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Justice to Elia Kazan
City Journal ^ | Autumn 2005 | Harry Stein

Posted on 11/06/2005 4:48:48 PM PST by Lorianne

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1 posted on 11/06/2005 4:48:50 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

No matter what Kazan and McCarthy have been called, it's simply irrefutable to state that they were wrong. If you look at the entertainment industry today, you cannot escape the fact that it is riddled with the very people they feared were determined to take it over.

If anyone thinks it's healthy to have subversives run the major media outlets, I guess that's their take on it. Most U.S. citizens would find it very troubling.

At what point does sedition and anti-U.S. activity cross the line? The villification of McCarthy and Kazan is nothing more than an innoculation aginst us ever considering the matter in earnest.


2 posted on 11/06/2005 4:56:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Lorianne

"let Mr. Kazan’s denouncers apologize for the aid and comfort they gave to Stalinism"

that says it all.


3 posted on 11/06/2005 4:59:00 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Lorianne

Notice how they didn't say that he wrongly accused anyone of being Communist. So long as he is not wrongfully accusing anyone, Kazan is a hero and great American, and should be praised. Communists were working to undermine our democratic constitution and were treacherous. Incidentally, it would appear that Hollywood hasn't changed much, although I suppose the Communist organization is not so structured. They have all just internalized the precepts that America is always bad and her enemies are always good.


4 posted on 11/06/2005 5:11:23 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Lorianne

Tremendous article. Thanks for the post!


5 posted on 11/06/2005 5:20:25 PM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: Lorianne
"Moscow’s ultimate Hollywood goal, Koch explains, was to “Stalinize the glamour culture”—that is, associate in the public mind left-wing views and celebrated entertainers, lending those views respectability. This project could also enable the party to tap “Hollywood’s great guilty wealth as a cash cow.”"

I am sure that party leaders could never have imagined that the success of those efforts would so great so enduring.
6 posted on 11/06/2005 5:24:17 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Lorianne
On the Waterfront is arguably the greatest film of all time.

"You think your God almighty, but you're nothin but a dirty, rotten, stinkin mug!"

7 posted on 11/06/2005 5:28:04 PM PST by lesser_satan
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The new Hollywood that emerged in the sixties was far more monolithic in its politics than the one Kazan first encountered in the forties, and from the outset the kinship between Hollywood’s New and Old Left was inescapable. Even the old Communist Party epithets—“fascist,” “reactionary,” “warmonger”—came back in vogue.

And still in vogue...

I was sorry to hear that Brando and Stieger were such @$$h01es.

No mention of Ann Coulter's Treason, her best work and a gift to the American People?

8 posted on 11/06/2005 5:35:42 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: Lorianne
Thanks for the post.

Kazan was involved in an important event during an important period in American history.

And, almost alone among his peers, he did the right thing.

9 posted on 11/06/2005 5:41:19 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Lorianne

Great post.

There's an old saying: "It takes courage to stand up to your enemies; it takes even more courage to stand up to your friends."

My problem with McCarthy was his methods. The basic result of the hearings- "Rat out all your friends or you'll never work again" was pretty nasty IMHO.
It definitely reminds me of the witch hunts of the middle ages. For example, the accused witch was guilty until proven innocent. Since "everybody knew" that there were always thirteen witches in a coven, the most horrible tortures ever devised were used until the victim "named names." When (as was almost always the case) an innocent was arrested, and was thus forced to name other innocents, the results were tragic.

I don't feel a bit sorry for Hollywood's card-carrying Reds. I do feel sorry for those who, while not communists themselves, chose their principles over their pocketbooks, refused to testify, and lost their livelihoods. They deserve our pity, and we must never let anyone be put in that position again.


10 posted on 11/06/2005 5:43:53 PM PST by Ostlandr ("Billions down the drain, and we ain't plugged it yet." - Federal Government motto)
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"The totalitarian ideology that gave rise to the era’s excesses wound up either ignored or sanitized."

Meanwhile, even America's slightest sin of omission as perceived by the left cannot be forgiven nor forgotten.
11 posted on 11/06/2005 5:44:11 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Lorianne

One of the most interesting articles I've seen in a long time, and one I would not have found outside of FR. Thanks for posting it!


12 posted on 11/06/2005 5:48:16 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Lorianne

Interesting post. Thanks.


13 posted on 11/06/2005 5:49:55 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: JennysCool

You're welcome. Thanks to Harry Stein for writing it!


14 posted on 11/06/2005 5:51:38 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Great article. Good reading.


15 posted on 11/06/2005 6:11:49 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: Ostlandr
I don't feel a bit sorry for Hollywood's card-carrying Reds. I do feel sorry for those who, while not communists themselves, chose their principles over their pocketbooks, refused to testify, and lost their livelihoods. They deserve our pity, and we must never let anyone be put in that position again.

Can you name names?

16 posted on 11/06/2005 6:19:49 PM PST by Logophile
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Conservative actors and screenwriters are blacklisted in Hollywood now. You can rarely be openly conservative there and expect to find work. So much for the tolerant, free thinking left in Hollywood.


17 posted on 11/06/2005 6:23:14 PM PST by outofhere2
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To: Deb

ping


18 posted on 11/06/2005 6:31:45 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Ostlandr
My problem with McCarthy was his methods. The basic result of the hearings- "Rat out all your friends or you'll never work again" was pretty nasty IMHO.

If you're referring to the Hollywood hearings, McCarthy had nothing to do with them. He was never a member of the House and never investigated Hollywood.

The brainless association of Senator McCarthy with the House Committee On Un-American Activities would be comic if it weren't for the seriousness of the consequences.

19 posted on 11/06/2005 6:40:33 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin BeHaShem, vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: Ostlandr
It definitely reminds me of the witch hunts of the middle ages. For example, the accused witch was guilty until proven innocent.

Hold on a minute right there. When were accused Communists "guilty until proven innocent"?

20 posted on 11/06/2005 6:42:28 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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