every day there is something that is worse and worse...like getting hit with another cannonball every morning." We've started praying about these types of stories.

God help us.


6 posted on 10/27/2005 7:43:45 PM PDT by andie74 (Adoption is proof that God answers prayers.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Frankenstein medicine...


7 posted on 10/27/2005 7:44:16 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: andie74
"God help us."

Amen!

8 posted on 10/27/2005 7:48:22 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What are these people thinking? Do they not realize that God has the power over life and death? Whatever fits their convenient and happy lifestyles I guess.


9 posted on 10/27/2005 7:55:51 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
in its origin of IVF which creates children outside of the loving union of a man and a woman

Well y'all can think what you want about the article and the concepts therein, but this statement is outrageously ignorant and offensive to those MARRIED couples who have been blessed with children through IVF. Why the assumption that the children conceived aren't out of "the loving union of a man and a woman"?

As far as gender selection, the article did say that it's reserved for couples who already have a child of the other gender. So why all the chicken littles around here?

The technology, like ANY technology, can be used for great good. And like ANY technology, it can be abused. That doesn't mean to eradicate technology, like the Amish...

10 posted on 10/27/2005 7:58:08 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Gerish
Do they not realize that God has the power over life and death?

He does. And in His absolute authority, He has permitted that man can create life outside of the normal reproductive means, for those who are unable. Is that a problem for you?

11 posted on 10/27/2005 7:59:16 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Aussie Dasher
I oppose sex-selection. Even more if they abort for sex-selection. Hopefully, we'll squish this soon.

Love the child you're given and be glad you have a healthy one.

If you can't love a child because of their sex then you probably shouldn't be a parent.
12 posted on 10/27/2005 8:08:46 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: gamarob1

Absolutely. Just because MAN has the technology or power to do something does not mean it is the right thing to do.


13 posted on 10/27/2005 8:09:21 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: Gerish

So you're blindly desiring to end IVF altogether, or are you referring to gender selection?


14 posted on 10/27/2005 8:09:59 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

Even after having spent a gruelling 18 months and nearly $30,000 on an adoption, I still feel glad we did not go the IVF route.

There are hundreds of thousands of children in the world who desparately need families, and you don't have to create a batch of microscopic snowflake offspring to poke, prod, sort, and discard in order to choose whether you want a boy or a girl.


15 posted on 10/27/2005 8:10:03 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: gamarob1

Both, and no I am not blind.


16 posted on 10/27/2005 8:11:15 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: gamarob1
Look at the kinds of societies you end up with when girl children are not equally valued.

I present the Middle East and the Muslim nations. And I'll toss in China to boot.

There is your Brave New World.

No thanks.
17 posted on 10/27/2005 8:11:29 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Gerish
Well fortunately your opinion won't reign. And don't think that God agrees with your opinion either. Many Christian couples I know have been blessed with children through IVF. And that from God

If you can't see that then you are self-righteously blind

18 posted on 10/27/2005 8:12:30 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: George W. Bush

I never said I don't value girl children. I said that the technology isn't necessarily evil in and of itself. It can be used for evil, but the technology itself isn't. For couples that want another gender from the one they already have, there isn't a problem. This isn't China


19 posted on 10/27/2005 8:13:54 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

Yawn.......do they perceive their children as a gift from God or a gift from their doctor?


20 posted on 10/27/2005 8:14:32 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: mvpel
Even after having spent a gruelling 18 months and nearly $30,000 on an adoption, I still feel glad we did not go the IVF route.

That's wonderful. The expenses involved are nothing short of robbery. It is not in the interests of children to make it so difficult for loving families to adopt them. It impoverishes the family that is expected to provide for them.

I hope the GOP takes some action on this issue to promote adoption. For that matter, I'd possibly even consider some subsidy for it. (Dang, that hurts.) But given the money they've squandered, this is something I wouldn't complain about.
21 posted on 10/27/2005 8:15:10 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Gerish
Do you perceive that anyone who has had ANY surgery to save their lives, don't ask such a STUPID question? Do the doctors get the credit for saving the person's life, or does God?

