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Intifada in France
Chronicles Magazine ^ | Friday, November 04, 2005 | Srdja Trifkovic

Posted on 11/04/2005 6:26:58 PM PST by A. Pole

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To: Peace will be here soon

"This may be happening in France, but if it comes to the U.S., it will be met with a different attitude. I am confident of this."

You can count on me. And this is another reason why we need to stamp out socialism in all its insidious forms, when we see it rearing it's ugly head in our country and within our communities.

Man, I hope people in power are paying attention to this. Haven't heard a peep out of Congress or the White House on this issue; and this has been going on for nearly two weeks!

Even John F-ng Kerry isn't talking about this, and he's as French as you can get for a Blue Blooded American. You'd think he'd be wailing, pulling out his hair, gnashing his teeth and rending cloth over this!


51 posted on 11/04/2005 7:02:57 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: A. Pole
If this gets bigger, and it will in france or elsewhere, the left's arguments will be more rapidly diminished and we can get on with this war.

We win when muslim extremist act stupid. Thank God for the stupid, they come out even without the need of decoy or rabbit to draw them out of their dark damp caves of self hatred.
52 posted on 11/04/2005 7:03:41 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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To: lizma

How true.

Or,,maybe Allah is really a woman?

Uh-Oh, I am now a target of some wacko MOOslim extremist. Thank God I live in Texas, have a gun (or two) and can shoot, LEGALLY.


53 posted on 11/04/2005 7:03:52 PM PST by austinaero
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To: A. Pole
"Its result has been stated with haughty arrogance by Tariq Ramadan, professor of Islamic studies at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and a grandson of Hasan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood."

This was the clown that Notre Dame wanted to hire so that he could poison the mind of young Americans, if I remember correctly.

Yep, I did remember correctly.

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/255

There is lots at the link above, including:

Among those who have leapt to Ramadan's defense is Scott Appleby, a board member of the Catholic Theologoical Union and director of the Joan B. Kroc Center for International Peace Studies at Notre Dame which offered Tariq Ramadan the professorship.
54 posted on 11/04/2005 7:04:10 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: lormand

At Tours.......

At Vienna (twice)

At Lepanto (naval)

And my favorite, the King of Asturias refusal to be conquered by the Moors.

714-1492.

I wish I had seen the Louvre.


55 posted on 11/04/2005 7:04:22 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: austinaero
In short, and ironically, the Muzz (yes, that's a derogatory term) use the singular (unheard of under Islam) freedoms of western democracies like France to undermine their host countries and claim independent enclaves within them. The are attempting to do the same in the US, limited thus far to loud bellyaching about profiling and discrimination.
56 posted on 11/04/2005 7:04:54 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: lormand

Of course, you are right. I stand corected. But don't forget Lepanto - much later but a threat from a different direction.


57 posted on 11/04/2005 7:05:19 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Joan B. Kroc,,of the McDonalds Krocs???


58 posted on 11/04/2005 7:05:25 PM PST by austinaero
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To: luvbach1

Well, I think Dearborn, MI has their hands full with a group of them.


59 posted on 11/04/2005 7:06:19 PM PST by austinaero
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To: A. Pole
French-born North African males.

Whatever the hell that is....

Many French-born Arab girls in the ghettos resort to wearing hijab as the only protection

It took five paragraphs to cough up "Arab."

The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community within France, coupled with the cultural enfeeblement and demographic decline of the French nation.

Beautifully stated.

60 posted on 11/04/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by quantim (Just be glad Detroit is not in a hurricane zone.)
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To: Paladin2

Charles Martel = Charles the Hammer


61 posted on 11/04/2005 7:08:43 PM PST by born in the Bronx
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To: austinaero

Dearborn used to be Christian MEs chased out of the ME, but is increasingly turning Muzzie.


62 posted on 11/04/2005 7:08:46 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Porterville

When France goes muslim will that be a wake-up call?


63 posted on 11/04/2005 7:09:41 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: A. Pole
"The real cause of the French intifada is the enormous growth, dysfunctionality, and arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrant community."

The truth at last. None of that poor little thugs feel under-appreciated stuff, which is just making excuses for scum.
64 posted on 11/04/2005 7:10:00 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope (The cause of the French intifada is the arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrants)
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To: A. Pole

bttt


65 posted on 11/04/2005 7:10:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: born in the Bronx

Well, it looks like we need to get Tom the Hammer out'a the slammer to save the manor.


66 posted on 11/04/2005 7:11:13 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2

I can't say for sure, but I think it's either Dearborn or somewhere near there that a town is expected to endure the call to prayer siren 5 times a day...voted in by the town council. Sorry, my memory fails me on this one.

Saw this on a t-shirt:
"At least if I get Alzheimer's, I won't have Alzheimer's."

