Posted on 11/01/2005 7:51:17 AM PST by gobucks
That looks a lot like the bombed out church in the game, "Return to Castle Wolfenstein". Did they find a ritualistic dagger to be used to bring back a demon-possessed German leader from the 1300's; only for be wiped out by an Arnold-look-alike armed with brass-knuckles, a .45, a Tommy Gun, an MP45, a shotgun, a double-barreled shotgun, a battery-powered gatling gun, WW2 GI-issued and German potatomasher handgrenades, a silenced machine gun, a sniper rifle, a bolt-action rifle, bullet-proof armor, a rocketlauncher, and first aid kits up the wazuu?
There are some pretty freaky things there, too. BUt, mainly in the form a freaky people getting on and off the metro trains.
Thank you for the additional info.
Many thanks for the update and email report...
There are quite a few ways the vaults could be examined these days ... pencil thin wire cameras, etc...
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Mercator's 1569 world map isn't detailed enough to show Narragansett Bay. He does have various symbols as do other maps, but they frequently reflect what was thought to be the case rather than personal knowledge. So the Norse were known, through the sagas at the very least, to have been in NE North America, and he shows that.
As for measurements, there are at least half a dozen competing claims about the measurements used, each used to prove that a different group designed it - they can't all be right! This applies to architectural style as well.
C14 dating suggests that it is colonial and very unlikely to be much earlier.
Then there's the fact that the one dig carried out showed absolutely no signs of anything not Native American or colonial.
And finally, there's the stone Chesterton Windmill in England, built just a bit earlier than the colony and which could easily have been the inspiration for the Norfolk Tower.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/leicester.street/ambling/chesterton.html
As for the alleged corn at Rosslyn - is it corn? How can you tell? What did corn, highly evolved from the original, look like around 1500 which is probably about the time of the carvings (and 100 years after Sinclair's alleged voyage). I know people who are sure it does not look like corn/maize, - the 3-lobed leaf could be one of a number of plants.
Most of the information on the web regarding the original purpose of the Chesterton Mill is copied verbatim from a piece written by Dorothy Noden who states that the structure was originally constructed as a mill. This would be interesting as there appears to be no other mill structure constructed in a similar fashion anywhere else.
I have read in many places that it was built as an Observatory in 1632 & converted to grinding grain later. One quote is from a mill expert, Rex Wailes writing in 1937: The Chesterton windmill has been converted to its present (or more properly past) purpose beyond all doubt. This can be seen by inspection of the cap which is the revolving top portion carrying the sails...
I'm not an archeologist (though I have been involved in post grad fieldwork - more out of curiousity than anything) and am not debating the origin of the Newport structure but it does not appear that anyone has come up with a difinitive theory as to who built the structure, when and for what purpose. Any radiocarbon dating should really be conducted on the moartar used as - presumably - the shells ground into lime used in the mixture would give some indication as to the general age of the construction.Perhaps ther is some organic material other than shells that could be tested. Then again, the shells could well have come from old deposits on the shore with a far older date than their ultimate use.
If you conduct tests on organic materials at the base of or somewhere near the tower, all that is liable to tell you is that there was activity in that area at a given time. Similarly, if you carbon date a fire pit at a site and that site had been in use for 5k years but the materials you test come back saying 1k years, all you can conclude is that the particular combusted material indicates a presence at some time along the site's history but certainly not at that time the site was first occupied/used. People do adopt sites well after those who first established or built them are dead and gone for centuries. On top of that, organic objects - bones, shells, horn - fashioned into ceremonial or heirloom objects are often much older than their last or most recent owner/user.
I also have not made any assertion that carvings at Rosslyn are meant to depict corn/maise or Aloe as some have postulated. I've seen the carvings and it is a bit of a stretch to say that they resemble corn http://www.antoranz.net/CURIOSA/ZBIOR4/C0402/11-QZC09072_kukurydza.HTM
Corn in the 1400-1500's did look a lot like modern corn. Until the mid 1600's the Tunxis were growing "modern" corn along the banks of the Farmington River in CT and it was standard enough for a monetary excahange rate to be established by the first settlers of Farmington and Hartford. Certain areas known to be used for growing the corn have been examined and found to have been in use for a few hundred years. Ancient "corn" achieved its modern look over 4k years ago. See: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,61210,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3
Are the carvings a stylistic interpretation of corn? Who knows. The stonemasons who did it aren't talking.
Thank you for your common sense.
OK, so why has the vault not been opened since the 1600'd?
Geraldo Rivera hasn't heard of it yet?
No, chainsaws are for the Martian atmosphere where the human weilder needs an oxygen tank, but somehow allows the combustion engine of a chainsaw to run indefinately.
The radiocarbon dating was done on the mortar.
http://www.ramtops.co.uk/newport.html
And the invoices for the construction of the Chesterton Windmill as a windmill were found about 20 years ago.
Doug
Interesting...Thanks for the link. I imagine that had the British not damaged a good amount of the top of the tower - which I have read referenced to - the investigation would have yielded more concrete results sooner.
I wonder why they did not test the clay pipe fragment they found. First I heard of that.
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