Posted on 11/06/2005 5:25:33 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
WASHINGTON - For more than a year, former Marine Staff Sgt. Jimmy Massey has been telling anybody who would listen about the atrocities that he and other Marines committed in Iraq.
In scores of newspaper, magazine and broadcast stories, at a Canadian immigration hearing and in numerous speeches across the country, Massey told how he and other Marines recklessly, sometimes intentionally killed dozens of innocent Iraqi civilians.
Among his claims:
Marines fired on and killed peaceful Iraqi protesters.
Americans shot a 4-year-old Iraqi girl in the head.
Tractor-trailers were filled with the bodies of civilian men, women and children killed by American artillery.
Massey's claims have gained him celebrity. Last month, Massey's book, Kill, Kill, Kill, was released in France. His allegations have been reported in nationwide publications such as Vanity Fair and USA Today, as well as numerous broadcast reports. Earlier this year, he joined the anti-war bus tour of Cindy Sheehan and he's spoken at Cornell and Syracuse universities, among others.
News organizations worldwide published or broadcast Massey's claims without any corroboration and in most cases without investigation. Outside of the Marines, almost no one has seriously questioned whether Massey, a 12-year veteran who was honorably discharged, was telling the truth.
He wasn't.
Each of his claims is either demonstrably false or exaggerated - according to his fellow Marines, Massey's own admissions, and the five journalists who were embedded with Massey's unit, including a reporter and photographer from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and reporters from the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal.
Massey, 34, was discharged in December 2003, shortly after returning from Iraq due to depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome.
He began turning up in the press and broadcast last spring with stories about military atrocities. Massey's primary thrust has been that Marines from his battalion - some of whom, he told a Minneapolis audience were ''psychopathic killers'' - recklessly shot and killed Iraqi civilians, sometimes, he said, upon orders from their commanders.
The article doesn't say what kind of discharge he got. I hope he at least got an other-than-honorable so that he can't get any veteran's benefits. This guy is a scumbag of the highest order.
Sorry if already posted, I did do a search on title and different keywords.
Perhaps he didn't say anything before.
Traitor.
I say hang the b@$tard...
the MSM will ignore this end of the story... now that they've gotten mileage from this crap...
Paging John Kerry. John Kerry, please call your campaign headquarters ...
We'll just have to keep an eye on this fella.
Give the Dispatch some credit. We'll see how widely this gets distributed.
Isn't it curious that the reporters embedded with him never spoke up at the time?
Whoops, I just locked in on the second-to-last paragraph, good catch. Now I am ticked off!!
sounds like this guy is the future for the democrat party
Curious? Yes. Surprizing? No.
Yep, I missed that. Thanks.
A future John Kerry! Can a run for the Senate be far ahead of this valorous principled outspoken war hero?
Elect Frank J. Gonzalez Democrat for United States Representative District 21 Florida in 2006
"Frank Supports U.S. Marine's Efforts to Alert the Public, 8-12-5"
Frank & Iraq occupation veteran & U.S. Marines recruiter Staff Sergeant Jim Massey, 33, on his first night in Miami before giving his presentation to supporters on deceptive recruitment and war practices of the U.S. military. (Courtesy of Patricia Lecusay)
"Give the Dispatch some credit"
How much? They sat on the truth for a year.
Hopefully we can get this story some needed exposure.
This POS will do anything for 15 minutes of publicity and a steak dinner with a congressional candidate. I hope he meets with an accident.
He has not yet confessed to being a DemoRat. This probably has some bearing on the other.
The only differences between this guy an Turbin Durbin is that Durbin is in the Senate and this guy was, once upon a time, a useful soldier for this country. The same, however, could be said about Timothy McVeigh.
Sgt. Massey began to show signs of depression and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD; a common syndrome of people who have been through horrific events).
"I asked to see a military psychiatrist, and he put me on 100mg of Zoloft a day." Massey also describe the hassle with military commanders he received for seeking help, which encompassed constant verbal taunts with sayings like "conscientious objector, .... baby," "are you still in you mother's womb?" and others. In the following months, Massey was bullied by military command that forced him to resign (over losing a military canvas), nearly had him courtmartialed and almost labeled a 'conscientious objector' (which would result in a loss of all his veteran's benefits). It was not until he was fmally discharged that Massey would begin to speak out against the war.
That's what I was thinking, too. Big surprise France had their dirty little hands in this. I say drop rat-boy into the middle of a VFW convention or a veteran's biker rally. They'll know what to do with him. (I'm not suggesting violence, I just think this POS needs to be confronted about this forcefully.)
Sounds like a kerry in the making.
RA all the way,
NSNR
"Kudos to the embedded Dispatch and WSJ reporters for telling the truth,"
Where were they a year ago?
How about they put out a story on Carl Rove being a crazed serial killer and then wait a year to tell us the truth?
