Posted on 11/06/2005 6:14:01 PM PST by Former Military Chick
Why did Michael Schiavo, a Floridian with Pennsylvania roots, endorse Democrat Tim Kaine's run for Virginia governor?
Your guess is as good as Kaine's, whose campaign first learned the news on Wednesday after Schiavo's PR firm gave the mini-scoop to the Washington Post. The maneuver was meant to motivate base Democrats in Virginia six days before the Nov. 8 vote. Schiavo's statement said lots of mean things about Jeb Bush and Florida, and only a few nice things about Kaine and Virginia.
This makes us wonder: Is Schiavo focused on Virginia's well being, or his own political future? Doesn't Florida hold its own gubernatorial contest next year? Schiavo's spokesman told us that the widower has no plans to run for office "at this point.... He's just saying that the debate between Kaine and Jerry Kilgore is exactly the kind of thing he's talking about."
Speculation aside, Schiavo re-emerges at a critical juncture in the 2005 political arch. Terri Schiavo's tragic case, and the GOP's reaction to it, helped launch a downward spiral last spring that continues today. That spiral, it seems, could help Kaine next week, far more than any endorsement ever could.
On the surface, anyway, you seem to be circumspect, although it would be more appropriate, perhaps, to state your own opinions rather than point to some rule that you seem to think, although erroneously, I had broken.
Charles Krauthammer expressed in an article that he himself would not want to live in a persistant vegetative state, and would prefer to be "euthanized" (to use your own word here). Would Dr. Krauthammer's thoughts be unwelcome here? Would this be forced euthanasia?
Now, I could be wrong, because frankly I wasn't there when she said it, or when he said that she said it. I can tell you that it was my understanding from reports in the news that he said she said it. You weren't there either, I assume. However, because Dr. Krauthammer said it, because I said it (I would want them to pull the plug on me under similar circumstances), because so many others I know have said it (from all creeds and walks of life), I can only assume that if he says she said it, then she said it. (Man, that last sentence... sorry about that). Oh yeah, and if I were in Iraq as a soldier, which I am not, I would practice "forced euthanasia" on a few terrorists. How is that for violating principles, eh?
It was the only way society would allow it. Perhaps you are correct that there could have been quicker ways to do it. But compared to pissing and crapping on yourself for the next 30 years without knowing it... Of course, I hope it doesn't happen to any decent person ever. But it will, unfortunately. So, I can only hope you've written out your living will, so that the undignified idiots like myself know what you want if it should happen to you.
You appear to be extremely soul sick, from where I sit.
"May someone you love, who happens to love life but suffer from an irreversible handicap, never end up with you as his or her guardian."
I agree with that sentiment 100%, and I thank you (I think) for expressing it. But, if I should ever be in that position, I will follow my own sense of life, dignity, and honor, and will consider what the sufferer had requested of me. EVEN IF IT MEANS that people like you will have nasty comments about me in your TAGLINEs (of all places).
Regharding the condition of my soul, why does it always turn out that MORTALS always want to have the last word?
You may very well be in the minority, with others who would rather be tortured to death than live with disabilities. That does not prove that Terri requested to be tortured to death. As a matter of fact, the rumors you read in the press have nothing to do with the court records. If you took the time to read the court records, you would know that no one ever alleged that Terri had requested to be euthanized under any circumstances. You would also know that every doctor who testified (even those who were hired by Michael to testify against Terri) all agreed that she did not meet the qualifications for a determination of PVS according to Florida law.
So I ask you once again to answer the question that you brought up. How did Michael honor Terri's wishes? According to his own sworn testimony, as well as everyone else's, those were not her wishes.
Perhaps I overstepped some boundary by writing you seem to have a sick soul...I should have written you appear to have a cold heart. Less spiritual and better suited to one stranger commenting upon the opinion of another.
Looks like another troll from clown posse. What do you think?
Oh please, please share you wisdow with me. I've seen the light and it's name is BagelFace. You've been here since August and you're making FRiends all over the place. Let's just agree to disagree, your profound intelligence is just too much for me. In case that's too subtle for you, don't post to me anymore.
