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The U.N. finally discovers property rights
Union Leader.com ^ | October 29, 2005 | ALEJANDRO CHAFUEN

Posted on 10/29/2005 2:08:48 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes

EVEN THE United Nations on occasion does something right. So it’s a shame the media and the public, understandably fixated at the time on Hurricane Katrina’s impact on the U.S. Gulf Coast, missed it.

The “it” was the mid-September announcement that the United Nations was establishing a new commission that will focus on the legal hurdles people in the under-developed world face as they try to work their way out of poverty.

Institutions like the United Nations typically create commissions as a substitute for actually doing something about a problem. Thanks to its leadership — former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Peruvian economist Hernando De Soto — the new “High Level Commission on Legal Empowerment of the Poor” might actually accomplish some good.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: albright; desoto; poverty; property; propertyrights; un
What do you bet, they'll somehow eff the whole thing up?
1 posted on 10/29/2005 2:08:49 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes
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To: Past Your Eyes

No doubt. Albright didn't give a damn about property rights in the Balkans, where Serb farmers had clear legal title to most of the land in Kosovo and Bosnia, so her heading the commission hardly adds any legitimacy to the project.


2 posted on 10/29/2005 2:12:32 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: The_Reader_David
The UN and Madeline Albright never cared about property rights in Zimbabwe or South Africa either.
3 posted on 10/29/2005 2:16:10 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Past Your Eyes

This smells fishy- The U.N. supports property rights to the extent that they get to decide who gets what. They, the almighty U.N., will take from the rich, and redistribute to the poor. Those are the only kind of property rights they believe in.


4 posted on 10/29/2005 2:18:33 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: goonie4life9
They, the almighty U.N., will take from the rich, and redistribute to the poorthemselves. Those are the only kind of property rights they believe in.

They aren't in business to help others.

5 posted on 10/29/2005 2:25:04 PM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: magslinger

Very true. But if push came to shove, they'd have no problem redistributing a little to the poor (perhaps a hut or two) to keep up appearances.


6 posted on 10/29/2005 2:27:58 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: goonie4life9

Why should they give anything to the poor? Embarrassment? Fear of prosecution? They would spread around a little in bribes, but the poor are very unlikely recipients.


7 posted on 10/29/2005 2:54:48 PM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: magslinger

You know- so when the U.S. comes sniffing around, they can keep us at bay for a little while, so they can shred documents are prepare whitewashed reports.


8 posted on 10/29/2005 3:10:49 PM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: Past Your Eyes
"Thanks to its leadership — former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Peruvian economist Hernando De Soto"

Given his co-chair I would have to predict that Mr. De Soto is about to suffer the most embarrassing failure of his distinguished career. I feel very sorry for him, but the other actors in this endeavor make success virtually impossible.
9 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:25 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Past Your Eyes; Tolik; Travis McGee; neverdem

prediction: if anything real comes of this, it shall taste of Socialism and "redistribution"

delete the UN


10 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:08 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Past Your Eyes





SATURDAY
OCTOBER 29
2005















Is your private property
in jeopardy?

Posted: October 29, 2005





In the United States of America, where private property was considered to be sacred by the Founders and where the right to private property is guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment, your private property is not in jeopardy – unless: 1) your property lies within a municipality, 2) your property lies within a county, or 3) your property lies within federal land.

There was a time when local elected officials created building and zoning ordinances to ensure that structures met minimum safety standards and to separate residential from commercial properties. These ordinances had to be acceptable to the people governed by them, or the local elected officials would be replaced by new officials more responsive to the will of the governed.


This fundamental principle of freedom gives meaning to the idea that government is empowered by the consent of the governed.

In recent years, this principle has been replaced by a new idea, advanced by the President's Council on Sustainable Development. Goal number 8, of the PCSD, says:

"We need a new collaborative decision process that leads to better decisions; more rapid change; and more sensible use of human, natural and financial resources in achieving our goals."

This new decision process empowers professionals to make the policy decisions that govern how people must live and empowers bureaucracies to implement and enforce these policies.

During the sustainable-development epidemic of the 1990s, the federal government provided millions of dollars in grants to the American Planning Association to develop a master plan that would bring all communities into compliance with the PCSD's vision of sustainable development.

The 1,500-page plan is called Growing Smart Legislative Guidebook: Model Statutes for Planning and the Management of Change.

Prodded by state-level planning professionals and enticed by the promise of federal funding for implementation, state governments rushed to enact state comprehensive planning laws fashioned by the American Planning Association. Invariably, these state laws require counties to develop local comprehensive land-use plans that conform to the regulations set forth in the APA's master plan.

Municipal and county governments, dependent upon state and federal government funding, have no choice but to comply with the dictates of the state's comprehensive planning laws. Consequently, it no longer matters what the people who are governed want; they must comply with the regulations designed and decided by the professionals, and implemented and enforced by government bureaucrats.

These regulations may be so detailed as to dictate the varieties of plants that may be used for landscaping, the color of paint used inside and outside structures, the size and color of business signs, and require that materials used for construction be certified as "environmentally friendly" regardless of the cost.

