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Putin: Terror rooted in USSR breakup
The Washington Times ^ | Nov. 1, 2005

Posted on 11/01/2005 5:06:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday his country's problem with terrorism is rooted in the breakup of the Soviet Union.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alqaedarussia; communism; communist; kgb; lenin; leninlover; putin; russia; sovietunion; stalin; stalinismyfriend; ussr; vladimirputin
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To: jb6

Just like the Chinese are a capitalist society, and Vietam is coming close to being one. China is more capitolist than Russia is, and has the same level of personal liberties.


21 posted on 11/01/2005 10:01:36 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: jb6

And it is why China fears breaking up too. Too many Islamists in the Western provences of the PRC.


22 posted on 11/01/2005 10:02:45 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

China is controlled directly by the Communist party, a one party rule that still controls the heights of industry, which in this case is actually a fascist strategy.


23 posted on 11/01/2005 10:07:28 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So Putin wants to put the USSR back together??


24 posted on 11/01/2005 10:12:16 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: jb6

I wonder why the Lenin's mummy's issue is important for some people.


25 posted on 11/01/2005 11:34:07 PM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...related.

Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513904/posts
(November 2, 2005)

26 posted on 11/02/2005 1:26:22 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: All

If you buy Mr. Putin's dribble you should go and post on DU.


27 posted on 11/02/2005 4:32:29 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Some days it appears as though Putin thinks he can use terrorists lands and the live warm bodies to reconstitute the USSR.
28 posted on 11/02/2005 4:37:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jb6

If the USSR stil was in existence would we really expect the Mooselimb problem to be any better? I'd think that the USSR would probably be stirring up and arming the likes of Al Qaeda.


29 posted on 11/02/2005 4:39:59 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It must really burn them up that Ronald Reagan helped the Afghanis bleed their beloved communist Red Army dry.

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And, under the law of unintended consequences, gave birth to al-queda.

30 posted on 11/02/2005 4:44:54 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: jb6

"Problem is, you've just described every Islamic's dream state. As long as the Russians can't take control (militarily or economically) of these regions, terrorism will flourish and much of it WILL find its way to us, just like always. As for us, our positions there are untenable in the long run, as there are no ports or allied nations with adequate infrastructure to support a sizable force."

And the problem is that you have correctly described the situation.

On the other hand we don't want the Kremlin to return to heavy handed tactics that would force us to treat them adversarily.

It's a delicate balance and the administration seems to be doing fairly well. It was certainly encouraging to see Putin talking about not running for a third term.


31 posted on 11/02/2005 6:31:07 AM PST by gondramB
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To: The Red Zone
Again, don't confuse the issue of keeping a nation within the boundries of the old USSR, which itself was built within most of the boundries of the Russian empire, with the rule of the communist party. Most people wanted the communists out, period. They didn't want to turn one super power nation into 15 squabling states.

Furthermore, if only the communists were gotten rid of, Russia (as in all of the USSR) would have resembled the old Empire, as it's doing anyways, and yes, they would have pushed the Islamics down, just like they did before.

Starting with Tsarina Elizabeth, the Muslim lands were open to missionaries from all denominations of Christianity.

That's what many in the West can't get through their heads. They want to keep thinking of the Russians in the frame of the 1970s, Russians think of themselves in the frame of the 1910s and the reality on the ground is nothing in comparisson with the drival that these "experts" pump out...experts, mind you, the majority of which have never stepped foot in Russia (most never stepped foot in the USSR either for that matter).

32 posted on 11/02/2005 8:51:27 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: gondramB
On the other hand we don't want the Kremlin to return to heavy handed tactics that would force us to treat them adversarily.

Somehow I think once that first WMD goes off in an American city and the death toll climbs to x10 or x100 that of 911, we'll be encouraging and cheering the Russians to do just that.

33 posted on 11/02/2005 8:52:58 AM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: jb6

"Somehow I think once that first WMD goes off in an American city and the death toll climbs to x10 or x100 that of 911, we'll be encouraging and cheering the Russians to do just that."


I lived through the end of the cold war and I had family die from Stalinism and it was a much larger problem than Al Quaida - that is not a trade off we should take willingly.

But you are right that the American public reaction might well include panic and a willingness to do and accept anything in the name of safety.


34 posted on 11/02/2005 8:59:39 AM PST by gondramB
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To: Thunder90
Just like the Chinese are a capitalist society, and Vietam is coming close to being one. China is more capitolist than Russia is, and has the same level of personal liberties.

Firstly, Russia has freedom of religion, China does not. Secondly, Russians can obtain abortions up to 12 weeks, it's their CHOICE. In China women are forced to have abortions.

Secondly, one can own property in Russia. Property cannot be owned in China.

Thirdly, the Internet is not regulated in Russia, whereas in China it is strictly regulated. I frequently post to FR from Volgograd.

Fourthly, there are several political parties in Russia. There is only one in China.

Fifthly, there is freedom in the MSM, albeit the government does own a couple of the main TV stations, but overall there is freedom. There is no free press or TV in China.
35 posted on 11/02/2005 9:36:41 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There was little terrorism in Nazi Germany as well (except the state-sponsored kind, of course).


36 posted on 11/02/2005 9:37:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: wtc911
And, under the law of unintended consequences, gave birth to al-queda.

Having personal experience in this area I can tell you Russia and the US are both partly responsible.
37 posted on 11/02/2005 9:39:09 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jb6; Thunder90
Now, deny that because of the break up of the Soviets that Islamics did not flood the southern and northern Caucuses and Central Asia.

Those regions were islamic already.

38 posted on 11/02/2005 10:30:01 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GarySpFc
Having personal experience in this area I can tell you Russia and the US are both partly responsible.

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I have no reason to doubt that.

Putin said in December 2001 that the Chechnya deal was really about creating a global caliphate. A month later the PM of Singapore announced evidence on a captured PC that indicated El-Jemiaah (sp?) has plans to create a SEAsian Caliphate that would link with regional caliphates in Africa, the ME and the Caucusus Mountains. I have no reason to doubt that this is still the objective.

39 posted on 11/02/2005 10:42:27 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: wtc911

On every battlefield where you find dead al-Qaeda you will find Chechens. Need I say more?


40 posted on 11/02/2005 11:24:32 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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