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Behind Closed Doors Democratic senators bluff; Republicans dither.
Weekly Standard ^ | 11/14/2005 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 11/05/2005 5:14:00 AM PST by AliVeritas

WHEN SENATE MINORITY LEADER HARRY Reid abruptly took the Senate into closed session last Tuesday, he sought to portray the move as a desperate, last-ditch attempt to force intransigent Senate Republicans to complete the second phase of an investigation into the use of intelligence before the Iraq war. The procedural move is rare, one of the few things a minority party can do to seize the agenda--and the spotlight--from the Senate's majority.

After he called the Senate into closed session, a red-faced Reid sputtered his way through a press conference. "Finally after months and months and months of begging, cajoling, writing letters we're finally going to be able to have phase two of the investigation regarding how the intelligence was used to lead us into the intractable war in Iraq," he proclaimed, shortly before shouting down a reporter in mid-question.

He was just getting started.

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; democrats; leftistdeceit; leftisttactics; republicans; senate
Excellent.
1 posted on 11/05/2005 5:14:01 AM PST by AliVeritas
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To: AliVeritas
Can anyone tell me why the dims hate the USA so much? Are they still fuming about being put in the minority in every phase of government, both federal and state level? Or is it that they are just little brats who believe the one who screams the loudest wins?
2 posted on 11/05/2005 5:22:09 AM PST by nyconse (a)
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To: AliVeritas

Appears the liberal dims know full well that their counterparts the Republicans, are not going to investigate who initiated this Wilson affair from way back in Feb. of 2002. (A short 6 months after 9/11/01)


3 posted on 11/05/2005 5:22:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: nyconse

Democrats became irrational over their 2000 election loss to President Bush, and they have never recovered from it. They remain convinced the election was stolen from them and they cannot believe the rest of the country is too ignorant to understand their superior intellect and position on it.

They tried to portray George W. Bush as less intelligent and a dimwit, and they cannot fathom Bush winning over them. In other words, they believed their own propaganda even when they knew it to be a lie.


4 posted on 11/05/2005 5:31:09 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver; AliVeritas

What is really funny is after getting their butts handed them in 2002 and 2004, they are going to run the same Hate American 1st campaign again in 2006! Truly the Democrat Leadership is stuck on STUPID.


5 posted on 11/05/2005 5:33:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Close, but IMHO, to goes nack to 1994. The Dems controlled the Congress for decades. They had the power of the puse..to allocate the public $$ to their special interest groups.As long as they held the Congress, they didn't care that much about the WH...the old bull Dems want the congressional power back. Consider charlie Rangel and John Vonyers, who are both now certifiable. Rangel wants to be the Chair of the Ways and Means..he knows he'll never get it..and he is bitter..


6 posted on 11/05/2005 5:38:16 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: AliVeritas

Dingy's Senate stunt was timed to deflect attention away from the Alito nomination. Democrats knew fairly quickly that Alito would ultimately be confirmed - something the democrat base would go rip-ship over. Bush would go 2 fer 2.

By going back to the anti-war carping section of the democrat playbook, Dingy changed the subject and appeased the hardcore leftwing base. At least temporarilly.


7 posted on 11/05/2005 5:43:55 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: AliVeritas
The White House seems to hope that by refusing to engage seriously in this debate, it can somehow make the issue go away. It can't.

This is an absolutely true statement. I hope the administration is listening. There is nothing to fear with going public and fighting back. The facts are all on the side of the White House. I hope the "new tone" does not include an unwillingness to face down those who are trying to destroy you, for that is what these dems are trying to do and it has become an issue of national security.

8 posted on 11/05/2005 5:55:41 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: AliVeritas
This thing has to be fought with facts condensed to an understandable level for the public to consume. How is the hell is this accomplished!?! If you listen to conservative radio, this is old news, but only a small percentage of us listen. The other 95% doesn't have a clue and most don't care.

Additionally, the Republican Party needs a new "Manifesto" that is SHORT, TO THE POINT and concisely list the usual honorable objectives including the "war" against all who seek to destroy the things we free people cherish.

Additionally, a subtext, to the above Manifesto, is needed to describe the defensive and offensive programs being executed to protect this nation.

9 posted on 11/05/2005 6:05:49 AM PST by RAY (John Roberts, Chief Justice, The U.S. Supreme Court -- good move!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Agreed. The Dems are using the same playbook, hoping for a different outcome.