That sums up my memory right about now.


67 posted on 11/04/2005 7:11:30 PM PST by austinaero
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To: A. Pole
The trouble would be ended, various Muslim “community leaders” claimed, if the French authorities accepted that there were de facto no-go areas within the country which should be self-administered. “All we demand is to be left alone,” said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local “emirs” engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

There's a name for this sort of thing. It's called annexation. "We claim this area for the Muslim nation. We rule here. It belongs to us."

That's what the Muslims are doing. Annexing France. Little by little.

68 posted on 11/04/2005 7:12:14 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: domenad
PISTOL PISTOL PISTOL!

Good idea, get three of 'em ;)

69 posted on 11/04/2005 7:12:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Peace will be here soon

I agree. I think it will be quite different if it comes to America.


70 posted on 11/04/2005 7:12:40 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: timsbella
"This reality is light years away from the desire of Gilles Kepel, President Jacques Chirac’s advisor on Islamic affairs, to create “an Andalusia” of multi-denominational tolerance in France."


The Spanish knew what to do with “an Andalusia”. You run them all out and then you fire up an Inquisition to make damn good and sure that you got each and every one of the buggers out of your country. It worked for five hundred years, but we have forgotten the lessons of history.
71 posted on 11/04/2005 7:13:47 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope (The cause of the French intifada is the arrogant self-confidence of the Muslim immigrants)
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To: luvbach1
france won't go muslim, too many racist in france.
72 posted on 11/04/2005 7:13:49 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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To: domenad
I think it's time I finally went and bought a pisol.

If you do; go to the range and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE! Join the NRA, subscribe to Guns & Ammo Magazine, and Shooting Magazine. And PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!

The smell of gunpowder, followed up by the scent of Hoppe's No. 9, makes for a great week-end shoot.

73 posted on 11/04/2005 7:13:54 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Popman
hopefully this will be a wake up call for Britain, Germany and Spain

Now that I think about it, you are absolutely correct. Germany has an employment problem, Britain has a slumping manufacturing sector, and Spain has a new pacifist government. Best case scenario: Germany employs hundreds of thousands building mechanized military products and subsequently re-occupies France. The Brits freak out and start manufacturing a huge air defense. Spain can condemn the violence and build a bridge to the African continent. Win-Win-Win!

74 posted on 11/04/2005 7:14:50 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: A. Pole

Looks like we need a repeat

75 posted on 11/04/2005 7:16:06 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Got anybody in mind? ;-)


76 posted on 11/04/2005 7:19:50 PM PST by sneakers
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To: sneakers

Saudi Arabia?


77 posted on 11/04/2005 7:21:01 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope
Gilles Kepel, President Jacques Chirac’s advisor on Islamic affairs

Let me state that if a government has created a position for an Advisor on Islamic affairs, they will be partitioning land and ceding autonomy in short order. They claim to be "civilized" now. Almost makes one wish that Stalin had run amok for a few decades with France instead of Poland and Czechoslovakia.

78 posted on 11/04/2005 7:22:46 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: A. Pole

This is not funny. Yes, it points out typical weakness on the part of the French government, but what about innocent people? This is ridiculous!


79 posted on 11/04/2005 7:23:26 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: A. Pole

How do you connect a roll with medieval warfare?

What does the battle of Tours (732 AD) and a tasty breakfast food have in common? Well, unless you eat your morning meal with a battle axe or you consume your sausage and eggs while clad in Saracen armor, most would say not much. However, there is an edible connection to the Battle of Tours which should make for some very interesting table conversation. When news of the great victory spread throughout the Frankish countryside, bakers began to fashion bread in the form of the Islamic crescent. The croissant was served up as a testament to Charles and a symbol how he devoured the invader on the battlefield. Today, the French croissant still holds a place of respect at most breakfast tables. And yet, many people are unaware that their favorite roll has a direct relationship to an engagement fought over 1200 years ago.
80 posted on 11/04/2005 7:24:33 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Fzob

Interesting bump


81 posted on 11/04/2005 7:28:05 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Popman

Now I'm going to have to turn around and start eating those French biscuits I've been avoiding for all these years (since DeGaulle - the gall of that guy was too much for me).


82 posted on 11/04/2005 7:28:37 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Paladin2

Croissants are very good along with coffee.


83 posted on 11/04/2005 7:31:05 PM PST by A. Pole (Rubicon: the border between Republic and Empire(www.unrv.com/fall-republic/crossing-the-rubicon.php))
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To: Peace will be here soon
This may be happening in France, but if it comes to the U.S., it will be met with a different attitude. I am confident of this.

If it comes to the US, many of us will be called upon to put our money where our mouth has been... and dust off the Second Amendment.

