Skip to comments.Pistol-packers challenge police (NH)
Posted on 10/31/2005 9:43:58 AM PST by neverdem
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"Commenting on what Pelletier has written on the Internet about his bookstore experience, Rice said, I think he exercised extraordinarily poor judgment on that particular night (because) he had an open-top holster in the small of his back in an unconcealed fashion. . . ."
I bet the MSM is furious about this--they went to the instructor looking for Rice to say "What were you thinking carrying a gun!?!?!?" Instead, Rice said, "What were you thinking carrying a gun THERE, when you might NEED it?"
I'd just gotten jumped on by somebody else for no real reason other than I disagreed with him.
And your post sounded pretty similar to his crap.
If your post was misunderstood, sorry.
I took that comment completely differently. I got the impression the instructor was critiquing the difficulty of drawing from that holster and saying it was a stupid place to have your handgun stashed!
Let me repeat what I said on the Packing.org thread:
The mistakes I made in dealing with my new, unfamiliar holster and my inattentiveness to my surroundings [while they are instructive cautionary points] are beside the fundamental point - it seems evident that the police would have responded identically, if not even more severely (guns drawn, shouting, etc), had I simply printed through my shirt, my jacket had ridden up while reaching for a book, or had been carrying openly in an officially approved thumb-break Bianci leather belt holster.
The fundamental point is the inappropriate police actions, in case anyone else missed it.
I'm hoping that this article circulated among New Hampshire police departments both near and far, and that nobody else will be violently confronted for exercising their fundamental right to armed self-defense.
You dun stang them.
"Excuse me are you aware you have a open gun on your back? If someone grabs it and does something bad with it you would be liable."
This sounds like what should have been said to him.
There are lots of states where open carry is technically "legal" per the state constitution but custom and police harassment have dictated that any type of open carry "alarms the people" and is therefore really illegal.
A right, to be maintained, needs to be exercised
Hey, no problem. I didn't mean anything at all by it, simply a "turn of phrase" I think they call it... :)
"The fundamental point is the inappropriate police actions, in case anyone else missed it."
I didn't miss it, and I agree, you should not have been harassed. Imagine what would happen out here in LaLa Land.
SWAT would probable park there APC on you while trying to disarming you!
I'm glad you are big enough to admit your mistake and hope others will learn something from it.
An article like this makes me wish that the hubby had a FReeper account. He'd enjoy the posts.
I think the point is that if officers of state Pro-2nd Amendment organizations can't say something positive about a citizen exercising their 2nd Amendment rights, they shouldn't say anything at all.
Rice had a "falling out" with Go-NH (as well as with other Pro-2nd Amendment orgaizations in his past), so there may be some animosity that he has trouble overcoming with positions on Open-Carry espoused by Go-NH. The record appears to suggest that if one doesn't agree with Rice, he has a tendency to lambast and attack. The fellow certainly does some good, but has a hard time seeing past his limited views on how others should properly exercise 2nd Amendment rights.
One hopes to not see Rice's quotes used by Brady Campaign. It takes only a slight twist to say that if a NH gun-organization officer is critical of open-carry as potentially dangerous to the public, it should be banned.
I 'preciate that. I'm doing pretty well,been quite busy since Katrina and Rita's visit. Then last weekend, as we weree trying to get the vehicles back in shape after their extended use, the tornado touchdown in a trailer park near Evansville,IN got things real busy again- that's only about 50 miles from where I've been staying with family.
Why the LEOs -- of all people -- aren't up to speed regarding laws governing firearm possession in the very state they're working is quite frankly beyond me. Be that as it may it'd appear that's precisely what's happening, eh?
Well, there are quite a few who would try to apply the law as they think it should be read rather than as written, particularly in states without *Official Misconduct* statutes. There's a local gunshop that has a *no loaded guns on premises- insurance requirement* sign posted along with * This means cops too* and a snapshot of his front window after a round from an off-duty cop's Glock .40 passed through it. The first words reportedly out of the shooter's mouth was a hopeful Do we have to report this...?