This is no different.

Don't speak in the name of the Lord with such hate for fellow man and Christians.

Your ignorance is boring, thanks for the yawn, hypocrite.

22 posted on 10/27/2005 8:16:34 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: George W. Bush
I hope the GOP takes some action on this issue to promote adoption.

They won't. Widows and orphans aren't a priority of the GOP, sadly...

23 posted on 10/27/2005 8:19:15 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

God Bless you too!


24 posted on 10/27/2005 8:19:43 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: gamarob1
I said that the technology isn't necessarily evil in and of itself.

Perhaps I was hasty. And I'll say that I have a sister, a cousin, and an aunt whose hearts were truly set on having a daughter after a few sons.

And I still say no.

Leave the natural balance of births at 102 males to 100 females. It helps account for differences in males turning homosexual or offing themselves with risky behavior. And the population stays pretty balanced even if women outnumber men because we die a little earlier.

Like abortion, just because a choice is possible doesn't mean people will use it wisely.
25 posted on 10/27/2005 8:19:51 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Aussie Dasher

Cool! Pretty soon we'll be just like China! < /sarcasm >


26 posted on 10/27/2005 8:19:56 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: Gerish

Doesn't mean much to say, after you've basically condemned every Christian who has had IVF, hypocrite...


27 posted on 10/27/2005 8:20:19 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Aussie Dasher

"The procedure involves preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) which is able to detect the sex of embryos created by in vitro fertilization (IVF) prior to their implantation in their mothers' wombs." But But But ... you mean these 'undifferentiated cells' have already differentiated to express male or female direction in their lifetime? Why you could knock me down with a feather! You mean the leftist craptittutes have been lying to US? ... (/sarcasm) The death and exploitation of the youngest humans industry is completely founded on lies, lies the liberal public are willing to keep swallowing in order to indulge their magic thinking.


28 posted on 10/27/2005 8:20:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
All of you, RELAX.

PGD is often done in IVF and it is helping couples have children. Testing the embryo, and now even the egg before conception is becoming a fantastic way to predict the potential birth of a much-wanted baby! They can't help but know the sex of an embryo when it is used, of course.

This is not really such a Brave New World scenario. They are seeing what life will be like for families who have children on one gender and would like to try parenting the other kind, but wouldn't like to go it naturally and wait for the 8th child. I don't have a problem with it. As long as they donate any unwanted embryos to the infertile couples waiting on long lists to adopt embryos.

29 posted on 10/27/2005 8:21:11 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: George W. Bush

This orginally started with parent's trying to avoid sex linked diseases. I have no problem with that, but when it goes to family "balancing" and stuff it gets a little iffy. But then it is probably cheaper in the long run for a family than those who choose to have 5 + children hoping to finally get a boy. When I see that I always wonder if the father takes the saying that "baby girls are God's punishment for the father's teen years" to heart.


30 posted on 10/27/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: George W. Bush

Well on this issue, it's not the same as abortion. If they want a girl after so many boys, I don't see anything wrong with that.


31 posted on 10/27/2005 8:21:31 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Aussie Dasher

**Further down the slippery slope we slide...**

Absolutely!

Lord have mercy!

Christ have mercy!

Lord have mercy!


32 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: gamarob1

Yawn again......


33 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:25 PM PDT by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: Yaelle

Exactly. Thank you for voicing words of sanity. I thought I was alone here...


34 posted on 10/27/2005 8:22:32 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1
the lives of the embryonic children conceived by the IVF procedure are under severe threat since the latest statistics have revealed that over 85% of embryos transferred in the procedure die in the process.

And you think this is ANY technology? Does ANY technology murder so many human beings?

