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INVASION USA Could French-style riots happen here?
World Net Daily ^ | November 8, 2005

Posted on 11/07/2005 10:24:14 PM PST by avant_garde

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To: ezoeni

00 is much more devastating on vital organs.


101 posted on 11/08/2005 5:28:08 AM PST by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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To: avant_garde
The answer is yes, it could. But it would be planned and coordinated rather than spontaneous (which is how it started in France). The result would be a lot of bodies on both sides and an end to bi-lingualism and all it entails.

Do I think it will happen, no.

102 posted on 11/08/2005 5:29:22 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Prime Choice
Actually, 40% of the rioters arrested during the Rodney King fiasco were Latino. And the state waited several days before calling out the National Guard plus it took a day to find the key to the ammo locker.

One thing I had to admire about the Latinos; while the locals were happy to smash a window and grab a TV, they were stealing U-haul trucks and backing them up for a thorough clean out.
103 posted on 11/08/2005 5:33:01 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: avant_garde

And California is steadfastly working to disarm its law-abiding citizens through gun bans, ammo taxes, and the like, leaving the way safe and clear for rampaging mobs.


104 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:06 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: avant_garde

For all I care, they can take over Detroit, NY, Philly, St Louis and San Fran. Combine them and make one country called Liberalslovakiaslovenia.

They can have the debt, the poverty, the taxes and all the great social programs that make a country prosperous as LBJ said they would. /sarcasm


105 posted on 11/08/2005 6:26:29 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: struggle

And we are not afraid to use them. In FL I can shoot anyone I think is threatening me or my family. I guess I will just have to get on the roof with the M-14


106 posted on 11/08/2005 6:55:55 AM PST by stm
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To: bmwcyle

If Muslims were ever dumb enough to pull this shit in our streets, they would finally discover that although our elected officials will appease them, the American citizens will be all too happy to send them back home sporting new leaks.


107 posted on 11/08/2005 8:15:31 AM PST by DCWatson
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To: All

All I need is 45 minutes to head to Wal Mart to pick up some shotgun shells...10 boxes ought to top off my supply pretty well.

Then some 45acp ball from the same store...ten more boxes...

I'd be ready then...let's play cowboys and Mexicans.


108 posted on 11/08/2005 8:23:19 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (Big people are harder to kidnap!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Our immigrants assimilate and integrate, they have jobs, and they move up the economic ladder. Every 2nd generation immigrant speaks and reads English.

Agree...the vast majority of immigrants want a better life for their children, and they know they must assimilate to achieve that.

I think that the vast majority of the Muslim community in the US feel likewise. If I'm wrong, then I would strongly advise anyone interested in fomenting a rebellion these three simple words:

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!

From my 20+ years in Texas, I have learned how seriously the average Texan takes these words. Bin Laden and his cronies wouldn't last five minutes.

109 posted on 11/08/2005 8:33:27 AM PST by Night Hides Not (1 John 3:18 (my interpretation: Deeds, Not Words"))
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


110 posted on 11/08/2005 9:17:10 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: avant_garde

Toledo!


111 posted on 11/08/2005 9:20:13 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Veteran's Day is November 11th. Thank a Vet.!)
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To: Night Hides Not

We fought a good fight, but we didn't exactly win at the Alamo. (and yes, I'm a direct descendent of someone who fought there, so I'm not dissing them).

susie


112 posted on 11/08/2005 9:37:16 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: avant_garde
Petit France->> CANADA is next..
They will fold like a deck chair also.. and the Muzzies know it..
113 posted on 11/08/2005 9:37:19 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Black Tooth
And in 10 years, when there is 60,000,000 illegals in country?

Oh, but haven't you heard, dear Black Tooth? Those illegals, those people hiring coyotes and sneaking across our borders and terrorizing the ranchers who live near the border and killing those ranchers' animals and using fake documents and stealing Americans' identities and working under the table and dropping jackpot babies and collecting taxpayer funded services to which they're not entitled and joining MS-13 and using the emergency room without paying and taking up 25% of our prison space...why, they're all devout Catholics! It's altar boys who are streaming across the borders! Future priests and nuns! These kindhearted religious folk wouldn't dream of rioting. We have nothing to fear.

