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US Army chaplain convicted of sodomy, sentenced to five years in prison [Prirst]
AP via observer ^ | November 02, 2005

Posted on 11/01/2005 9:05:29 PM PST by ncountylee

BAMBERG, Germany (AP) - A US Army chaplain was sentenced yesterday to five years in prison after pleading guilty at his court-martial to three counts of forcible sodomy against enlisted men.

Capt Gregory Arflack, 44, a Roman Catholic priest serving as a chaplain with the 279th Base Support Battalion, also admitted three counts of committing an indecent acts, two of fraternisation with enlisted service members, and one count of conduct unbecoming an officer.

Judge US Army Col R Peter Masterton ordered him dismissed from the Army and that he forfeit all benefits in addition to the prison term to be served at Ft Leavenworth, Kansas. Arflack showed no emotion as the sentence was read out.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Germany
KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; chaplain; dontaskdontsodomize; gaysinthemilitary; homosexualagenda; homosexuals

1 posted on 11/01/2005 9:05:30 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

I'm pretty sure that's not how you give the blessing.


2 posted on 11/01/2005 9:07:11 PM PST by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but not as often as it should be.)
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To: RichInOC

Punishment is quicker without a Bishop involved.


3 posted on 11/01/2005 9:10:03 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Gays in the military won't cause a problem, eh?


4 posted on 11/01/2005 9:11:52 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ncountylee

Levenworth is hard time.Deserves life.


5 posted on 11/01/2005 9:14:29 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: ncountylee

It's late, I'm tired, and only a Free Republic novice.....but isn't there a way, and isn't it time to Freep the Pope. These stories are really making me sick and mad!

Sue in VA


6 posted on 11/01/2005 9:15:15 PM PST by WSue601
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To: ncountylee

I've heard of preists abusing choirboys, but doing soldiers? That dude's got some brass balls.


7 posted on 11/01/2005 9:17:47 PM PST by EricT.
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To: ncountylee

bump with no comment


8 posted on 11/01/2005 9:17:49 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: ncountylee

I can't figure out how this punishment isn't (excuse the pun) stiffer. This guy absolutely abused his position of trust and undermined morale and one of the few outlets deployed soldiers have for an unbiased ear. The damage done was irreparable. He ought to be doing a much longer tour at Leavenworth.


9 posted on 11/01/2005 9:19:01 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect.)
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To: No Longer Free State

I agree but this puke will have a very long and hard 5 years.


10 posted on 11/01/2005 9:21:16 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

What is a "prirst"???


11 posted on 11/01/2005 9:23:27 PM PST by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: ncountylee
forcible sodomy against enlisted men

How does that happen? He raped them? Where's the fight in these soldiers? Something's missing...

12 posted on 11/01/2005 9:27:30 PM PST by MarineBrat (When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
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To: Jrabbit

Priest when tired


13 posted on 11/01/2005 9:27:53 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Just like the sick navy guy who went there for molesting his daughter... except he got 14 years.


14 posted on 11/01/2005 9:37:47 PM PST by Little_shoe ("For Sailor MEN in Battle fair since fighting days of old have earned the right.to the blue and gold)
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To: ncountylee

Geez - even the priests are doing this kind of stuff while in uniform!!!


15 posted on 11/01/2005 9:45:31 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: ncountylee

Meanwhile, the fed/Guv is pushing faggothood in gov't schools across the Nation, remember that?


16 posted on 11/01/2005 10:43:47 PM PST by Waco
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To: ncountylee

pingout tomorrow.

No "gays" in the military, no "gay" priests - in three D color.

Need any more evidence?


17 posted on 11/01/2005 10:53:10 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: ncountylee
Capt Gregory Arflack, 44, a Roman Catholic priest serving as a chaplain with the 279th Base Support Battalion


"Arflack!"

18 posted on 11/02/2005 12:16:15 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: xzins

Ping


19 posted on 11/02/2005 3:20:04 AM PST by Gamecock (Eternity is a long time to be wrong.)
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To: MarineBrat

Sodomy, as defined by the UCMJ is anal sexual contact, or oral sexual contact. There is not sufficient information in this article to understand what really happened. Let alone the homosexual contact. (I am not defending this guy. Just saying.)


20 posted on 11/02/2005 3:26:36 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: MarineBrat

Maybe they were intoxicated? What about a date rape drug? Possibilities, anyway...

The only other thing I can think of is that he threatened them somehow. How about...I know or I believe that you are gay, soldier, and if you don't go along with this, I will see to it that you are dismissed from the military. See, we don't even know the orientation of the victims here, do we?

I guess he COULD have brandished a weapon at them, like a gun or a knife...


21 posted on 11/02/2005 3:35:14 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: MarineBrat
re :How does that happen? He raped them? Where's the fight in these soldiers? Something's missing...

I agree

22 posted on 11/02/2005 3:37:16 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Constantine XIII
A US Army chaplain was sentenced yesterday to five years in prison after pleading guilty at his court-martial to three counts of forcible sodomy against enlisted men.

Another priest prefers having sex with males.

23 posted on 11/02/2005 4:12:20 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ncountylee

Too bad civilian priest/molesters weren't dealt with the same way. The church would have been much better off today.


24 posted on 11/02/2005 4:17:45 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

He'll have a good ole time in jail, won't he?


25 posted on 11/02/2005 4:17:56 AM PST by mickie
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To: WSue601
isn't it time to Freep the Pope....