35 posted on 10/27/2005 8:23:09 PM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: Aussie Dasher

This is all indicative of selfishness on the part of mankind. Sadly, men and women do not seem to be able to accept the will of God.

May they be forgiven for these connivings.


36 posted on 10/27/2005 8:23:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Bad bad bad bad bad idea! Very bad.


37 posted on 10/27/2005 8:24:22 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: gamarob1

You spittled out, "He (GOD) has permitted that man can ...", and then you infer that 'can' means should. Do you understand that murder is something man 'can' do but God frowns upon? No, you can't see that clearly ... those who have eyes to see and all that. Eat you chicken little meals now.


38 posted on 10/27/2005 8:24:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MSSC6644
But that's what they've chosen to do. They don't have to. And it's not an excuse to eliminate technology that has blessed so many.

If they donate the embryos, then that would be the ideal way to go. If they don't, well, I can't stop people from killing, smoking, having unsafe sex, etc... It's a sinful world, haven't you realized that yet?

39 posted on 10/27/2005 8:24:52 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Salvation

The will of God is that such technology exists to help the infertile. Can you accept the will of God?


40 posted on 10/27/2005 8:25:22 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Coleus; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback

Ping!


41 posted on 10/27/2005 8:26:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aussie Dasher

""85% of embryos transferred in the procedure die in the process.""

""However, with those [above argument] ignored, and IVF accepted as a moral procedure in most of the world,""


42 posted on 10/27/2005 8:28:15 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell
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To: MHGinTN
IVF blesses Christians too, the ones that are infertile. Just because some use IVF to murder, doesn't make the technology evil

Go, run now and throw away all your kitchen knives!!!! People use them to kill!!!!

43 posted on 10/27/2005 8:28:22 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: George W. Bush

There's a $10,360 tax credit for adoption, and a $5,000 tax-deductable subsidy available through an employer via some corporate tax incentives. Other adoption expenses are not tax deductable, though, so the remaining $15,000+ we'll be paying with after-tax dollars.


44 posted on 10/27/2005 8:29:07 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

IVF has blessed countless millions, including Christians, who are infertile. Just because it can be used to murder, doesn't make the technology evil. Do you own a gun? They're used to murder, y'know. But we shouldn't go outlawing guns.


45 posted on 10/27/2005 8:29:22 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: Gerish

So what about a man who marries a woman who has her tubes tied during a previous marriage.. a marriage that didnt even end on her accord.

Should her husband only have to be someone who's had children or doesn't care about children?

Should that man select surgery for his wife that could endanger her?

Or do you think it would be ok with God after much prayer and thought that God would say it's ok to have a child this way.

Remember man can do great evil with technology.. but not all technology is used for evil.

Don't be blanket in all your statements. God is loving.. and he does command that we not all be as judgemental as you currently are.


46 posted on 10/27/2005 8:30:15 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

He can't help judging. God has sent him to judge. Oh wait, Jesus said, judge not, lest you be judged. I guess he doesn't really know the true heart of Jesus...


47 posted on 10/27/2005 8:31:00 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

My my, you do babble don'tchaknow. You appear quite learned in the lieberal art of twisting and dissembling (you even contradict yourself from sentence to sentence; astounding deceitful dexterity that). You won't be happy here at FR. We tend to be pro-life. Need an explanation of what that means?


48 posted on 10/27/2005 8:32:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm quite happy here at FR. I am pro-life. I am against abortion, and I am for IVF, which provides children for the infertile.

Care to write another adjective-filled dissertation?

49 posted on 10/27/2005 8:33:26 PM PDT by gamarob1
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To: gamarob1

Typicasl lieberal lickspittle, taking a sentence from Scripture out of context and twisting it to fit the lieberal way: "Oh wait, Jesus said, judge not, lest you be judged. I guess he doesn't really know the true heart of Jesus..." And you assume to know? Bwahahahahaha


50 posted on 10/27/2005 8:34:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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