One of the more onerous concepts introduced in the master plan is the idea of "Amortization of Non-Conforming Uses." This scheme allows structures that do not meet the new regulations to continue in use for a specified period of time. If the structures are not brought into compliance by the deadline, the owner loses his right to the property, which could be taken by government, without compensation.

No private property within any municipality or county is safe from this new vision of sustainable development.



People who have a property interest in federal land are in even greater jeopardy. Ranchers who have invested thousands of dollars and years of sweat-equity in fences and watering systems are seeing their grazing allotments reduced to the point of economic non-viability. Loggers are now prohibited from harvesting timber on vast stretches of the national forest. Miners and drillers who pay for leases and invest millions in equipment are denied the right to extract natural resources from federal land. People whose families have invested in summer cabins on federal land are discovering that their permits are not being renewed, and the cabins are being confiscated or destroyed. Off-road vehicle enthusiasts are finding it increasingly difficult to use federal land. Even sightseers and bird watchers have discovered that new signs are spawning all across federal lands that read: "Area Beyond This Sign Closed – All Public Entry Prohibited."

Ownership of private property means that the exclusive right to use the property belongs to the owner. Restrictions on the use of private property, imposed by any authority other than by elected officials accountable to the people who are governed is usurpation of a fundamental principle of freedom.

This "new collaborative decision process" called sustainable development effectively extinguishes the rights of property owners, as well as the idea that government is empowered by the consent of the governed.





















11 posted on 10/29/2005 4:08:21 PM PDT by cope85
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To: goonie4life9

Sustainable Development.


12 posted on 10/29/2005 4:08:53 PM PDT by cope85
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To: King Prout; Travis McGee

Hernando de Soto

"In most countries, including my own, the idea is we the government will tell you what is good for you. In this case, the responsibility of carrying out the administration has been thrown at the people themselves. That trust in people is essentially what characterizes Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries going from being elite-led nations to those of nations that have grass-root economies." - Hernando De Soto.

Peruvian economist Hernando de Soto is the recipient of the Cato Institute's 2004 Friedman Prize for his work exploring the link between poverty and property rights in underdeveloped states. World leaders, academics, and journalists have praised his book The Mystery of Capital, which describes the extralegal systems of economic transaction created by citizens in countries without a strong system of property rights. De Soto's think tank the Institute for Liberty and Democracy seeks to implement reforms that give citizens of poor countries the ability to operate in a free enterprise system. The Economist has praised the ILD as one of the most important think tanks in the world, and the institute has implemented reforms throughout the former Soviet Union, as well as in Egypt and Peru.

http://unix.dfn.org/authors_of_week.shtml


13 posted on 10/29/2005 4:34:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

he's swimming in some odd waters, then, if he's working on a UN committee


14 posted on 10/29/2005 4:36:43 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Past Your Eyes; FOG724

I'm sure the UN will revert to being much more interested in affirmative action hurricanes and poverty rights as opposed to property rights, don'tcha think?


15 posted on 10/29/2005 8:07:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Issaquahking

Geeze! Maybe the Klamath Falls, Oregone farmers can git the UN in there to keep their water flowing to grow somethin besides blunt nosed suckerfish poop!!!


16 posted on 10/29/2005 8:10:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Past Your Eyes; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; ..
"When political leaders in other countries saw how the Peruvian reforms moved some 560,000 workers from the underground economy to the legal economy and generated some $300 million a year in new tax revenues, they started to understand. "
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The one thing these people understand: more money for the government. De Soto recieved an award from the Libertarian Cato institue. I think he has some very good ideas on how to solve poverty.



Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
17 posted on 10/29/2005 11:52:22 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: SierraWasp; Jeff Head; JohnHuang2; B4Ranch



Walt my friend, The Battle at Klamath was done by patriots, it was great that you were among them.

That lady coming over the fence is Carmen, challenging the Fed's on "who owns the Headgate" a woman who has more courage than 90 percent in this forum. It will take a lot more action like what happened on August 29th, 2001 at the Headgate. It was a day I'll never forget, and history being made. Thanks to JohnHuang2 for keeping everyone in the loop on Breaking News that day and always here in FR.


Institutions like the United Nations typically create commissions as a substitute for actually doing something about a problem. Thanks to its leadership — former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Not-so-bright and Peruvian economist Hernando De Soto...Not-so-bright is just wanting to share lime light with someone, even she knows wjc was nothing but trash, and the history books that carry the truth will show it.

B4Ranch and Jeff, thought you might be interested in this, so gave you a great American ping.
18 posted on 10/30/2005 5:16:14 AM PST by Issaquahking (Islam is a religion of peace...POS! The muslim community refuses to stop its radicals !.)
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To: Issaquahking; Carry_Okie; nunya bidness; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Grampa Dave; forester; ...

Thanks for the ping


19 posted on 10/30/2005 5:41:53 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date on the oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: Coleus

PING


20 posted on 10/30/2005 8:50:09 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: FOG724

ping


21 posted on 10/30/2005 12:23:49 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: Seadog Bytes

thanks.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 12:28:47 PM PST by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: Past Your Eyes
What do you bet, they'll somehow eff the whole thing up?

I'm all in!
23 posted on 10/31/2005 10:54:27 AM PST by proud_yank (Socialism is economic oppression)
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