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Mom And Son Jailed For Incest (Canada)
Toronto Sun ^ | October 29, 2005 | Canadian Press

Posted on 10/29/2005 3:35:44 PM PDT by Loyalist

KITCHENER -- A Cambridge woman and her 25-year-old son were sentenced for incest and forgery yesterday for a five-year relationship that led to three more children in the family.

The 42-year-old woman was sentenced to 43 months behind bars while her son was given a 19-month conditional sentence.

They were found guilty in August of posing as husband and wife and having sex with each other between 1996 and 2001.

They cannot be named to protect the identity of their two children, who are now in foster care.

Their relationship only came to light after their third child, a 2-year-old girl, was rushed to hospital under suspicious circumstances in June 2001. The girl died from dehydration.

Her illness was later linked to an underlying medical condition -- common to children of incest -- called adrenal gland atrophy.

FALSE DOCUMENTS

Her parents were not held responsible for her death but police began an investigation that culminated in the couple's arrests on charges of incest, as well as fabricating and using false documents in an attempt to create a new identity for the son.

Justice Pat Flynn called the woman a "monster" during sentencing yesterday.

"I've never encountered a more bizarre case in my quarter-century in the law," Flynn said.

The couple actually got married and the man claimed to be his mother's husband. He even made up a new name, giving himself the title of prince. He donned a pair of glasses and adopted an English accent.

During the trial, jurors heard suspicious social workers pestered the woman for weeks to present her son and her husband together in one room.

She eventually said her son had died in a volcano in the Congo and gave up the charade only at the beginning of his sentencing hearing.

The man said that after hearing the overwhelming amount of evidence at the trial he finally believed he was actually his mother's son.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: funforthewholefamily; incest; oedipusrex; perversion
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If they'd only kept a low profile for a few more years, the courts would have given them the right to marry instead of sending them to jail.
1 posted on 10/29/2005 3:35:45 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist
"...died in a volcano in the Congo"

Well hellzbellz, I bet that happens all the time.

2 posted on 10/29/2005 3:42:54 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: Loyalist

Hey, if they love each other, why can't they get married?!! Is it any weirder than a teacher marrying a her student, or two guys getting married, or two woman, or a guy who thinks he a woman or a...you get the picture.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 3:43:12 PM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: Loyalist

"Her illness was later linked to an underlying medical condition -- common to children of incest -- called adrenal gland atrophy. "

WHAT is THAT and WHY is it common to children of incest?


4 posted on 10/29/2005 3:44:24 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Loyalist

I heard he was a mother.........


5 posted on 10/29/2005 3:44:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Loyalist

I'll bet Hallmark doesn't make a Mothers' day card for this guy


6 posted on 10/29/2005 3:45:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Loyalist
incest and forgery Nows thats two charges you don't usually see together.
7 posted on 10/29/2005 3:45:41 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Loyalist
HOW could the son NOT know that he was ah ... his mother? Surely the son knew he was having sex with his mother. If he didn't why don the fake accent and change his name to something ridiculous?
8 posted on 10/29/2005 3:45:50 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Past Your Eyes
Well hellzbellz, I bet that happens all the time.

Right! In Arkansas.

9 posted on 10/29/2005 3:46:00 PM PDT by Temple Owl (ueuu)
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To: nmh

I'm horrified to think that children of incest are "common" enough for conditions they suffer to be identified.

As for this case - one just shakes the head. One really wonders when God is going to lose patience with us.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 10/29/2005 3:48:33 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Loyalist

Is this strange thread night? I was reading the penis thread till it got yanked (pun unintended, now this.


11 posted on 10/29/2005 3:48:34 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: MadIvan

I don't want to he here when He loses ALL patience.

Many say, it won't be too long. I don't know but hope for the best. To NEVER see a headline like this would make me deliriously happy!


12 posted on 10/29/2005 3:49:52 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Loyalist
He even made up a new name, giving himself the title of prince. He donned a pair of glasses and adopted an English accent.

Is he now the husband formerly known as "Prince"?

13 posted on 10/29/2005 3:49:54 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Loyalist

Just more irrational prejudice and incestophobia.

If we could only learn to be more inclusive and tolerant, and to allow people to exercise their fundamental civil right of privacy.


14 posted on 10/29/2005 3:50:45 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: festus

I would guess the forgery charge is related to false documentation for his assumed name. Maybe a fake birth certificate, or it could be forgery for him to sign a contract with a name other than his own.


15 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:10 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
A penis thread got yanked? What a relief!
16 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:36 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: nmh

Oedipus didn't know, at first.


17 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:37 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

I missed a penis thread???

Just damn, I miss all the good stuff.


18 posted on 10/29/2005 3:52:27 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Loyalist
If they'd only kept a low profile for a few more years, the courts would have given them the right to marry instead of sending them to jail.

They were married. And it's kind of hard to keep a low profile when one of your kids dies.

19 posted on 10/29/2005 3:53:30 PM PDT by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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To: kaehurowing

bump


20 posted on 10/29/2005 3:54:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Past Your Eyes
"...died in a volcano in the Congo"

Well hellzbellz, I bet that happens all the time.

It happens more often than you might realize. I am this guys last remaining heir, and after a few red-tape obstacles are cleared, I am gonna be rich. My lawyer in Kenya is taking care of it as we speak.

21 posted on 10/29/2005 3:54:43 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: nmh
Her illness was later linked to an underlying medical condition -- common to children of incest -- called adrenal gland atrophy.

Should both have jail time for child abuse.

On the other hand I wish that condition would do in many of the dozens of inbred cats around here, encouraged by well-meaning retired ladies who set out unlimited amounts of cat food each day.