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Knock yourself out.

26 posted on 11/02/2005 4:19:45 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Gamecock

I don't believe it's possible for a 44 year old man to "force" sodomy on an enlisted man.

Reading between the lines, I'd say they really felt it was an abuse of a position in authority over the enlisted men. When detected, this was the prosecutor's analysis of what sex in that environment might "mean."

My guess is that those enlisted men didn't struggle at all in this so-called "forcing."

Note that I have in the above not excused the behavior of the chaplain at all.


27 posted on 11/02/2005 4:50:55 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I don't believe it's possible for a 44 year old man to "force" sodomy on an enlisted man.

We don't know what happened, but several scenarios are possible. It's possible the priest tried to force sodomy on soldiers that he suspected or knew were gay and could have threatened them with disclosure if they didn't cooperate. Obviously one of them reported him.

Will he be stripped of his clerical status by the Catholic church?

28 posted on 11/02/2005 5:35:15 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I doubt that he will. Ordination is a sacrament, and there is probably a requirement for some level of rehabilitation.

Obviously, this is the chaplain's first offense (public) of this variety, or he never would have made it through the security clearance background check.

Since it's the first time, the church would have to give him the rehab opportunity.


29 posted on 11/02/2005 5:40:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

BTW, I'm not Catholic, so those are my guesses based on experience.

Also, if the priest had threatened an outing, then it still wouldn't measure up to the way the story was written. "Forcing" sodomy gives the impression of physical overpowering.


30 posted on 11/02/2005 5:42:28 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Since it's the first time, the church would have to give him the rehab opportunity.

If he's allowed to remain a priest, next time he might practice sodomy on a BOY.

31 posted on 11/02/2005 5:44:50 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; Salvation; NYer

Since I'm not catholic, I'm hesitant to give you a definitive answer. My guess is that they'd first attempt some form of rehab.

I've pinged 2 very knowledgeable catholics who probably have a better grasp on this.


32 posted on 11/02/2005 5:53:03 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ncountylee

Throughout the West homosexuals are being given their "Rights" now we see what they do with those "Rights." The Roman Church temporized with a pathological subset and it blew up in their face. Let this be a lesson to other institutions such as government, schools, business etc. In the past these people were not made outcast without reason.


33 posted on 11/02/2005 5:55:18 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: tonycavanagh; MarineBrat

He could have drugged them with date-rape drugs.


34 posted on 11/02/2005 5:56:24 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Prison. Sounds like a Saddamites playground. Tons of avaliable men. Group showers. He'll have a blast.


35 posted on 11/02/2005 6:17:19 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Hank Rearden

This is not a funny subject, but I have to admit that your post is hilarious. LOL! (literally)


36 posted on 11/02/2005 6:23:46 AM PST by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: ncountylee

"...forcible sodomy against enlisted men"

What kind of soldiers are we turning out if some priest can prey on them?


37 posted on 11/02/2005 6:26:04 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: xzins

I think you are right.

To build a bit on your theory, he had his little buddies, and then approached a soldier who didn't play that game. He reported the incident, a 15-6 was held, his buddies were called in and they covered their butts (pun intended) by claimed they were not willing participants.


38 posted on 11/02/2005 7:31:15 AM PST by Gamecock (Eternity is a long time to be wrong.)
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To: Gamecock

I like your analysis better than my own.

He bit off one more than he could chew. (Pun intended. :>)


39 posted on 11/02/2005 7:32:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ncountylee

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Would be interesting to get more of the facts. But even without a single detail more than the above, it is clear as a diamond that:

1. Homosexuals should not be in the military. The rule should be Do ask, and if the answer is wrong, show them the door.

2. Same with the priesthood. Do ask, and if the answer is wrong, show them the door.

The problem is that even some who know that homosexuality is disordered, are afraid of the homosexual activists and their supporters in the MSM (but I repeat myself). The truth is that homosexuality is unnatural, unhealthy, immoral, disordered, and CAN BE HEALED. And those with homosexual desires should not be treated as though they are perfectly normal. Some jobs, positions and so on should NOT be open to homosexuals.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist. Oh, and tell DirtyHarryY2K too. (He's been busy lately.)


40 posted on 11/02/2005 9:55:24 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Okay...I know the guy...two years as my parish priest and baptized my daughter.

Nobody commenting is right as to why. The reason why is control. This guy was a control freak. It was so bad...as an example, people who called him Greg instead of Gregory infuriated him and he let you know it.

As to what happened...not there don't know. My guess...threatened them with some type of action to get what he wanted. Very controling, manipulative, smart individual.

No, I would never trust him again...but hey, I never trusted him before.

I, too agree, five years is not long enough. Not sure about the military...but hope he is not out in 2 for good behavior.


41 posted on 11/07/2005 9:10:40 PM PST by wfepse
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To: wfepse

Thanks for the update. Control is one thing; often womens' spokespeeple say that rape isn't about sex, it's about control. Control is no doubt part of it. But it is also about sex. There are plenty of control freaks who don't rape/sodomize others.

If a man rapes/sodomizes anyone, it IS about sex. The "priest" is a homosexual, who apparently likes to also force men to submit to sodomy. He deserves a much, much worse punishment.


42 posted on 11/07/2005 9:18:48 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: ncountylee

"I went to confession and all I got was a hard time..."


43 posted on 11/07/2005 9:39:56 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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