Just wait, people. That's all I've got to say. Just wait.

114 posted on 11/08/2005 9:40:23 AM PST by Nea Wood (A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Proverbs 13:22)
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To: avant_garde
>>>"Can a similar insurrection occur in the USA?" asks Ernesto Cienfuegos of La Voz de Aztlan.

NOPE!

And I saw hints of it too!

The week of and after 9/11.

A few stores got hit, broken windows, graffiti, just minor.

The police and guard were out in riot gears patrolling all the streets and we had a state of emergency called with only authorized personnel/first responders being permitted on roads.

The police/fire/emergency personnel nipped it right in the bud!
115 posted on 11/08/2005 9:44:17 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: avant_garde

Ernesto Cienfuegos is a anti-American anti-Semitic hatemonger who would love nothing more than to see the destruction of both the USA and Israel. I can't beleive somebody hasn't taken this POS out yet.


116 posted on 11/08/2005 9:46:52 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: sbl.htral
Humm - Riots will not happen in Texas & Florida, I'm sure of that.

You can add Georgia to that list, too.

117 posted on 11/08/2005 9:50:08 AM PST by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"but the number of Hispanics who takes the Aztlan nonsense seriously is near zero."

I take it you haven't been to a university campus recently.


118 posted on 11/08/2005 10:02:07 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: adam_az

Actually I have. Students adopt a lot of stupid and superficial causes/slogans, which they soon don't give a damn about after they start working 40+ hours, paying a mortgage, and feeding a child.


119 posted on 11/08/2005 10:04:23 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: avant_garde
Good morning.

I wonder if Ernesto chose the name Cienfuegos to honor the murdering Cuban revolutionary who was purged by those other murdering revolutionaries, Fidel Castro, Raul Castro, and Che Guevara.

La Voz is the newspaper the Mecha and Aztlan front men pass out here in California. It's a straight forward propaganda rag that ignorant American businesses often lay out next to the Auto Shopper and the Penny Pincher at the checkout counter.

It's going to but very interesting when the Republica del Norte runs into the Republic of Jefferson.

Michael Frazier
120 posted on 11/08/2005 10:13:32 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: avant_garde

What is funny is, if they ever could create "Aztlan". Aztlanians would be moving north to cross the NEW border for jobs.


121 posted on 11/08/2005 10:17:16 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Aaron0617

benton harbor was a race related riot. if i were worried about a culture/ religious riot in MI i'd look towards dearborn first (one of the highest concentration of arabian americans in the country). then maybe east lansing, we like riots there (4 in 18 months a few years back).


122 posted on 11/08/2005 10:21:28 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: adam_az
Good morning.
"I take it you haven't been to a university campus recently."

Or a Dept. of Social Services office.

Michael Frazier
123 posted on 11/08/2005 10:24:05 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: avant_garde
I actually expect things to start in LA, SF and Seattle within 6 months.

Look for it to be a summer suprise before the 06 elections.

124 posted on 11/08/2005 10:25:51 AM PST by Zathras
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To: TomasUSMC
The question is would the Government crack down harder on US for defending ourselves against a: RELIGION OF PEACE.

Do you honestly think the government would punish anyone for defending their homes during a riot?

I honestly think that the moslems would start things in the liberal states because that is where Americans have been deballed and disarmed.

Oh, please. If I was a Muslim wannabe revolutionary, I'd much rather take on the people and police in Atlanta than New York City.

Bush needs to do another Harriet and renounce his "Religion of Peace" statements.

Honest question: what good would that do?

125 posted on 11/08/2005 10:31:27 AM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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To: adam_az
I take it you haven't been to a university campus recently.

College kids believe a lot of stupid things, but their influence on society in general is more or less nil.

