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Time for Freeping - CNN poll on indictments
CNN ^ | 28 Oct 2005 | Bella

Posted on 10/28/2005 11:55:15 AM PDT by timsbella

Do you think indictments are warranted in the CIA leak probe?

GO FOR IT FREEPERS!

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80% in favour - we need to add our voices. All of them. Twice ;)
1 posted on 10/28/2005 11:55:16 AM PDT by timsbella
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To: timsbella

NO NO NO - don't vote; let the results show 99% then they cannot show the BS


2 posted on 10/28/2005 11:56:00 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: timsbella

Do you think indictments are warranted in the CIA leak probe?

Yes 80% 56947 votes

No 20% 13875 votes


3 posted on 10/28/2005 11:57:40 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: GunnyHartman

Free Scooter!! (then fire Fitzgerald)


4 posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (There's nothing sarcastic in this post. Sure there isn't. Not one bit.)
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To: timsbella

5 posted on 10/28/2005 11:59:03 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: SF Republican

Done


6 posted on 10/28/2005 11:59:12 AM PDT by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: timsbella

Note the picture CNN choose.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 11:59:22 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: GunnyHartman

Funny, I voted "no", and yet the count was the same as yours.


8 posted on 10/28/2005 11:59:39 AM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: timsbella

BUMP! Everyone vote YES. Let's get this to 99%.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 12:01:10 PM PDT by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: timsbella; All

Done.

C'mon Freepers!

Let's even up these numbers a bit.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:37 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: timsbella

I would prefer to know --- WHO wrote that law that made it illegal to lie when you are NOT under oath to begin with?

That would be the ones I would be considering charges for treasonous action for attempting to overthrow our Constitutional Republic.

Talk about unconstitutional and un-American!

The only other law that approaches this for audacity and, pardon me, dictatorial fascist laws, is the one that makes it a crime to run awat from the police after you commit a crime.

It all falls under "thought-crime" laws. You cannot control an honest lawful man, so therefore you must make all men unlawful so you can control them. (or words to that effect). The premise of communism and all other forms of tyranny.


11 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:21 PM PDT by soltice
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To: timsbella
Just Say, NO!...a resounding "NO" to LMSM's "Hillary (RED WITCH) Hunt"
12 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:30 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: timsbella

CNN: Yo Sukka...
This QuickVote is not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those Internet users who have chosen to participate. The results cannot be assumed to represent the opinions of Internet users in general, nor the public as a whole. The QuickVote sponsor is not responsible for content, functionality or the opinions expressed therein.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 12:04:37 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: SF Republican
NO NO NO - don't vote; let the results show 99% then they cannot show the BS

Just to repeat what you said.

14 posted on 10/28/2005 12:06:27 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: timsbella

Yes, indictments should be handed down. (for Wilson and his secret agent wife)


15 posted on 10/28/2005 12:06:48 PM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: WesternPacific

Secret Agent? My buns! Half the neighbourhood knew what she did for a living.

She probably sold her decoder ring at a garage sale.


16 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:26 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: timsbella

A poll is the truest form of democracy, the rule of fools by fools.


17 posted on 10/28/2005 12:11:22 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: timsbella

Do you think indictments are warranted in the CIA leak probe?

Yes 80% 59236 votes

No 20% 14403 votes

Total: 73639 votes


18 posted on 10/28/2005 12:12:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: timsbella
Corruption in government is undesirable no matter which party holds the White House.

But it is impossible to care about this "scandal" when the last administration held 900 or so FBI files on its political opponents in the White House -- each one of which constituted as single felony -- and NOBODY went to prison.

At that point I concluded that the American people are being cranked big time.
19 posted on 10/28/2005 12:12:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: timsbella

You'd be disappointed if I voted. If Libby lied under oath he deserves to be prosecuted. Just like BJC deserved it.


20 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:50 PM PDT by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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To: No Longer Free State

Yeah I concur. Much as it pains me to say it. We have to be perfect. If people are screwing up, they need to be fired. No tolerance of obstruction of justice -- that was what we were all saying about Clinton too.


22 posted on 10/28/2005 12:23:54 PM PDT by mhx
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To: timsbella
I do think that purjury, obstruction of justice, and lying to a Grand Jury should all be taken seriously and they are crimes. Almost everyone on Free Republic would have agreed a half-decade ago. Justice shouldn't be partisan and just because Bill Clinton got away with not only lying to a Grand Jury but also likely sexual harassment and rape (if not more, if you believe the worst conspiracy theories) does not mean we should excuse Republicans from purjury and so forth. Would we excuse a Bush or Cheney aid if they sexually harassed a woman or raped her, too, just because we think Bill Clinton got away with it? Two wrongs don't make a right and all that.

