Skip to comments.Fight Back, Mr. President: Shouldn't the president defend his honor?
Posted on 11/04/2005 1:55:54 PM PST by jmc1969
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These people who claim they support the President cannot wait to kick him when he is down. With friends like these who needs enemies?
Then there's the ultimate trump card - Cheney resigns and Rice is nominated for Vice President.
I didn't put words in your mouth. I asked you a question. One you didn't answer, btw.
I'm with you. There is nothing to be demoralized about.
The past 2 weeks:
A great SC pick in the offing.
Hispanics are stepping forward to back Alito.
Drilling in ANWR approved -- 735,000 new jobs coming.
House passes Bill whacking local govts. on Eminent Domain. Unemployment is down.
Pubbies are finally trimming the budget at Bush's request.
Economy is strong.
Bush asks for strengthened borders.
Things are looking good as long nobody gets stuck on stupid.
Wouldnt hurt if the President got out and carried a little of the fight himself or had his staff do it. He's got the big pully pulpit, we dont.
One Freeper had an idea to highlight a hero, like the one who stopped the car bomber at the Palestine Hotel.
The media will be forced to cover it.
I am one of the biggest Bush fans there is.. and I know fighting msm and polls is just almost impossible. Wish we knew the answer. 24 hour news, internet and boring days make everyone want to pile on Bush.
He needs lots of prayers. I am not going to change how I feel about him. I think everyone thinks they are armchair qbacks.
Bush said he himself was to blame for Katrina.
He called Manslaughter Ted Kennedy a fine Senator.
He let Manslaughter Ted Kennedy have a free will with the first Dept of Education budget--then once Kennedy ballooned it to stratospheric levels, Bush asked for even more money than Kennedy did, even though the RATs shot down Bush's hope for school vouchers.
Bush said he would go after nations that harbor terrorists, yet he lets Iran build the IDEs for Iraq and does nothing about it.
He gave Turkey BILLIONS of dollars after Turkey would not let the 4th Infantry Division enter through Turkey as planned, costing lives of the British and the Americans.
Bush gives $15 billion to Africa, even though we "can't afford" the F-22 and we "can't afford" the military bases.
On and on and on . . . In short, Bush is Mr. Nice Guy in an arena where nice guys finish last. The RATs are waging a brutal frontal assault and all out war against Bush and the Republicans, yet Bush chooses to "reach across the aisle", even though that means getting one's arm amputated by the RATs, and Bush chooses to "have bi-partisan support" for agenda, even though that means a leftist, Marxist agenda.
Bush is too nice. He does not have the focused vision that Reagan had to do what is right for the nation, and screw what the RATs think. The RATs are anti-American opportunists who care only about their own power, not the nation's future--you know that and I know that. Why doesn't George Bush know that?
Kristol needs to take his own advice....but then he'd have to critisize McLame. That's never gonna happen. So, he'll just continue to throw his little spit balls and Fox and the MSM will continue to make him relevent.
New White House spokesperson would help.....
Bush is NOT "hiding in foreign countries". Where do you get your news, anyway?
I believe W has stayed pretty close to his campaign promises. You are the one who had hoped for someone else. Bush is what he is.
Absolutely agree --- a new WH press secretary is needed. And fast.
Never said I agreed with everything he does. Some of you new posters seem to want miracles from this man.
Kristol is a fool - But the above comments are dead on - The WH (and RNC) have completely dropped the ball in the PR war regarding the GWOT - They have been pathetically lazy while at the same time asking our soldiers to fight 24/7.
DevSix, you are a smart man with good insight. Exactly what can the WH and RNC do with regard to the PR war and Iraq that they aren't already doing? Remember, they don't own the media.
President Bush is not afraid of anything! Go away -- you are a PAIN IN THE ASS!
Did you happen to listen to Rush today. You sound like what he spoke of today about why the libs in congress were doing stupid things like taking the senate into closed session, etc. It was to pull the wool over the eyes of their stupid base. To make it appear that they were doing something.
In the 1988 Presidential debates, Bernhard Shaw (I think) asked Dukakis about his opposition to the death penalty by phrasing a hypothetical wherein Kitty was raped and murdered, and wouldn't Mike sing a different tune under those circumstances?
Dukakis's milquetoast response branded him as a limp-wristed, turn-the-other-cheek pacifist.
Bush had better watch out his can't-we-all-just-get-along approach to the Democrats doesn't get him a place next to Mikey.
I think he should take heart in the excellent Supreme Court pick, and know his base is behind him now that he's returned to his promise.
