Skip to comments.Fight Back, Mr. President: Shouldn't the president defend his honor?
Posted on 11/04/2005 1:55:54 PM PST by jmc1969
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And on top of that, it is demoralizing to be a Bush supporter when he doesn't defend himself.
Your back should be "You're back". Don't you think your junior high education is a terrible thing to let go to waste as you have?
What does appear at the top these days other than making it to bed time?
And was the media that much weaker back in the days of Reagan? Duh? Besides if you dont attempt to control the bully pulpit you are going to be playing defense all the time (like right now). How many points do you see scored on defense. Relatively few.
If the White House doesnt try and get its message out there is 100% chance that it wont. Let him try. The media is so out of touch they could actually air something that they think will turn off the public when in fact its what they want to hear. For example when it came out that we had secret CIA prisons around the world, media raised cain but most people, even in polls thought it made sense and they had no problem with it.
Who has the weak grip on reality? You got to play the game to have a chance. You cant sit back and allow the Dems and the media to set the agenda. You make provactive statements, you introduce new programs, you challenge the Dem leaders, in essence you do something to create NEWS, you don't just make 40 speech of the year on WOT.
You also do a series of one-on-one interviews with White House reporters and network anchors (after all do you think these network primadonas are going to turn down a chance to show off how smart and attractive they are...there is a reason they choose to operate in front of a camera rather than do a real job). You play to the medias vanity. Hold more prime time news conferences. Make your important point as a statement at the beginning and then take the questions. The more obnoxious the questions, the more sympatatically the average viewer will listen to his responses.
You also go on the road more and do tons of interviews with local media in red state markets with Dem Senators up for election. You dont sit in Crawford Tx with an old hag Sheehan attempting to get the world to believe she was controlling your every move.
Also since you control the reins of government you can do things that will change the story or at least step all over the Dems story of the day. Make the bird flu announcement, start a Justice Department Investigation of CIA leaks that were attempts to hurt the WHite House and participate in Kerry's presidential campaign. Jawbone the oil companies about gas prices. Tell them that if they dont invest in new refinary capacity they will face windfall profit taxes. Find something to veto and say why, then challenge the Dems to overide. Do enough and then the story will become the President is attempting to change the story. Continue on and eventually it will be what the president is saying that day.
Why see the world in black and white. Republicans are boring in their presentation and the media is biased against them to begin with. Why not accept both and then do something to force the media to make concessions. Leak news to reporters who give you a fair chance. Those that dont listen can then explain to their bosses why they were scooped.
Besides Im not convinced that the media is biased so much in favor of liberalism as they are in favor of action to solve problems including government action. Since Bush is a big government conservative he ought to be able to get a fair hearing if he could make what he's trying to do a bigger story than the Dems story about scandal, blah blah.
We dont operate in a vacuum. For more than fifty percent of the US, all they have to see is a whining or foaming at the mouth liberal on TV and they will vote for whoever else is running. Besides only about 30 house seats out of 345 are even competitive in a normal year. Republican officeholds get elected with their finger up their ass.
Well, I was reading through your multiple posts trying to condense them all for a single answer when I came upon your statement above. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You think the media is "in favor of action to solve problems"?!?! The media IS the problem. How could it possibly be that you've missed how biased, flawed and false their reporting has been regarding Iraq. How could it possibly be that you missed how wrong their dire and panicked reporting on the situation in New Orleans during Katrina was? How could it be that you've completely missed the fact that the media continues to report the Plame incident like Karl Rove outed an undercover CIA agent when that obviously is not the case? The media isn't searching for solutions. They are dedicated to convincing the world that Bush and the United States are THE sources of evil and misery in the world. Have you noticed the scant coverage on the Muslim riots in Europe. They've been going on for over a week now. It's chaos. Compare the coverage of those riots to the coverage of Katrina. Within 5 days of one of the worst natural disasters to hit this country in its history, an entire city of several million was completely evacuated with very few deaths despite the fact that the mayor and governor were criminally incompetent. Yet, in those 5 days of wall to wall coverage, George Bush and the United States were held up as completely incompetent and worse than a third world nation with regard to disaster response. We were told we are lead by a "racist" government that purposely slowed rescue efforts in order to kill black people. We were all declared guilty of neglect and abandonment by a media bent on convincing the world the US is bad. And now, after 9 straight days of religious rioting that is spreading throughout Europe, our media is just starting to question whether or not it might be a sign of deeper problems in the Utopia known as Europe. "Action to solve problems" Good Grief.
If you truly believe what you stated in the comment above, there is no point in responding to any of your other comments, because your fundamental grasp of reality is so flawed it is almost beyond repair.
And that's about all anybody can say on this sad subject.
Excuse me what substance is there to asking whether there was too much whailing going on at DU? Since I havent even visited that site much less been a participant there, I think your own statement just proves you are insufferable moron. I dont know whether you are lefty or righty but you definitely are a loon.