Please also note that this man will get his day in court and if he's innocent, hopefully he can prove it. If there is anyone we should be pointing fingers at, it's the mainstream media because they are the ones with the partisan double-standard.

23 posted on 10/28/2005 12:29:27 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: timsbella

What if I am in favor of indictments - for PLAME AND WILSON AND CIA OFFICERS!


24 posted on 10/28/2005 12:31:20 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: michaeljeremyjones
Dude, you're such a troll.

Poll seems pretty accurate to me--with upwards of 70,000 votes, its hard to argue that this is unrepresentative of at least a large section of the American Internet-reading population (at least the broad middle ground that reads CNN).

Which is exactly where they get their skewed information. I'm willing to bet that most of those who voted actually think Plame was an undercover agent.

What's with some FReepers trying to smear the reputation of Valerie Plame--is that a diversionary tactic?

LOL! Smear her reputation?!? LOL! An anti-war zealot who used her position in the CIA and her husband to attempt to discredit the administration she worked for? Hope I don't get a reputation like that.

What's with some folks minimizing the seriousness of a charge of perjury? Where were those thoughts when Clinton was in trouble for perjury?

Hey, if the guy is guilty, nail him. If the administration was playing with classified or semi-classified information for political purposes, that is pretty darn serious--even if we can only get them on charges of perjury. It is our national security, after all and I don't think that being in the administration gives rights to use our nation's info like that.

That's just it. There was no crime. Plame was not covert nor had she been for some time. She had a CIA parking permit on her car for crying out loud. What are your thoughts on the Sandy Berger incident. You know, stealing classified documents from the archives to cover up for Clintons screw-ups. Oh, yeah, guess that wasn't on CNN.

25 posted on 10/28/2005 12:32:39 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: timsbella

The funny thing about CNN.com polls. If you vote against their own slanted position, the vote doesn't even tally. I checked the totals both before and after voting, and the numbers didn't even change.


26 posted on 10/28/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TChris
THE NUMBERS AIN'T MOVING
THEY CAN TELL IT IS COMING FROM FR
27 posted on 10/28/2005 12:42:39 PM PDT by DeaconRed (VP needs a new scooter! ! ! !)
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To: Kerretarded

BTTT


28 posted on 10/28/2005 12:45:21 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: mhx

I notice the comment you were responding too, and which I was hastening to disagree with, was pulled! Hum. Another great response wasted.


29 posted on 10/28/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: TommyDale

Well holy smokes. Yer on to somethin'!

I cleared my history and cookies, and then checked results "no" being at 16765. Then I voted. Tally moved not one number higher. I smell a rat. Thanks for the heads up.


30 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:15 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: timsbella

Still 80% yes, Probably a preloaded poll.


31 posted on 10/28/2005 12:52:15 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: timsbella

I voted yes. If this prosecutor and grand jury felt Libby should be indicted, then indictments should go forward.

There is a presumption of innocence until Fitzgerald can prove otherwise.

If the allegations prove true and Libby is guilty, he has betrayed conservatives, his boss, his President, the Reagan Revolution and anyone who calls himself a FReeper.


32 posted on 10/28/2005 12:54:07 PM PDT by Splaffmeister (Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscium elitiu, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt.)
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To: Voter#537
THEY CAN TELL IT IS COMING FROM FR

Yeah, maybe my FReeperness leaks through the keyboard, into the network and gets picked up by their new FReeperNator 5000 before it can tally my vote. ;-)

33 posted on 10/28/2005 12:54:09 PM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: timsbella

BTTT


34 posted on 10/28/2005 12:54:27 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: sr4402

the yes is increasing around 20:1 over no


35 posted on 10/28/2005 12:56:45 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Question_Assumptions

Done, its currently 80% for indictments, not surprising for CNN.


36 posted on 10/28/2005 12:59:54 PM PDT by blueknight
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To: Question_Assumptions
I guess I'm going to get to use that response after all. This was a a STUPID investigation in the first place. The initial premise was even erroneous. Plame was neither a "covert" agent, nor was she serving "outside the United States"---both of which are essential for an investigation in the first place! Plame, and her lying, Washington "hanger-on" husband, are nothing but petty, Democrat political hacks, attempting to pose as "government officials"-----and doing a poor job at that!

