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Riots expose France's fault lines
theaustralian ^ | November 02, 2005 | Emma-Kate Symons

Posted on 11/01/2005 7:30:45 PM PST by ncountylee

FRANCE has plunged into a bitter debate over the failure to integrate its large Muslim community after five nights of rioting in a Paris suburb populated by North African immigrants.

As locals mourned the deaths of two teenage boys rumoured to have died last week while being chased by police, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy reiterated his vow of zero tolerance against urban violence.

But he stood accused of playing into the hands of the extreme Right and National Front leader Jean-Marie Le Pen by using words such as "scum" to describe violent youths who made life "impossible" on high-rise council estates such as those in Clichy-sous-Bois.

Muslim leaders from the northeast Paris suburb have released video evidence they claim proves police threw tear-gas grenades into a suburban mosque on Sunday evening.

Worshippers were praying during violent unrest sparked by the death by electrocution of two youths aged 15 and 17 on Thursday evening.

Mr Sarkozy is a presidential aspirant who has made his career on a tough law and order stance. Since the riots, he has angered political leaders from his ruling Centre-Right party to the socialist Left, for engaging in "dangerous demagoguery".

Arnaud Monteborg, the co-founder of the New Socialist Party, said Mr Sarkozy was "poaching the territory of the extreme Right". "We are ... in the 'Sarko circus'," he said.

Minister for the Promotion of Equal Opportunities Azouz Begag even chastised his colleague for the use of language such as "scum" to describe the young people of the suburbs.

"This is about the absolute failure of integration - we don't offer hope," said Jean-Marc Benamou, journalist and author of a book about the Socialist prime minister Francois Mitterrand.

According to the Socialist Party's Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the riots marked "the failure of the politics of Nicolas Sarkozy".

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: france; sarkozy

1 posted on 11/01/2005 7:30:45 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

yahh, like we haven't seen this coming for years now....

Big shocker that muslim riots are starting to happen in France.


2 posted on 11/01/2005 7:32:53 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: ncountylee
Of course, the French do nothing, thus encouraging the Islamic Nazis to ratched up the violence.

Smart move, France.

3 posted on 11/01/2005 7:34:20 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary

Err, ratchet.


4 posted on 11/01/2005 7:34:35 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: ncountylee

"the failure to integrate its large muslim community"

Of course, I'm sure, there was no failure of the mulims to integrate into their host country.(sarcasm thingies, just in case)


5 posted on 11/01/2005 7:35:20 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Starting? They have been going on for years now.


6 posted on 11/01/2005 7:36:27 PM PST by oolatec
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To: ncountylee
Muslims don't "integrate".

They plan to rule.

7 posted on 11/01/2005 7:37:18 PM PST by Gritty ("Europeans unprepared to roll back Wahabism better be prepared to live with it, or under it-Mk Steyn)
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To: ncountylee

I can't believe Sarkozy is French. He is actually attempting to do something about the Islamofacist menace.


8 posted on 11/01/2005 7:37:26 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Rosemont
I can't believe Sarkozy is French.

He's not - Greek, Hungarian, Jew.

9 posted on 11/01/2005 7:40:17 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Even more interesting is the Socialists using the muslims to further their politcal objectives.

Talk about overplaying your hand. Makes me wonder about the Socialist Scum packets currently at work in the United States. Radical Islam...Useful Idiots.


10 posted on 11/01/2005 7:42:13 PM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Gritty

JOY!!! lets all go to the sandlands as jews/christians/infidels and integrate with lead and sand,

fair is fair


11 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:13 PM PST by jackson29
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To: ncountylee

I wonder if we'll have to bail France out of their Islamofascist mess once these idiots take over their country.


12 posted on 11/01/2005 7:56:15 PM PST by andie74 (A charter member of "Italians for Alito")
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To: ncountylee
No, the riots expose France's hypocrisy
13 posted on 11/01/2005 7:57:55 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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To: Gritty
They plan to rule.

Exactly. They integrate you.

14 posted on 11/01/2005 7:58:19 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: ncountylee
He's not - Greek, Hungarian, Jew.

I imagine the Muslims are annoyed to have emigrated thousands of miles only to have to run into another tough ass Jew.

16 posted on 11/01/2005 8:05:14 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Certain_Doom

You give up too easily. I'm not giving them France. Don't like French politics, but like to visit their country and damned if I'd be satisfied seeing a bunch of burkhas and towelheads running the place. Can you imagine what the muslims would do to a good wine? Or to Notre Dame? Our graves at Normandy? Pita instead of baguettes? Screw 'em and the camels they rode in on. The French are the French and that's not saying much, but I'm not giving the muslims France just yet.


17 posted on 11/01/2005 8:20:26 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: gotribe
...but I'm not giving the muslims France just yet.

Whew!! That's a relief.

18 posted on 11/01/2005 8:22:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: gotribe

Looks like we will be saving France again, maybe this time as a part of the War on Terror.


19 posted on 11/01/2005 8:23:17 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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To: ncountylee

They can PROVE they lobbed tear gas?!?

Well clearly the Mussies are justified in Rioting and lopping off heads... don't be so intolerant.


20 posted on 11/01/2005 8:32:46 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: Last Dakotan
Lol. Bullseye. Gives a new definition to the term: "poetic justice."
21 posted on 11/01/2005 8:52:57 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: ncountylee
France has had muslim/Islamic riots before. Two years ago, if memory serves me correct, Chiraq's motorcade was firebombed while passing a town in the outter ring of Paris that has been taken over by the followers of the Religion of Peace. They have shot at police, fireman and burned all the cars.

The only news here is that it is in the MSM - abit only sketchy details at that.

22 posted on 11/01/2005 8:57:42 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Rosemont
I can't believe Sarkozy is French.

Does Sarkozy sound like a French name?

23 posted on 11/01/2005 10:16:06 PM PST by PAR35
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To: All

Check out this French website with details. File on the left side "Jihad in France". http://trans.voila.fr/voila?systran_lp=fr_en&systran_id=Voila-fr&systran_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.france-echos.com%2Factualite.php%3Fcle%3D3331


24 posted on 11/01/2005 10:53:33 PM PST by anglian
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To: ncountylee

The Muslims are revolting.


25 posted on 11/02/2005 8:00:22 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey hey ho ho Andy Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

You said it. They stink on ice!


26 posted on 11/02/2005 2:59:46 PM PST by America_Right (I serve the cause of freedom. What do you do? -SECDEF Heller from "24")
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To: Last Dakotan

Like the Borg do?


27 posted on 11/03/2005 3:36:03 PM PST by XenaLee
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