The gravestone that monster laid upon her ashes says it all...this freak considered Terri dead from the moment of her so called collapse (which I have no knowledge of other than a gut feeling that he strangled her out of the rage he was seeing, at the time, a psychiatrist for help with, as the medications found in his home indicated and as his psychiatrists warning to Terri's parents to watch mike as they could be in danger should he become enraged).
And because he considered her dead from that moment...he laid a horrific exisitence of denial of therapy, love, comfort and light (blinds ordered drawn, no outings in wheelchair) hoping her spirit would break and she would descend into death out of despair and hopelessness.
But never have I ever heard of or read about anyone who fought to live like Terri Schindler did...what a light.
Michael Schiavo stinks to high heaven.
Yes. His stench is only overshadowed by his murderous behavior.
There must be something to the "non-court record" reports. It does say: "I kept my promise" on her grave stone, after all. What's up with that? Furthermore, if I had my brain stem rotted out, I'd hope my guardian would know me, could make a reasonable assumption regarding my wishes, and carry them out. But you are correct that I did not read the court records. However, those who would now argue that Terri was not, at best, in a PVS (after the autopsy) would, I would tend to believe, be in the minority.
Hrraummphhh! Oh, no, now I'll have no other children to play with!
...our perceptions of the profoundest reason, and most radiant beauty... in this sense, and in this sense alone, I am a deeply religious man...
Albert Einstein
One brilliant man who like others before him and those yet to make their mark on humanity strove to conquer with knowledge and dedication, a deeper knowledge of the world around us.
Other than admiration for Albert, your post seeems rather shallow.
OK, I'm not going to trade barbs. But perhaps it seemed shallow because you didn't get the point. However, that's neither here nor there. How's this: perhaps it might possibly be shallow to accuse others of murderous intent, playing G-d, in essence, might possibly maybe be shallow. Or not.
Accusing someone of murder, and in Terri's case, I accuse not only michael, imo, a monster, but every single soul who helped him deprive Terri of a life as full of comfort, joy and love as possible.
Terri was considered DEAD by her monster of a husband since her collapse and had that written on her tombstone just to prove his point. (oh wait, I mean he did apparently use her to get a lawsuit going so he must have believed she was worth at least MONEY for a few years. And after he got his 1.3 million bucks, to be used for her future care and comfort, then he put up the do not resusitate order on her door. Monster!
And he discarded and abused as if she were dead for MANY YEARS just to prove his point.
You think accusing michael of murder is akin to playing God? Really? Interesting. He is factually a murderer...as is greer, felos, labyak and everysingle florida state rep and judge who was involved in this state sanctioned brutal, horrific assignment of death by STARVATION and DEHYDRATION on behalf of her husband in name only who was busy porking another woman and making babies on the side.
Hold on there, Seabiscuit! You're going too fast for me (although I'm not a Democrat, I swear!).
By playing God I meant that you KNOW all these things about some other human being, that no reasonable person can know, and based on this knowledge, condemning him. And that no other explanation for events is humanly possible. And there is no condition under which any human being has a reasonable right to be allowed to die without intervention. I think your view is not balanced (I'm not saying you're unbalanced, though).
Now, we could be agreeing more than it seems, and that would be nice. Or, the differences may be too great, such as differences in the degree to which we follow biblical exegesis in these matters. I am open to opinions, of course, and you seem like an intelligent and thoughtful chap. I simply cannot condemn M.S. at this point the way you and your compadres have, and I reacted a little strongly to that. My apologies if I went too far in using offensive language.
Eating a bagel, as in life, trying to see truth through an ever widening (w)hole, I remain, brother FReeper,
very faithfully yours,
BF
He is known, and has made himself known...just ask larry king.
Thought I'd put a twist on your craft to allow you the chance to view 'playing God' from the other side of the coin, as it were.
And what an horrendous, cruel, drawn-out, horrific game it was, from my side of the window.
They killed her dead.
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