If the CIA was attempting to cover their "collective" backsides for their poor performance, guess what, when this thing goes to court and Libby's attorneys' get hold of it, Plame, Wilson, AND the CIA are apt to be very sorry, indeed!!!

Like I said, the "investigation" was stupid and error fraught from the beginning. The prosecutor even admitted that he couldn't prove the initial charge. What a crock---and waste of OUR money! Martha Stewart revisited.
37 posted on 10/28/2005 1:06:08 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: L98Fiero

Hey FReepers, in my post above as michaeljeremyjones, I expressed my moderate and non-profane views about the Plame affair on the board. Within 15 minutes, I was called a "troll" by L98Fiero, had my posting privileges revoked AND my original post was deleted so none of you could read or respond to it. Sound a little like Stalinist Russia to anyone? I am amazed by how quickly the powers that by on this board responded. Geez.

Fortunately, I remembered that I had a second screenname from before, so I logged on with that and posted this so you all would know.

You are not hearing an uncensored viewpoint on this site and you are not being given the opportunity to freely converse and change minds.

Anyway, I will probably stop reading this site because it is clear that it is not a "marketplace of ideas" but rather a tightly controlled locus for just a few views. Plus, I have to study. SEE YA!!!!!!!! Thx for the good times while they lasted . . .


38 posted on 10/28/2005 1:10:47 PM PDT by Mullen
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To: L98Fiero

Thanks for the post! I was attempting to post something similar when the "drivel" got pulled. Thanks, again, for a very concise argument to a "think-with-your-heart-not with-your-head" post.


39 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:29 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Mullen

Thank God, you obviously are posting on the wrong site anyway. You might try DU, they really go for mindless drivel.


40 posted on 10/28/2005 1:15:22 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: sr4402
"Still 80% yes, Probably a preloaded poll."

The funniest thing about CNN.com is that they don't even have this many visitors to their website, nor viewers on their cable channel! LOL!

41 posted on 10/28/2005 1:19:27 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: singfreedom

The guy's blaming me because the mods read his posting history.


42 posted on 10/28/2005 1:21:08 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: TommyDale

I voted "NO", as did my husband, and 2 sisters, and the vote "counter" never moved! Something is definitely rotten at CNN-----probably more than just their poll counter!


43 posted on 10/28/2005 1:22:55 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: L98Fiero

I know. Just another bitter "lib", venting.


44 posted on 10/28/2005 1:25:32 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom

Not to point out the obvious, but it is likely that the vote tally display is only updated every five minutes or something--hence it wouldn't show your votes right away, but they would be added on the next post. It's also possible that the vote counter doesn't let you vote more than once from the same computer--to prevent one person from just sitting there and clicking "No" or "Yes" over and over again. That seems a lot more likely than a grand conspiracy at CNN. OK, NOW, I'm outta here


45 posted on 10/28/2005 1:27:36 PM PDT by Mullen
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To: Mullen

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, buddy.


46 posted on 10/28/2005 1:29:10 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Mullen

Darlin' the yes votes tally right away.

And you might want to stick around. You'll learn a thing or two, like critical thought and articulate debate. Even if you lean left, you can better craft your arguments when you hear and appreciate the other side.

But then you might have a crisis of conscience and join us.

Away with you - you'll have none of that, eh?


47 posted on 10/28/2005 1:31:34 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: timsbella

I'll stick around as long as I don't get muzzled again.


48 posted on 10/28/2005 1:33:25 PM PDT by Mullen
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To: singfreedom
I'm not saying that the investigation wasn't stupid, the CIA shouldn't be investigated, that Wilson shouldn't be investigated, or that the MSM isn't spinning this for the Democrats. What I am saying is that a crime is a crime and if he did nothing wrong, he didn't need to lie about it because lying about it was a crime. Either purjery is a crime or it isn't. If it isn't, then Clinton shouldn't have been impeached. If it is, then let's treat it like a crime. It wasn't a crime for Clinton to be banging Monica, either, but he lied to a grand jury about it, which made it a crime.

I'm sorry but when the excuses start sounding like the excuses liberals made for Clinton, something is wrong. Turnabout does not make it fair play.

49 posted on 10/28/2005 3:06:42 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: timsbella

They closed the voting. They must have realized the voting was being DUmmied.


50 posted on 10/28/2005 3:17:06 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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