So you hide behind an attack on the media to forgo dealing with any of the suggestions that Republicans and Bush could be doing to get our message out. No wonder all you can do is scream about bias and hide under a rock crying the sky is falling, the sky is falling and there is nothing we can do about it.
Besides in your example, Rove did out an undercover agent of the CIA. She may not have been under deep cover at the time and there is no proof that she was in fact covert but she was an undercover agent and Rove doesnt deny having told several people of her identity so you doth protest too much. You are just afraid that simpled minded people that see the world in black and white like yourself would hear that and automatically believe that something criminal or unethical was done. The average American isn't as dumb as you and the Liberals believe they are.
Did you ever read the book Bias by Bernie Goldberg or whoever who was a former network reporter. He agrees with me. Deal with your paranoia. I doubt that Bush and the administration are so disparing of their own ability to mold the news and promote their agenda. If you truly think things are so bad, you might just as well crawl under a rock and sob while you await the Second Coming. For crybabies like yourself, its all over.
Sigh..another personal attack. How insufferably left of you. Tell you what slick, why not take your tinfoil ensconced micro brain outside and play a fast game of hide and go fu*k yourself?
Knock off the personal attacks.
Afraid so. I just hope Rove and the others that do this for a living haven't accepted the "chicken little" beliefs of some around here that believe nothing can be done...so they do nothing.
You better offer the evidence of this to Fitzgerald because after two years and millions of dollars investigating exactly that, he has come to a different conclusion than you have. Face it, you do not live in the real world. You are forced to make things up to support your opinions. An opinion based on fantasy is as useless as it is irrelevant. Life must be hard for you. It must be frustrating to live a life in which your input and opinions are consistently ignored. It is unfortunate for you, that most of the world does not live in the universe you created. Conversely, the real world seems to be doing just fine with you existing outside the fringe of reality. I guess both sides will just have to get used to the arrangement.
I too am happy you two have found each other. Together, you just might be able to convince the rest of the world that the mainstream media composed almost entirely of members who freely admit their allegiance with the democrat party is just itching to support Republican causes.
But I'm not going to hold my breath.
By being a terrible communicator--I'm not talking about his style, I'm talking about his unwillingness to even try to communicate--Bush has made his own bed and it's lousy. Only he can straighten it out.
"Wish we knew the answer. 24 hour news, internet and boring days make everyone want to pile on Bush. "
The bully pulpit works when there is a serious national issue. Otherwise it just becomes a shouting match and the smear tactics and preponderance of the media will prevail. Bush can't fight 24/7 news nonsense, and I like his tactic of ignoring them as much as possible.
In fact I'd like for the republican talking heads and congressmen (other than for personal defense like Delay) to try an experiment. Refuse to go on any news show -even Fox - I'm tired of the media talk circles with just one token conservative in the bunch, and their saying they're being fair.
Make the media talk just to themselves and watch them implode even faster. They will sound ridiculous without any counterpoints from our side.They might even be forced to make some of our points for us. If Bush is going to turn the other cheek, let's all do it. I'm not afraid of the media. I don't know of any president they have ever elected.
My major disappointment has been with Bush not using his veto pen especially against CFR. Other than that I love the guy. Our country needed a guy just like him in these times.
It must be a bitter experience not being able to read. I was very careful in my use of words. You are not. Plame did serve as an undercover agent. She was employed by a cover firm for the CIA. I did not say she was "covert" and I did not say she was serving as a spy overseas. Words have meanings. And by the way, Fitzgerald specifically mentioned that he did not reach any conclusion as to whether she was covert or covered by the statute in question. Not coming to a conclusion and not charging someone under a statute does not equate to concluding tht she was not covert. Fitzgerald could have concluded that she was a covert agent covered by the statute and still not indicted anyone for any number of reasons. Personally I dont think she was covert and I dont think she was covered by the statute...but that is not what I said. I said Rove outed (identified) an undercover agent of the CIA.
By being a terrible communicator--I'm not talking about his style, I'm talking about his unwillingness to even try to communicate--BushThat's true. It has nothing to do with his abilities. He is forthright and honorable, and those qualities come through when he takes command of the debate, as he did after 9/11. But he has surrounded himself with advisors who believe the best way to win is to give the RATS 70% of what they want and then make wishy-washy statements about why the other 30% is important. Maybe his father has too much influence over him. I don't know. But I blame Rove. I always have. I've never believed that Rove was the "genius" he's always been declared to be. Look at the 2004 election. Yes Bush won, and won big, but even so I believe it was much closer than it could have been and was much more of a melodramatic campaign than it should have been. Bush should have put that Pepe le'Pue away as easily as Nixon put McGovern away. Instead it was a hard fought run with Pepe getting in some good licks on our president and the "genius" Rove nearly running the campaign aground several times.
That's why I say, as much as the Plame non-story is a pack of leftist-media lies, if it actually did end up unseating Rove, I'd be glad about it.
Kristol is right on this one. Anyone who will not defend himself deserves no defense from others.
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