The "Miers episode" did more good for Bush than harm. It reminded him that he has a conservative mandate and that his base is willing to go to the mat and do what it takes to win.
I think it also sent the same clear message to the Republicans in the Senate. At least Lindsey Graham seems to have gotten the message.
The classic line of one who has nothing substantive to say. Kind of like shouting Nazi. Totally berift of thought.
Bush hasn't fought for any of his judicial picks yet. This would be a good time to start.
Part of the problem is the WEAK Republican Senate leadership. Frist's response to Harry Reid, himself a weakling, was pathetic.
If the White House were to respond to every charge the media put up against him, that would be all they would have time to do.
No, Billy K, it is still a ticking time bomb in the coming intertgenerational war that needs to be dealt with. President Bush had the guts to take on a "third rail" topic and at least open it for discussion.
The only way, IMHO, to resolve SocSec is to pass a bill first ensuring that everyone over 55 is protected (if they want to stay in) in present system and that will shut them up while the rest of us figure out how to fix the medium to longer term crisis.
You need to realize that if Bush continues to slide in the polls he will lose his effectiveness with our allies, with the American people, with the Republicans in Congress. He will also lose the fear of his enemies...that has started already. I've never seen more disrespect from the opposition party as demonstrated this week.
You mean the cooked BS polls by foreign polling companies that sample more Democrats than Republicans, thus skewing the polls???
You are right. I followed the Bolton nomination closely. The Republicans were a sorry, weak mess on that one too.
The media may be losing readership, but the Internet is picking up readership. Do you look at the Yahoo homepage, AP and Reuters, that's what people see.
You believe the CR-AP and Arab-owned Rat-turds?
"The Republicans were a sorry, weak mess on that one too."
Unfortunately, the Republican Senate includes cry baby Voinobitch and Chuck "please love me CNN, I am really like McCain " Hagel
Ad's which re-inform the American public about the need to stay the course in Iraq - Ad's that begin to reestablish why we moved on Iraq and that removing Saddam had more to do then just about WMD's (the WH and RNC have allowed the MSM to rewrite history with regard to the WMD equation of the war in Iraq).
On the WMD issue point out the simple fact that now at least we "know"! - This is a huge fact that is continually sweep under the rug - We now know for certain that Saddam can now longer pose a threat via the WMD equation (be it from his threats of a bluff or not).
There were over a dozen solid reasons we moved on Iraq - Finding out the certainty / existence / nonexistence of WMD's was only one of those dozen reasons. Reexplain this fact to the American public.
We can nuke the DEM's and MSM with facts regarding the GWOT (which includes Iraq). The RNC and WH just need to be proactive and work! Moving on Iraq was essential to the long term success of the GWOT. Establish this fact with the American public.
Sure it won't always be easy considering the MSM influence. However, what we are asking of our soldiers 24/7 is FAR from easy as well - But I see no intensity out of the WH or RNC. None. And I find that pathetic.
With all this said, I still firmly believe (know) that the majority of the American people fully stand behind the GWOT (including Iraq) - The MSM silly weighted polls are meaningless (to a degree). However, the lack of intensity out of the WH and RNC still burns me up with regard to setting the record straight concerning the GWOT.
The vast majority of americans support him. (lying media polls not withstanding.) His tactic seems to be- let others defend him while he stays above the gutter wars. I don't like it either, but can any of you possibly deny that it works?
He placed Roberts on the SCOTUS and Alito is sure to follow. He is succeeding in bringing democracy to Iraq. He is much more help than hinderance to other Republican candiates, i.e. increasing majorities at all levels.
The media can sure make it sound as though he is in trouble. ("Can Bush rebound? With slipping poll numbers due to Katrina response, Iraq quagmire, Harriet Meiers fiasco, Libby indictment, Delay indictment, Frist investigation, etc....") But you have to know that the White House is doing its own polling and if the numbers were really that bad they would change tactics.
But he's not attending to them either. The President has the biggest bully pulpit in the world. He doesnt have to do the negative work of defending himeself but he should be out there daily in a strong positive way pushing his agenda. Where has he spent his time recently? Touring New Orleans four or five times to make up for not watching TV, telling us that Ms Miers was the best qualified person in the US that he could find to nominate to the Supreme COurt, to say he was sorry to receive Scotter Libbys resignation, to say he cant comment on Rove because there is an ongoing investigation, talking about taking people's tax deductions away from them to come up with a simpler tax, and talking about Bird Flu (half dont believe its an issue and will blame Bush regardless of what he does, other half are scared shitless about it and immediately tune him out). DOesnt sound like a positive program to me.
