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Death Renews Iceman 'Curse' Claim (Oetzi)
BBC ^ | 11-3-2005

Posted on 11/05/2005 3:47:36 PM PST by blam

Death renews iceman 'curse' claim

Should working with Oetzi carry a health warning?

The death of a molecular biologist has fuelled renewed speculation about a "curse" connected to an ancient corpse. Tom Loy, 63, had analysed DNA found on "Oetzi", the Stone Age hunter whose remains were discovered in 1991.

Dr Loy died in unclear circumstances in Australia two weeks ago, it has been announced, making him the seventh person connected with Oetzi to die.

Colleagues and family of Dr Loy have rejected the notion that he was the victim of a "curse".

It is not known how many people have worked on the Oetzi project - and whether the death rate is statistically high.

The amateur climber who found Oetzi in 1991, Helmut Simon, was killed during an unexpected blizzard in the Alps last year, not far from the original find.

His body was missing for eight days before it was located.

Within hours of Mr Simon's funeral, the head of the mountain rescue team sent to find him died of a heart attack, aged 45 and apparently in good health.

Four other people associated with Oetzi have died, prompting rumours of a "mummy's curse":

Rainer Henn, 64, a forensic pathologist who handled the body. He was killed in a car crash the following year

Kurt Fritz, the mountaineer who led Dr Henn to the body. He was killed in an avalanche shortly after Dr Henn died

Rainer Holz, 47, a filmmaker who made a documentary about removing the body from its block of ice. He died of a brain tumour soon afterwards

Konrad Spindler, 66, an archaeologist who was a leading expert on the body. He died of complications related to multiple sclerosis.

Scoff

Dr Loy's brother Gareth said the two had never talked about a curse - and that Tom Loy had been in poor health, with a condition that caused his blood to clot.

An inquest into Dr Loy's death was inconclusive, ruling out foul play but unable to determine if he had died of natural causes, an accident, or both, Gareth Loy told The Australian newspaper.

An unnamed colleague of Dr Loy scoffed at the idea of a curse, the newspaper reported: "He didn't believe in the curse. It was just superstition. People die."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; claim; curse; death; godsgravesglyph; iceman; mummyscurse; oetzi; oetziscurse; otzi; otziscurse; renews; theiceman

1 posted on 11/05/2005 3:47:37 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Yep any every body dies with in 6 months of their birthday too.


2 posted on 11/05/2005 3:50:47 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

Previously Posted:

Cursed Deaths Of Mummy (Sixth Person Connected To Discovery Of Oetzi The Iceman Dies)

3 posted on 11/05/2005 3:55:21 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Hey, Oetzi!
How'd you get so funky?


4 posted on 11/05/2005 3:58:04 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: blam

Could be some disease which nobody's had for 5000 years...


5 posted on 11/05/2005 4:01:46 PM PST by anthraciterabbit
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To: blam

Are you sure that these people didn't have something to do with Bill Clinton?


6 posted on 11/05/2005 4:04:43 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: anthraciterabbit

That was my first speculation when I saw the headline, but I don't know what kind of disease would cause people to die of a blizzard, an avalanche, a car accident, and a heart attack.


7 posted on 11/05/2005 4:05:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: riverrunner

Then how does anyone ever reach toddlerhood?


8 posted on 11/05/2005 4:07:50 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Cicero
"I don't know what kind of disease would cause people to die of a blizzard, an avalanche, a car accident, and a heart attack."

You've not met my ex-wife.

9 posted on 11/05/2005 4:09:43 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

You have my condolences.


10 posted on 11/05/2005 4:11:56 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

Ya' know, evey spring I always find dried-up dead mice in my sheds and bee hives. Am I in danger of meeting an untimely end for disturbing their eternal resting places? Maybe the mice can inflict some curse like eczema or atheletes foot on those who disturb their rest...


11 posted on 11/05/2005 4:13:17 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: blam
"...making him the seventh person connected with Oetzi to die."

I have what may be some bad news for these scientists.

Everyone connected with Oetzi -- as well as everyone NOT connected with Oetzi -- will die. It's just a matter of when and how.
12 posted on 11/05/2005 4:19:54 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: blam

what a load...


13 posted on 11/05/2005 4:20:12 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: blam
Now I ask you - would this guy curse anybody?


14 posted on 11/05/2005 4:23:26 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: blam
"Dr Loy died in unclear circumstances"

Cool post. I love this weird, coincidental/unexplained x-files type stuff.

Unfortunately anyone else who has worked with Funky Oetzi is running around paranoid.

15 posted on 11/05/2005 4:52:29 PM PST by manwiththehands (Big Lie #1: "Islam is a peaceful religion"; Big Lie #2: Bush "lied")
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Heh heh... yeah, and imagine, it's only been fourteen years since the original stiff was found. That's, like, one death every two years. Makes ya think. ;') Thanks Blam.

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16 posted on 11/05/2005 4:54:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: Cicero
That was my first speculation when I saw the headline, but I don't know what kind of disease would cause people to die of a blizzard, an avalanche, a car accident, and a heart attack.

If that's the case, then you're dealing with a curse and not a disease. Diseases don't work that way.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 5:13:09 PM PST by anthraciterabbit
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To: blam

Why would the Iceman curse them? I'm sure he's glad they found his thawy butt!


18 posted on 11/05/2005 5:18:30 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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To: Kimmers

> Are you sure that these people didn't have something to do with Bill Clinton?

This is "alpencide", not "arkencide."


19 posted on 11/05/2005 5:36:23 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: gcruse

If you die at 80 or 6 months you die with in 6 months of your birth day.


20 posted on 11/05/2005 5:50:42 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: blam

You wait and see, this curse is hugh and series...

Before the end of this century, we'll all be dead from this curse...


21 posted on 11/05/2005 5:53:31 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: riverrunner

Actually, you mean the annual celebration of your birthday. You really only have one birthday. Hence, if everyone died within six months of their birthday, there'd be no toddlers.


22 posted on 11/05/2005 5:59:12 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: blam

It's pretty embarassing that the BBC is even reporting this. I don't see anything abnormal about a few old men dying of natural causes and a couple others in accidents, and I will go out on a limb and predict that more will die in just the same way over the next ten years.


23 posted on 11/05/2005 6:01:21 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Everyone connected with Oetzi -- as well as everyone NOT connected with Oetzi -- will die. It's just a matter of when and how.

No fair! How did I get sucked into this?

24 posted on 11/05/2005 6:03:36 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: anthraciterabbit
If that's the case, then you're dealing with a curse and not a disease. Diseases don't work that way.

How about "Totally unrelated" as option C?

25 posted on 11/05/2005 6:05:51 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: manwiththehands

think we can put this body in the same room as the entire democratic party??????WOW!!!!!!!we could eliminate all our problems in one fell swoop......


26 posted on 11/05/2005 6:21:09 PM PST by fishbabe
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To: SpringheelJack

Blame your parents. That's what I've done. It's worked well so far, you know, the guilt trip and all.


27 posted on 11/05/2005 7:39:37 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: fishbabe

LOL! Maybe we could get Howard Dean (he's a doctor, right?) to start an investigation into what evil Republican caused his death ...


28 posted on 11/05/2005 7:47:16 PM PST by manwiththehands (Big Lie #1: "Islam is a peaceful religion"; Big Lie #2: Bush "lied")
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To: riverrunner

Bet I can guess the day you were born within four days..


29 posted on 11/05/2005 10:31:56 PM PST by D-fendr
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Note: this topic was posted 11/5/2005. Thanks blam.


30 posted on 07/27/2014 3:53:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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