10 posted on 11/05/2005 6:06:34 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: ken5050

I agree with you on the changeover from the 1994 election, but the outrage over Bush has a life of its own. They want back in power but their lack of sanity has progressed proportionally with the loss to Bush in 2000. Add in, they have lost all the midterm elections, which had not happened for some time, and they really are beside themselves.


11 posted on 11/05/2005 6:10:19 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

Concur..we're on the same wavelength..My point was that Congressional Dems were comfortable "dealing" with Reagan and Bush 1..their ricebowl was still intact...The venom against the current President Bush is driven by the far left/wacko groups, and the Congressional dems are trying to ride that wave , or get buried by it..remember, Reid, Clinton, Byrd, et al speaking at the MoveOn presser some months back..the "problem" for the Dems is that the leadership does NOT control the party..


12 posted on 11/05/2005 6:14:04 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: nyconse

Actually they are so self superior that they believe that they naturally have the right to rule whether in the majority or not.


13 posted on 11/05/2005 6:34:47 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: AliVeritas

-"They've done nothing, nothing substantive. And that's been the problem. Nothing substantive."-

Translation: They've provided us with nothing with which to impeach GWB! Nothing!!


14 posted on 11/05/2005 6:42:34 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Morgan in Denver

They will achieve their goal.

Bush will NOT be re-elected.

Like a rooster who thinks his crowing caused the sunrise, the Libs are thinking their whining will be the cause of Bush leaving the WH.


15 posted on 11/05/2005 7:29:44 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I agree, there is no way we can nominate such damaged goods for President ever again! The Democrats have entirely wiped out GWB's chances to run again!


16 posted on 11/05/2005 7:46:07 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: Morgan in Denver
I was sooo jacked when W won re-election because voter reaffirmation would certainly crush and quiet those who thought 2000 was a stolen election.

It didn't. Libs are complete POS. I want their party destroyed.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 7:47:39 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: AliVeritas
" All of the statements were entered on a spreadsheet that put each public statement side-by-side with the underlying intelligence reporting that came closest to supporting it." . . . . . . . . . . That is, the claims would be assessed without any knowledge of who made them. Although the plan seemed like a reasonable way to take politics out of the evaluation process, the Democrats balked. For good reason.

Ooohhhhh those wascawwy Wepublicans. They took statements and put them on a timeline. But they didn't attribute the statements. Of course, many of the statements were being made by Democrats, some of whom are now saying the opposite of what they said earlier - and now while accusing the Bush Administration of LYING! And they're livid! Ya just gotta love it!

18 posted on 11/05/2005 7:49:55 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: chiller
I want their party destroyed.

Me too, I can't rest until it happens.

Eleanor Clift was on the McLaughlin Group last night talking impeachment. Scared the crap outta me. What is the liklihood of this?

19 posted on 11/05/2005 7:50:24 AM PST by riri
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To: chiller

"It didn't. Libs are complete POS. I want their party destroyed."

I agree and they are like Dracula contantly rising from the grave. We need to take their current treasonous activity and use it like a stake to drive in their heart to kill them off for good.


20 posted on 11/05/2005 7:54:28 AM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: riri

Only in Eleanor's perverted sexual fantasies.


21 posted on 11/05/2005 7:55:17 AM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: riri
talking impeachment. Scared the crap outta me. What is the liklihood of this

Pfffffttt. Again I say, Pffffftttt. Helen Thomas has a better chance of getting a date than an impeachment of W.

22 posted on 11/05/2005 7:59:55 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Make high definition tv fun. Aggravate 'em until their heads explode.)
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To: AliVeritas

The President ought to go directly at the Dems in the State of the Union speech. I know it's against tradition--but its also against tradition to take politics into a war or have a past President taking potshots at an administration like Carter and Slick Willie are doing.


23 posted on 11/05/2005 8:02:27 AM PST by wildbill
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To: nyconse
Can anyone tell me why the dims hate the USA so much?

Rather... can anyone tell me why Bush, and Senate Republicans, don't tell the American people how these SOB's(and the MSM) are attempting to rewrite history!

What the hell are these pukes made of?!!

24 posted on 11/05/2005 8:05:22 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: DarthVader
Only in Eleanor's perverted sexual fantasies

I have fantasies of runnning her over with my SUV.

Seriously, I don't know how Tony doesn't reach over and just cold cock her. (:

25 posted on 11/05/2005 8:06:04 AM PST by riri
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To: AliVeritas

Wow! Great, great article. Thanks for posting this.
Bookmarked.