"Impromptu Demonstration with Jim Massey in Support of Cindy Sheehan 8-15-5"
Frank holds up a sign that reads "GOV'T ADMITS NO WMD" above another sign that reads "FAVOR WAR? ENLIST YOUR OWN KIDS!" (Photo courtesy of Danny Hammontree at http://www.digitalgrace.com)
http://www.politicalgateway.com/elections/images/2006/12/3/0/0/186/186_400_050818163205.jpg
Frank & Jim side by side.
http://www.politicalgateway.com/elections/images/2006/12/3/0/0/186/186_400_050818162950.jpg
Call Dan Rather and he can interview him while showing the papers from Kinkos. . .
That would be a true example of modern journalism.
The St. Louis Post Dispatch was sold by the Pulitzer Family within the last year. The paper has always been very liberal and it is my understanding was sold to the present publisher with an agreement that it would stay liberal.
Strange to see something like this coming from the St. Louis Post Dispatch.
In 30 years, this guy can run for president as a Democrat. His career trajectory is on plan.
"I wonder if this Massey guy, "generally terrorized the hillsides of [Iraq] in a fashion reminiscent of Jen-Jis Khan"One word: scumbag. Period.
Sounds like this guy is planning for a run in 2024."
Former Sergeant Claims to have shot Children (03/14/2005)
Each of his claims is either demonstrably false or exaggerated - according to his fellow Marines, Massey's own admissions, and the five journalists who were embedded with Massey's unit, including a reporter and photographer from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and reporters from the Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal.
That's it? Too much trouble to do some splaining and name the 'reporter', 'reporters' and 'photographer' who are disputing Massey and to give some specifics? And to explain the delay in refuting his allegations?
Hang on, we don't know if this is the Dispatch's first mention of Massey and his shenanigans. Maybe they sat on this, maybe they didn't.
Hmmm.
This goes nicely with this recent article:
GI Acquitted in Afghan Abuse Trial
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516198/posts
Make sure these two are on the front page of your Sunday fishwrap.
Very interesting.
Q: Were there any gratifying aspects to what you did while over there?
A: Oh yeah, there were. We killed lots of bad guys.
Once, and I still have the note, there was this little girl in Baghdad, near the university. We pulled into what looked like a women’s homeless shelter. We parked our Humvee and got out, and these people were so loving. They were giving us flowers. This little girl kept staring at me, and she was waving and smiling. She picked up a piece of paper and she came running downstairs and wrote, “Hi, I love you, God bless America.” It was so powerful.
And then, after reading something like that, we were probably killing some of her innocent relatives. Maybe that’s why she’s in a shelter.
Massey, 34, was discharged in December 2003, shortly after returning from Iraq due to depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome.
I have a feeling, if he meets up with some fellow Marines any time soon, he'll have more problems than these.
Are we sure this isnt Cindy Shehans real son?. Casey and this piece of slime may have gotten switched in the hospital.
ok. I'm willing to wait for a St. Louis FReeper to let us know.
And your point is ...? You sympathize with him?
You bring up some great points because, so far, I'm not seeing anything in the Dispatch before now. I'm still looking. I do find it interesting that a Freeper on this thread said that the Dispatch was very liberal until it was recently sold, so that may be the answer right there.
one time when there is a "former Marine" - most Marines never stop, because they earned the right to alwyas be a Marine.
I'm not up on current military regs but many years ago:
1) CO status had to be specifically requested by the individual and
2) CO status had no effect at all on veteran's benefits.
I don't believe that either of these statements are true.
"I asked to see a military psychiatrist, and he put me on 100mg of Zoloft a day." Massey also describe the hassle with military commanders he received for seeking help, which encompassed constant verbal taunts with sayings like "conscientious objector, .... baby," "are you still in you mother's womb?" and others. In the following months, Massey was bullied by military command that forced him to resign (over losing a military canvas), nearly had him courtmartialed and almost labeled a 'conscientious objector' (which would result in a loss of all his veteran's benefits). It was not until he was fmally discharged that Massey would begin to speak out against the war.
This quotation in NOT in the article that Martin linked. What is the source of the quote?
“They sat on it for a year.”
Well, it is better than decades like Vietnam and Korea.
Hopefully there will never be “Stolen Honor, Vol II”.
Over 30 years since the last American combat Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and Marine left ‘Nam and the lies told by the MSM and wantabes are still being told and spread (CNN‘s “Tailwind“ for example). I used to wonder why then I realized it’s a matter of projection. Those telling such lies are projecting what they would do. And, since they are such great and upstanding people “everyone does it”. Enough said.
I don’t understand people like this, never have, never will, and most importantly - I DON’T WANT TO!
A nice playmate for Scott Ritter...
And this idiot chucked it all for a book deal, some publicity, and free travel around the country. Will he feel good about it in 5 years? I doubt it. He'll have blown through whatever pittance money he got, he'll be an exposed liar, nobody anywhere will return his calls, and nobody will give him the time of day when he has to go find a job.
This piece of human debris is riding high while he's having a steak dinner with DemonRat candidate for congress. Five years from now, he'll be just another anti-war loser starting from square one.
Hey Kerry! Ya got a wannabee on yer trail. Will you vote for him when he runs?
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