22 posted on 10/29/2005 3:58:13 PM PDT by CedarDave (Life was simpler before Cindy showed up in Crawford.)
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To: MadIvan
One really wonders when God is going to lose patience with us.

Hey, they're Canadian. God will understand.
23 posted on 10/29/2005 3:58:59 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: nmh
WHAT is THAT and WHY is it common to children of incest?

I believe it is a condition where the adrenal gland has either shrunk or is very small to begin with.

24 posted on 10/29/2005 3:59:23 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (http://www.navyfield.com)
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To: Loyalist

I guess when talked with his buddies about MILFs, he meant his own Mom?


25 posted on 10/29/2005 4:02:49 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: CedarDave

Well, think about it. As loathesome as they are shoudl they be charged with child abuse for bringing the children into the world? I mean without these two low lifes, the kids would never have been, bad adrenals and all.


26 posted on 10/29/2005 4:05:09 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Loyalist
Out, Damn Spot! Lady Macbeth.

prisoner6

27 posted on 10/29/2005 4:06:08 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: Loyalist

Things that make you go BWuhhhhhh (full body shiver)


28 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:07 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Loyalist
They cannot be named to protect the identity of their two children, who are now in foster care.

Their names? I'm guessing Oedipus and Jocasta.

29 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:45 PM PDT by edpc
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To: cajungirl
I missed a penis thread???

Was that the missing penis thread?

30 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:58 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: cajungirl

You have a point there.


31 posted on 10/29/2005 4:09:07 PM PDT by CedarDave (Life was simpler before Cindy showed up in Crawford.)
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To: Loyalist
Or as Tom Lehrer (partially) put it years ago in "Oedipus Rex:"

"His rivals used to say quite a bit

That as a monarch he was most unfit

But still in all they had to admit

That he loved his mother.

"Yes he loved his mother like no other

His daughter was his sister and his son was his brother,

One thing on which you can depend is

He sure knew who a boy's best friend is!

"When he found out what he had done

He tore his eyes out one by one

A tragic end to a loyal son

Who loved his mother."

32 posted on 10/29/2005 4:09:17 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: nmh
inbreed does funny things to DNA and chromosomes and the like...

look at the pedigree dog industry...

The inbreed families of Dalmatians to get the prefect spotting and coat collar and size for the dogs... the blood lines have been so inbreed it actually has affected the intelligence of the Animal.. that is why most Dalmatians are Dumb as a post.
33 posted on 10/29/2005 4:12:45 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Loyalist


They should come to MA, it won't be long now before incest is legal here, hell, everything else is, why not incest........


34 posted on 10/29/2005 4:13:22 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: cripplecreek
I heard he was a mother.......

Ding ding ding ding,,,,,,We have a winner.......!

35 posted on 10/29/2005 4:14:34 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: JRios1968
He is the only guy I know who when someone yelled "You Mother****er" would turn around and say "Yes?".AWB
36 posted on 10/29/2005 4:14:47 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: Americanwolf

Oops he's Candian so change about to aboot.AWB


37 posted on 10/29/2005 4:15:31 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother
wrong just soo wrong.... now excuse me while I go laugh my guts out!!
38 posted on 10/29/2005 4:16:31 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Loyalist
Sorry, but there is no grounds under today's loony " freedom to do as one pleases" ACLU-driven mentality to deprive these people the right to marry. They have, under today's "liberty for all" mentality, the right to marry and procreate.

Deformed kids? Well, they'll drag into the courtroom retarded children who are the product of unrealted spouses, and unretarded children who are the product of incest couplings.

Once the door has been opened for deviations from the traditional man/woman unrelated partners set-up, YOU CANNOT LEGALLY SAY NO TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING.

I hope the idiots enjoy what they have wrought.

39 posted on 10/29/2005 4:19:14 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Loyalist

One more fly in the consenting adults ointment.


40 posted on 10/29/2005 4:20:08 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: nmh

I don't have any information about this particular condition, but any disorder described as "common to children of incest" is likely to be a recessive genetic condition


41 posted on 10/29/2005 4:24:28 PM PDT by Bluchers Elephant
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To: Loyalist

eh?


42 posted on 10/29/2005 4:25:00 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: muir_redwoods
I'll bet Hallmark doesn't make a Mothers' day card for this guy

But Hustler might.

:>)

43 posted on 10/29/2005 4:26:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Bernard Marx
I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking of Lehrer.
44 posted on 10/29/2005 4:27:48 PM PDT by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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I'll bet Hallmark doesn't make a Mothers' day card for this guy

No, but the DNC Greeting Card Company does:

"Dear Mom,

"Roses are Red,

"Violets are Blue,

"If our son was a girl,

"I'd have sex with her, too!

"Love,

45 posted on 10/29/2005 4:28:12 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Meanwhile I'm sure you've got some guys in Nigeria collecting money on the internet for your legal fees. On a percentage basis of course!


46 posted on 10/29/2005 4:28:23 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: pabianice

p.s. Bush lied


47 posted on 10/29/2005 4:28:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: CedarDave

A pellet gun does the trick.


48 posted on 10/29/2005 4:29:18 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Loyalist

I presume this would be okay with libertarians, along with legalized drugs, open borders, isolationism, etc?


49 posted on 10/29/2005 4:29:22 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Loyalist

Oh so confusing ... homosexual marriage is ok because it is consenting adults in a loving relationship but a mom and kid who are consenting adults is wrong - huh!


50 posted on 10/29/2005 4:29:58 PM PDT by roylene
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