There is a rising group of Hispanic elites in this country who, like the Irish, Jews, Italians and every other immigrant group has done in American history, are taking a place at the table of power the old-fashioned way: politics and economics. The Aztlan jokers are just a sideshow.

126 posted on 11/08/2005 10:40:37 AM PST by Palisades (Cthulhu in 2008! Why settle for the lesser evil?)
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To: avant_garde

Does anyone doubt that if we gave them southern CA, Arizona and New Mexico today, it would be indistinguishable from old Mexico in 5 years?


127 posted on 11/08/2005 10:43:43 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Prime Choice
"They're already doing as much with wanton impunity under the condoning eye of the Leftists who run California. Hell, Leftists already refer to their past riots as "rebellions." It's guaranteed that any future riots will be quickly and unequivocably blamed on "white oppressors." And anyone who dares to disagree will be branded a "white racist" and run out of town. "

Additionally, people who defend themselves will be the ones put on trial by our local governments.

128 posted on 11/08/2005 10:51:27 AM PST by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, bama...banana rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: pissant
And if they riot, I'd have no problems shooting them.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.....

129 posted on 11/08/2005 11:14:03 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: avant_garde

The difference here is that we would fight back - we are not unarmed like most of France is


130 posted on 11/08/2005 11:15:15 AM PST by DM1
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To: avant_garde
INVASION USA???

Some one call Chuck!!


131 posted on 11/08/2005 11:17:22 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: varon

I'll let you try the Chirac approach.


132 posted on 11/08/2005 11:32:55 AM PST by pissant
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To: Diddle E. Squat
they soon don't give a damn about after they start working 40+ hours, paying a mortgage, and feeding a child.

Unfortunately, by then it's too late because the political forces that they have enabled have a life of their own. The radical boomers of the sixties are currently suffering from liberal policies they created. The Nazis were a minority in Germany but they were virulent enough that the rest of the political establishment was cowed into submission.

133 posted on 11/08/2005 11:33:23 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: avant_garde
it's only a matter of time before worse unrest hits the streets of America.

Yes it is. And when it does, our disgraceful and hypocritical brow-beating of Israel to "give back" "occupied" land will bite us squarely in the ass.

134 posted on 11/08/2005 11:37:23 AM PST by montag813
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To: DM1
The difference here is that we would fight back - we are not unarmed like most of France is

I would bet that the people will soon be disarmed in the states where this is happening. California gun laws are getting stricter. San Francisco is considering an outright ban on gun ownership. As the political climate becomes more liberal this will get worse.

135 posted on 11/08/2005 11:37:36 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Baynative
Not in MY neighborhood! ---Gar-un-DAMN-teed.

Garand-teed?

136 posted on 11/08/2005 11:38:46 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: HitmanNY
I'd bet on the NYPD though.

The NY Army National Guard might have a few things to say about the matter, as well. USA State Governors are generally much quicker to call out the NG than the Froggish authorities have been (in the present riots) to call out their equivalent.

137 posted on 11/08/2005 11:42:50 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Palisades
like the Irish, Jews, Italians and every other immigrant group has done in American history,

The difference is that all those groups came to America legally. Most of the Mexicans came here illegally. I believe that a person who is chooses to commit one illegal act is also inclined to commit other illegal acts and to look the other way when he sees someone else commit a crime.

138 posted on 11/08/2005 11:46:01 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: EQAndyBuzz
For all I care, they can take over Detroit, NY, Philly, St Louis and San Fran. Combine them and make one country called Liberalslovakiaslovenia.

In a way, it would be better for the rest of us if they did. It would be better than suffering from the politicians they would be sending to Congress to make obnoxious rules for decent people.

139 posted on 11/08/2005 11:50:56 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Nea Wood
It's altar boys who are streaming across the borders! Future priests and nuns!

LOL!

