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Board member to resume testimony in 'intelligent design' trial
Times Leader (Wilkes-Barre, PA) ^ | 02 November 2005 | MARTHA RAFFAELE

Posted on 11/02/2005 3:35:41 AM PST by PatrickHenry

A school board member who was questioned by a federal judge about discrepancies in his testimony on the purchase of "intelligent design" textbooks was expected to return to the witness stand Wednesday.

Dover Area School Board member Alan Bonsell was to undergo redirect questioning by an attorney representing the board in a landmark trial over whether intelligent design can be introduced in high school science classes.

Bonsell testified Monday that he had received an $850 check from fellow board member William Buckingham. The check was made out to Bonsell's father, who volunteered to donate copies of "Of Pandas and People" to the district.

U.S. District Judge John E. Jones III asked Bonsell why he never shared that information in a January deposition when he was repeatedly asked under oath about who was involved in making the donation. Bonsell, who served as the board's president in 2004, said he misspoke. [Note to school board lawyers: When the judge asks your client why he's lying, it's usually not a good sign.]

Buckingham testified Thursday he collected $850 in donations to help purchase the books during a Sunday service at his church.

The board is defending its October 2004 decision to require students to hear a statement about intelligent design before ninth-grade biology lessons on evolution. The statement says Charles Darwin's theory is "not a fact," has inexplicable "gaps," and refers students to the textbook for more information.

Eight families are suing to have intelligent design removed from the biology curriculum because they believe the policy essentially promotes the Bible's view of creation, and therefore violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

Intelligent design supporters argue that natural selection, an element of evolutionary theory, cannot fully explain the origin of life or the emergence of highly complex life forms.

The trial began Sept. 26 and is expected to conclude on Friday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bearingfalsewitness; creationisminadress; crevolist; dover; rwc1tempertantrum
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To: furball4paws

great tagline


141 posted on 11/02/2005 12:54:54 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: js1138

reckon s/he/it's a penetrator/ageant-provocateur?


142 posted on 11/02/2005 12:55:55 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

I personally think most creationists are phony. It's a scam to control people and lighten their wallets without breaking laws. With luck you don't even have to pay taxes.


143 posted on 11/02/2005 12:58:25 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

well... I think of Creationist Movements in much the same way I think of Leftist Movements: The *leadership* is phoney, a bunch of power/money-grubbing liars, thugs, and pimps; The *grass-roots* are sincere, but dangerously ignorant.


144 posted on 11/02/2005 1:03:58 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: King Prout

I'm sure this is true of big organizations like AIG and DI. They probably laugh at their customers while counting their money.


145 posted on 11/02/2005 1:06:56 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: longshadow

Perhaps he's running for school board?


146 posted on 11/02/2005 1:12:35 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: js1138

I am inclined to suspect this of all "movements" - including the conservative "movement".

it is my baseline assumption that movement leaders consider their followers to be "suckers".

This assumption can be confirmed or falsified by empirical evidence.

So far as I can tell, NO movement is entirely free of this, and few movements are not dominated by this.

And so... my contempt for "groupthink" and "identity politics" and "movements" grows ever more set.


147 posted on 11/02/2005 1:13:08 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: js1138
I'm sure this is true of big organizations like AIG and DI. They probably laugh at their customers while counting their money.

It seems to be true for the Institute for Creation Research:

As a missionary organization, ICR is funded by God's people. The great majority of its income is provided by individual donors who desire to proclaim God's truth about origins. We invite you to join this key group of supporters.

Gifts can be designated for research, the graduate school, seminars, or any specific part of the ICR ministry. All others will be used where most needed. We pledge to use them wisely and with integrity. As a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization, your donations are tax exempt.

Source: Scroll down to: Can I donate to ICR?.

148 posted on 11/02/2005 1:15:57 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: js1138

Well, Dembski's Filtre shows no essential difference between RWC1, Bonsell, & Buckingham.


149 posted on 11/02/2005 1:18:06 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Quantum entangled?


150 posted on 11/02/2005 1:21:00 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: King Prout

Note that "Sendero Luminoso" manages quite well without having the words: "people's" or "movement" or "democratic" or "front" in their name.


151 posted on 11/02/2005 1:21:49 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry

ICR are the guys who fear Darwinism leads to Capitalism.


152 posted on 11/02/2005 1:23:00 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

splitters!


153 posted on 11/02/2005 1:23:06 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

besides, the name "Shining Path" references directly the old Maoist/Marxist populism, so calling it the "People's Democratic Front of the Shining Path Movement" would be a bit redundant, no?


154 posted on 11/02/2005 1:26:42 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
ICR are the guys who fear Darwinism leads to Capitalism.

Darwin's Influence on Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism. ICR links Darwin to good ol' capitalism.

Well, at least they don't pay taxes.

155 posted on 11/02/2005 1:26:46 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm


156 posted on 11/02/2005 1:33:30 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: All
WARNING: Click on this link to scientific information only if you're over 18, and NOT the sensitive type:
What unique organ is found only in mammals, but not in fish, amphibians, reptiles, or birds?.
157 posted on 11/02/2005 1:46:45 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: RightWingNilla
The plaintiff's stomachs are being grilled in Hell. </Bob-mode>
158 posted on 11/02/2005 1:48:56 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: RightWingNilla
103 is something to see and it's still there for now. Gives you a flavor.
159 posted on 11/02/2005 1:52:02 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Figure A has an intriguing little yellow pop-up tag in my browser. Something to do with Hox genes.
160 posted on 11/02/2005 2:01:28 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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