84 posted on 11/04/2005 7:31:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Paladin2
I am a bagel man myself, but this is too good to pass up because I eat breakfast with a Mooslimb co-worker almost every day

It will be my little secret.

I wonder if he will ever know why I am smiling from ear to ear

85 posted on 11/04/2005 7:33:47 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Paladin2
I'll bet his descendants emigrated west.

And they probably rode horses in the US Cavalry. Killing some of the 'indigenous' Asiatic Mongol scalping savages. The more things change, the more they stay the same. When the West and the East were not fighting amongst ourselves, we were fighting Eurasian wars. Asiatic Hordes verses the West. Eurasian warfare has been going on for 1,000's of years. China is getting ready to join the conflict. The only ray of hope comes from the Shining City on the Hill called America. Where the East meets the West. Where perhaps the two ancient conflicting cultures can hopefully eventually live together in peace.

86 posted on 11/04/2005 7:39:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Yes, it points out typical weakness on the part of the French government, but what about innocent people?

What about the innocents? The French people and their government are responsible. NOT America. Europe will have at least one more large "growing pain". The only thing that I agree with the Lefties on is bringing our soldiers home. From Europe first, then Japan, and then other far-east areas. When the middle east has remained economically viable for 50+ years, we can talk about ending that occupation.

87 posted on 11/04/2005 7:41:06 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: A. Pole

If they claim to be "autonomous" regions - they ought not get welfare or voting privileges.


88 posted on 11/04/2005 7:44:29 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: luvbach1
When France goes muslim will that be a wake-up call?

Apparently parts of France are already under control of the muslim hordes. That explains why the insurgency uprising has been allowed to go on for so many days.

89 posted on 11/04/2005 7:44:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: domenad; Paladin2; DannyTN

Madam, we must have pistols! We must all have pistols forthwith! We must all think, and we must all have pistols, and think each and every one of us to the very best of his ability...
90 posted on 11/04/2005 7:45:04 PM PST by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: Popman
Interesting. I wonder how many Frenchman know this historical tid-bit. I'd vote maybe a few dozen, but they all liberal elitist and consider it barbaric.

I, on the other hand, have just had the enjoyment of my croissants increased ten fold. Thanks.

91 posted on 11/04/2005 7:46:08 PM PST by lizma
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To: domenad
"I think it's time I finally went and bought a pistol."

Might want to get an SKS too, and several hundred rounds of 7.62 x 39mm. I recommend the Sellier and Bellot hollow point (I don't think we'll care about the Geneva convention), good quality and cheap. And practice, a lot of the vermin are poor shots, they probably fire more rounds into the air than at a target range.
92 posted on 11/04/2005 7:49:54 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Popman
Wow. And the first bagel was supposedly baked by a Vienna baker to honor the King of Poland who rode his horse into battle against the Muslim Turks and saved Vienna. The bagel was to symbolize the circular foot braces the King of Poland stood on while smashing the Muslims. Wow. Our ancestors perhaps were wiser then we could have ever imagined. They left us clues to our reason for being here today. The keys to freedom apparently can be found in the days first meal.
93 posted on 11/04/2005 7:52:42 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: A. Pole
"Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy noted “a great coordination” among rioters, hinting that the unrest was far from spontaneous."

Al Sharpton: "Boy Jesse, that spontaneous riot last night was something?"

Jesse Jackson" "Shhh, the spontaneous riot isn't until tomorrow night!"
94 posted on 11/04/2005 7:53:43 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: Popman

How long before Muslims riot over crescents and demand they be banned forever!


95 posted on 11/04/2005 7:55:25 PM PST by hershey
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To: Richard Axtell
After reading several articles and especially some of the muzzies quotes that include things like 'occupied territories' I decided to update my tagline. Seeing that the palis invented a name for themselves out of a historical Roman provincial name, I've applied the same concept.

Nam Vet

96 posted on 11/04/2005 7:56:33 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Gaulistinians are rioting to reclaim the ancient 'holy ground' of Paris.)
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To: Popman

The croissant also makes a good sandwich bread, using ham of course!


97 posted on 11/04/2005 7:58:32 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: fallujah-nuker
That is good advice. That person should also acquire a good 12-gauge pump. No need to go crazy with the high end autoloaders (Benelli, Franchi, et al, even though they are really nice). There are many robust models out there for really good prices.
98 posted on 11/04/2005 8:00:29 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: fallujah-nuker

Hmmmm....the laser sight my husband wants for Christmas is sounding more practical all the time!


99 posted on 11/04/2005 8:00:55 PM PST by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: A. Pole

FRANCE: HTTP://WWW.CIA.GOV

Roman Catholic 83%-88%, Protestant 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 5%-10%, unaffiliated 4%


100 posted on 11/04/2005 8:01:40 PM PST by Porterville (Pray for War- Spanish by birth, American by the Grace of God!!!)
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