140 posted on 11/08/2005 11:56:24 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: ArrogantBustard

The NYPD is 30,000 strong and well trained in crowd control, etc. The National Guard in a riot situation in NYC would be a disaster.


141 posted on 11/08/2005 12:00:19 PM PST by durasell
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To: avant_garde

The scenario could happen here with the Mexicans and well as the Muslims.

When a nation decides the "stew " is better than the "melting pot" and encourages cultural and lingual separation you end up with socially isolated communities where even 2nd and 3rd generation "citizens" speak the primary language as a second language and are chronically underemployed leading to alienation from the general society and hold a lot of anger at the nation .

Look at Canada and the Francophones in Quebec, and we see a model for America in a generation.

The amazing thing is that the current administration (both parties) CHOOSE to be bind and deaf to the issues they are causing in order to line their campaign coffers .

They are selling not only our jobs to the lowest bidders, they are selling our personal safety.


A pox on all their houses


142 posted on 11/08/2005 12:01:49 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: Dan Evans

"I would bet that the people will soon be disarmed in the states where this is happening. California gun laws are getting stricter. San Francisco is considering an outright ban on gun ownership. As the political climate becomes more liberal this will get worse."
Hopefully gun rights groups will keep suing - hopefully get to a CONSERVATIVE supreme court and have our rights restored. Of course i am wishing a lot here but hey that is what wishes are for right :)


143 posted on 11/08/2005 12:13:07 PM PST by DM1
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To: Palisades
If I was a Muslim wannabe revolutionary, I'd much rather take on the people and police in Atlanta than New York City.
Well I don't agree with that. The NYPD may have more training and equipment but the people of New York are not as well armed nor as experienced as the people of Georgia with shooting. Although New Yorkers may be more experienced at getting shot at.

And once Bush does another Harriet and renounces his "Religion of Peace" statements,

- then we won't have to have such a kinder gentler nicer war strategy. No more rules for our Marines on how many pages they can touch of the Koran, no more allowing terrorist to use Mosques, no more of this NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM Constitutional crap, no more allowing Syria and Iran to support the killing of our troops with impunity.

After all we didn't have Roosevelt or Truman Eisenhower,or even LBJ,Kennedy,Nixon,nor Reagan tell us that the:
Nazis,
the Tojos,
the Russian/Chinese/North Vietnamese/Cuban Communists
were ideologies of Peace, did we?
Semper Fi
144 posted on 11/08/2005 1:05:16 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: avant_garde

The criminal element of both the Muslims and Mexicans could very well be the undoing of America. Along with massive debt owed to China, death of the middle class and slave labor. Just to name a few.


145 posted on 11/08/2005 3:31:09 PM PST by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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To: Palisades

"The Aztlan jokers are just a sideshow."

AZTLAN LEADER QUOTES

"While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California."
~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002.

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this."
~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997.

"Mexico extends beyond its borders."
~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001

"California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."
~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998

"Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes..." "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh!tting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."
~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos... non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000.

"Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group."
~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001.

"In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848."
~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002.

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
~Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985


146 posted on 11/08/2005 5:36:18 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: backhoe
There have been many fiction books, some of which have purported that while this was just "fiction:", it really was going to happen. The vast majority of such books are mere ravings. Yet, it would seem that "THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS" was grounded in reality and that the author could and did smell the coffee/see the writing on the wall.
147 posted on 11/08/2005 6:26:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Wolfhound777
ROTFL! They would all die in place in LA. He is assuming the response of the American people would be like the French government.

I was in LA for the last riot - there were reasons why it didn't spread, and if they think we'll respond like the French, they're simply ignoring history.

148 posted on 11/09/2005 4:43:53 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: stm

Give me a Rem 700 and a modded Glock 18. Long and short.


149 posted on 11/09/2005 6:30:17 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: SCalGal
I was in LA for the last riot - there were reasons why it didn't spread, and if they think we'll respond like the French, they're simply ignoring history.

It sounds like that would be an interesting history lesson :-)
150 posted on 11/09/2005 8:37:21 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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