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To: starfish923
The longer Russia goes without arresting the death spiral, the harder it is to pull out of it

The problem is, a declining population usually means a declining economy which means a further decline in population, etc.

Everyone likes to bash immigration to the US. But immigration means GDP growth.

23 posted on 10/30/2005 11:53:24 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

If women in the US weren't abortion their babies, we'd have a good stable population without mass immigration. Without immigration we'd be losing population because of abortion. This is not good.


42 posted on 10/30/2005 1:49:27 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: staytrue

"Everyone likes to bash immigration to the US. But immigration means GDP growth."


Illegal or not, the immigrants here work very hard. That is why they came to the U.S. Directly or indirectly they bolster the nation's economy.

I can't say the same for those who come to Europe, where they can live off the Socialist system. That France is virtually supporting these terrorists infuriates me (and a number of French people, as well).

This is just my opinion -- and I'm not an expert in either economics or international affairs. But when I see Europe, I see a very depressive environment.


47 posted on 10/30/2005 2:04:21 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: staytrue
The problem is, a declining population usually means a declining economy which means a further decline in population, etc. Everyone likes to bash immigration to the US. But immigration means GDP growth.

I didn't make the comment about arresting the death spiral, but I agree with your above comment about immigration.
Problem is that not all immigration is good immigration.

*One would want immigrants who AREN'T going IMMEDIATELY to the welfare rolls (elder family members of new immigrants), medical system (sick family members of new immigrants) or prison system (felon new immigrants a la Castro's dumping).

*Also many new immigrants come here purely for the education, take it home and then are out-source workers. That's a double whammy against us.

*Immigrants who would want to demolish our Christian society aren't welcome either, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want gay marriage MOSTLY because that would open the door for Islam's 4-wife marriage arrangement or Farsi's/India's anything-goes marriages.
Christmas and Easter stay, so do God and Jesus.

*Terrorists, of course, can stay home and pull the bomb cord in their own backyard.

Immigrants who work hard and play by the rules (Arnie's definition) are welcome. That excludes the 11,000,000 illegals here. They are UNwelcome, no matter where they come from or how hard they work or for how little they work. We get enough LEGAL ones to add to our population....and they are welcome, with the above *caveats.

127 posted on 10/31/2005 8:09:42 AM PST by starfish923 ( Socrates: It is never right to do wrong.)
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