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Senate's 'Gang of 14' Fractures Over Alito
AP ^ | 11/2/5 | JESSE J. HOLLAND

Posted on 11/02/2005 3:46:29 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON - The 14 centrists who averted a Senate breakdown over judicial nominees last spring are showing signs of splintering on President Bush's latest nominee for the Supreme Court.

That is weakening the hand of Democrats opposed to conservative judge Samuel Alito and enhancing his prospects for confirmation.

The unity of the seven Democrats and the seven Republicans in the "Gang of 14" was all that halted a major filibuster fight between GOP leader Bill Frist and Democratic leader Harry Reid earlier this year over Bush's nominees.

The early defection of two of the group's Republicans, Mike DeWine of Ohio and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, will give the GOP the upper hand if Democrats decide to attempt a filibuster of Alito, the New Jersey jurist nominated Monday to replace Sandra Day O'Connor.

If Democrats do filibuster, Frist wants to change the Senate rules to eliminate the delaying tactic — something the centrist group blocked in May.

"People like Lindsey Graham and I, who were part of that group, I think you can bet we'll be willing to vote to change the rules of the Senate so that we do not have a filibuster," DeWine said only hours after Alito was announced.

The centrist Democrats plan to urge their Republican colleagues at the group's meeting on Thursday to withhold judgment, since Alito's nomination is not even officially at the Senate yet. The defection of even two members of the group — which decided earlier in the year to support filibusters only in 'extraordinary circumstances' — would virtually ensure Frist would ultimately win a showdown.

"The truth of the matter is that it's way too early to talk about extraordinary circumstances," said Sen. Ben Nelson (news, bio, voting record), D-Neb., a founding member of the group. "I'm not hearing any of my colleagues talk about it, and I'd rather not hear any of my colleagues on the other side talk about it as well."

The loss of Graham and DeWine makes the "Gang of 14" less influential.

Republicans hold 55 seats in the Senate, and while confirmation requires a simple majority, it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster.

However, Frist needs only a simple majority — 51 votes — to eliminate the stalling tactic.

That means he needs two members of the centrist group to join the rest of the GOP to make his goal. With a 50-vote tie in the Senate, Vice President Dick Cheney would cast the tie-breaking vote for the Republicans and Alito could be confirmed with majority support.

Bush announced Alito on Monday following the failed nomination of White House counsel Harriet Miers, who was undermined by conservatives.

The 55-year-old Alito — who has served for 15 years on the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals after being a government lawyer and a U.S. attorney — got rave reviews by the Republicans he met on Wednesday.

The Senate's No. 2 Republican, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, called Alito a "very, very impressive intellect and a very well-qualified nominee." Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas added, "Unless something very different comes out that we don't know about, I certainly would intend to support him."

After a brief flurry of filibuster talk immediately following Alito's nomination, Senate Democrats now are taking a wait-and-see stance.

"I don't know a single Democrat who is saying that it's time for a filibuster, that we should really consider it," said Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, after meeting with Alito Wednesday. "It's way too early."

Nelson said he had received assurances from Alito "that he wants to go to the bench without a political agenda, that he is not bringing a hammer and chisel to hammer away and chisel away on existing law."

Durbin said that the judge never refused to answer any of his questions — as Miers and John Roberts had during their private interviews — and that Alito told him he saw a right to privacy in the Constitution, one of the building blocks of the court's landmark Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision.

Alito said when it came to his dissent on Planned Parenthood v. Casey, a case in which the 3rd Circuit struck down a Pennsylvania law that included a provision requiring women seeking abortions to notify their spouses, "he spent more time worrying over it and working on that dissent than any he had written as a judge," Durbin recounted.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; alito; gangof14; judgealito; rinos
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1 posted on 11/02/2005 3:46:29 PM PST by SmithL
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To: upchuck

Ping aling


2 posted on 11/02/2005 3:47:20 PM PST by Peach (The Dems enabled Able Danger. 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: SmithL
CONSTITUTIONAL OPTION!
3 posted on 11/02/2005 3:48:06 PM PST by doug from upland (David Kendall -- protecting the Clintons one lie at a time)
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To: SmithL

I still don't trust this RINO maggot Graham.


4 posted on 11/02/2005 3:50:50 PM PST by lormand (Dead people vote DemocRAT)
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To: SmithL
"I don't know a single Democrat who is saying that it's time for a filibuster, that we should really consider it," said Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, after meeting with Alito Wednesday. "It's way too early."