26 posted on 11/05/2005 8:13:23 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: AliVeritas
It is hard to imagine a more serious charge than the one Senate Democrats are now making: The Bush administration took the country to war in Iraq on the basis of lies. The White House seems to hope that by refusing to engage seriously in this debate, it can somehow make the issue go away.

It can't.

Amen to that. Bush and the Republicans need to start throwing some roundhouses.
The scumbag Democrats need to be buried.

27 posted on 11/05/2005 8:15:44 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Enterprise
many of the statements were being made by Democrats, some of whom are now saying the opposite of what they said earlier - and now while accusing the Bush Administration of LYING! And they're livid! Ya just gotta love it!

And they use that very lie to launch a blood libel against President Bush, safe in the knowledge that the MSM will never call them on it.

But no, I don't love it. This is dangerous stuff.

28 posted on 11/05/2005 8:25:15 AM PST by sphinx
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To: sphinx
The Republicans are rubbing the faces of the Democrats in their own contradictions - and I DO love it!
29 posted on 11/05/2005 8:29:22 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: MNJohnnie

True: but the RNC, Pub leadership in the Congress and the Prez will NOT stand up and defend themselves. Look at Specter caving on the Alito confirmation date. The Prez refuses to stand up and refute the lying and incompetent charges. We may listen to Rush and hope he is right but the MSM and DNC allies have made great inroads in convincing many voters to think badly of the Pubs not the Dems and it is all a ploy of lies and spin. Still, polls do show huge gaps in reliability and integrity. We may wish it was against the Clinton years, their lies, their failures but as in baseball, what do you do for me now is the way voters and opinion molders look at the present situation. W will not stand up and defend himself and this is brewing a '06-08 disaster. I love Rush but he is overly optimistic that the Net, Fox, and Talk Radio can overcome the lies and spin of the MSM-DNC axis. So far, at least according to voter sentiments, W is in the crosshairs, not the Dems. And that is frustrating and shameful!


30 posted on 11/05/2005 8:51:46 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: johnny7

You are exactly correct. Bill Kristol asked the same question in The Standard today. I wrote of it too. When will the RNC, the Congressional Leadership and W all stand up and defend themselves against these MSM-DNC lies? They are a group of wussies and unless the grassroots do it for them, nothing will be done.


31 posted on 11/05/2005 8:55:38 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Lancey Howard
How desperate is Levin that he would fabricate a Senate Intelligence "report", chock full of lies and distortions, during wartime? He and is ilk are sickening. Isn't there some way to criminally charge these people?
32 posted on 11/05/2005 8:59:56 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: phillyfanatic
If you don't challenge blatant lies & distortions... many will either believe them or at least entertain the thought that they MAY be true.

By NOT coming out viciously against these accusations... Bush and the Senate Republicans dig their own shallow graves.

33 posted on 11/05/2005 9:18:49 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Ahhhh, the smell of success. Yep, you're right. The Democrats won and Bush will not be reelected.

OTOH, expect them to use their hate for Bush in transfering hate to Republicans in general. We've seen this already as they claim Republicans are all corrupt.


34 posted on 11/05/2005 10:12:15 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: chiller

The ultimate solution is to close down the Democrat party and then split the Repubicans in two, based on social conservative versus liberal lines. That way we'd all be fiscally conservative and supporting the USA, as compared to being so anti-American as they are.


35 posted on 11/05/2005 10:15:21 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: ken5050

I'm actually convinced Democrats do not know that they can do to regain power. The only thing they seem to have is complaining and trying to instill hatred for Republicans. Rush is right on this one, Democrats are afraid to tell voters what they actually stand for because they know it will be rejected. So, they are trying to spin what they can, hoping something will stick.


36 posted on 11/05/2005 10:20:06 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: riri

Zero chance with R majorities in both houses of congress, but that is what the libs are trying to concoct; grounds for impeachment for payback for Bill C.


37 posted on 11/05/2005 11:25:52 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: chiller

I don't mean to sound like a chicken little, but what if they gain back seats in 2006. They really are out for blood--I hope the Republican's realize this.


38 posted on 11/05/2005 11:44:59 AM PST by riri
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To: riri

At the moment, I'd bet serious money that not a single Republican seat is lost. They'd need about 30 in the house and 5 in the Senate and there aren't but a dozen competitive races, iirc.


39 posted on 11/05/2005 11:59:54 AM PST by chiller (Libs prove once again they can not be trusted with power..)
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To: AliVeritas

BTTT


40 posted on 11/06/2005 6:04:04 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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