Well if the President went to all these safe places where we are doing so much good in Iraq you can bet the press would be there with him. And as long as they werent hit by a missle or IED, the reports would be pretty positive. The press would have to cover it otherwise they wouldnt have any thing to give their network to account for their time that day.
Bush needs a new spokesperson. Sorry Scott, but you're not getting the job done with your limp wrist treatement of the White House press crops...
Well how did it differ from the other forty or so such WOT speeches? News is that, its new(s).
Donald Rumsfeld for White House Press Secretary?
Karen Hughes is magnificent. Where's she been?
Other than WOT he never had more than just a few percent over 50%. That is far from a vast majority and its clear that his support is well below that now.
You say you are stating facts? What facts? Give me some facts to back up statements like "insurgents continue to pour across the border from Syria." How many? Is it more or less than one year ago? How many are Syrian? More importantly, is the Syrian government more or less stable today than it was one year ago? How about the Iranian government? Don't give me MSM talking points. Lets discuss actual facts.
"You need to realize that if Bush continues to slide in the polls he will lose his effectiveness with our allies, with the American people, with the Republicans in Congress."
And you need to give up your faith in phony media polls. Polls that weight democrats 50% and Republicans at 38%. If you believe these polls, you are quite literally ignorant. Educate yourself beyond the media storyline. If Bush made decisions based on phony media polls and popularity contests he'd be proclaiming the therapeutic wonders of cross dressing and the health benefits of late term abortions.
"I would have preferred that the ambassador remind our Spanish friends that the US has an American Service member Protection Act and will enforce it. Or advise them that we will increase economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on their government if they don't void the warrants. Promises of enduring friendship didn't cut it with me."
I think it is safe to say you know nothing about international diplomacy. What is said in public usually has nothing to do with what is stated in private.
"That's weakness. That's President Bush in November of 2005. I want it to change"
Again, you might call it name calling, but that does not change the fact that you are in many respects ignorant about what you are talking about. Bush hasn't changed. You are spending too much time listening to the media.
You say that after Bush presented Miers as the best qualified person he could find to nominate to the Supreme Court. I dont know if the WH is doing any polling but Rove must be too busy with his lawyer to be interpreting the results for the PResident.
I'm not a Bush supporter. I guess that makes me a right wing conservative, and you a big government, left leaning Republican.
Yes, and so is President Bush.
I am ashamed for him.
Tip of the iceberg. We knew what we were going to get, but we had to choose in '00. He is a moderate, no question about that. His power is surprisingly limited. If we wanted a bully pulpit guy, we could have elected Kerry; we could elect Hillary in '08 for the same reason. Maybe we should be glad we have somebody that doesn't need to beat us every day with his bully pulpit like Clinton did. So he is not a huge intellect and never read Cicero and never heard of Scipio: Americans don't go for that kind of thing anyway. Rather than cutting him down, shouldn't we be looking ahead? We will have to go through this election process again very, very soon, and it doesn't look like anybody is getting up for the job ahead. Time is wasting.
The Republican leadership except for DeLay seems weak. Why was Sandy Burglar let off the hook so easily? Why was the Rockefeller memo not exposed to the degree it should've been? Why the "my feelings are hurt" defense to the Reid/ Dick Turban temper tantrum? Why not point out that Hillary, Kerry, Lieberman... were AT LEAST as hawkish as GWB on Iraq. There is no reason to be afraid of the Dems and their angry, abortionist, judicial activist, race baiting, socialist, Gay Left base. The fact that Howard Dean and S.F. Democrat Nancy Pelosi can put the majority party on the defensive is embarrassing.
My recollection of the past to presidential elections is quite different from yours. In fact it seems to me that he won them both by doing exactly what he is doing now. The darn weakling.
While Clinton obviously went over-board with the self-promotion, I think the Bush White House could at least learn some lessons from him: develop a talking point, and hammer it home until is begins to resonate with the people. And it isn't valid to simply throw up our hands and say, "Well, the media is against him." The media was against Reagan, too, but Reagan had the ability to talk over the heads of the news media, directly to the people. Bush has shown flashes of brilliance and eloquence when he speaks directly to the American people. He's not as much of a doofus in the ability to express himself that some of his supporters seem to believe. He has the skills, vision, and leadership qualities to win support for his policies. But it isn't happening. It's not an impossible objective, but someone in the White House needs to figure out a way to sharpen their overall PR ability, or Bush's presidency will end up like Truman's -- faintly supported at the end of its term in office, only to regain stature and respect a generation later.
Certainly not Arlen Specter.
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