Translation:
We have to wait and see if we can dig up any dirt on Alito first.
Alito jaywalked = Dimocrat filibuster

5 posted on 11/02/2005 3:52:37 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: SmithL

Good news.

AP's title is a bit much. I wouldn't have called this a "fracture" since the 14 were hardly a solid unit. More a "separation" of a heterogeneous group.


6 posted on 11/02/2005 3:53:46 PM PST by Kay
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To: Peach

Lindsay Graham is finally regrowing the set he had during the Xlinton impeachment. I'm sure McStain will wait until the very last minute to announce his position so he can attract as much attention to himself as possible.


7 posted on 11/02/2005 3:54:03 PM PST by KevinB
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To: SmithL

DeWine has stopped whining. I wonder when Voinovich will start crying again.


8 posted on 11/02/2005 3:56:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

McCain is the biggest media whore I've ever seen. He was on Imus wearing some idiotic hat. He'll do anything for the left wing press.


9 posted on 11/02/2005 3:59:35 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: SmithL

Geez, how many times can you say "centrist" in one article?


10 posted on 11/02/2005 4:01:06 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: KevinB

I think Lindsay Graham's RINO behavior seriously damaged his reputation. Now he likely sees a chance to rehabilitate his reputation. He was first out of the box this time, even before DeWine. He could have stalled and said he needed time to examine the candidate, but he didn't.

The signs are all positive so far.


11 posted on 11/02/2005 4:02:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: outofhere2

I wonder when McCain is going to explode. Or implode. Either one would be interesting.


12 posted on 11/02/2005 4:03:33 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SmithL
The centrist Democrats plan to urge their Republican colleagues at the group's meeting on Thursday to withhold judgment, since Alito's nomination is not even officially at the Senate yet.

They better first take care of their dickheaded leader Reid who pulled a B.S. stunt so he didn't have to discuss Alito...

Get your own house in order first you elitist loser PRIX before ya comin bitchin' and moanin' to us!

We're about a razor's hair away from nukin' your asses!

13 posted on 11/02/2005 4:05:57 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: SmithL
Durbin said that the judge never refused to answer any of his questions — as Miers and John Roberts had during their private interviews — and that Alito told him he saw a right to privacy in the Constitution, one of the building blocks of the court's landmark Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision. Can we trust Durbin to hear and report things straight? Even better, once confirmed, Alito won't be bound by these imaginary 'assurances' will he? Much like Souter wasn't, I guess...
14 posted on 11/02/2005 4:06:17 PM PST by voletti (To go where no man has gone before....)
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To: SmithL
The anti-Miers crowd told everyone that Bush should send up a high-octane conservative to the Senate and damn the gang of 14.

The pro-Miers crowd said that an Alito would be filibustered and the gang would keep such a candidate from getting a vote.

Would anyone on the pro-Miers side be willing to 'fess up and admit that they were wrong?

15 posted on 11/02/2005 4:06:22 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Right Wing Assault

McStain won't explode or implode. He's a legend in his own mind and feels that if he continues to give a sop to the MSM, he's invincible. When he goes down in flames he'll trot out the Hitlery line of a "vast right wing conspiracy" and that its using the "tactics of personal destruction" to taint a Vietnam "hero". McStain should be locked in a padded room where he can't hurt anyone (or himself).


16 posted on 11/02/2005 4:07:02 PM PST by DustyWestTexas
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To: outofhere2
McCain is the biggest media whore I've ever seen Really? Schumer sure could give him avoidable competition...
17 posted on 11/02/2005 4:07:35 PM PST by voletti (To go where no man has gone before....)
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To: SmithL; dead; LS; Miss Marple; AppyPappy
...averted a Senate breakdown ....

AP: Editorials Masked As News
We Think About the News
So You Don't Have To!

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG
18 posted on 11/02/2005 4:09:25 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: outofhere2
McCain is the biggest media whore I've ever seen.

Agreed, but damned if Chuck Schumer doesn't give McCain a hard run for his money. Can you imagine both of them walking into a news conference at the same time with only one mike available? Chaos.

19 posted on 11/02/2005 4:09:59 PM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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To: lormand

Never trust a RINO. Ever.


20 posted on 11/02/2005 4:11:16 PM PST by JesseJane (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. (More than a typing exercise))
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