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INVASION USA Could French-style riots happen here?
World Net Daily ^ | November 8, 2005

Posted on 11/07/2005 10:24:14 PM PST by avant_garde

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To: ArrogantBustard

The NYPD is 30,000 strong and well trained in crowd control, etc. The National Guard in a riot situation in NYC would be a disaster.


141 posted on 11/08/2005 12:00:19 PM PST by durasell
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To: avant_garde

The scenario could happen here with the Mexicans and well as the Muslims.

When a nation decides the "stew " is better than the "melting pot" and encourages cultural and lingual separation you end up with socially isolated communities where even 2nd and 3rd generation "citizens" speak the primary language as a second language and are chronically underemployed leading to alienation from the general society and hold a lot of anger at the nation .

Look at Canada and the Francophones in Quebec, and we see a model for America in a generation.

The amazing thing is that the current administration (both parties) CHOOSE to be bind and deaf to the issues they are causing in order to line their campaign coffers .

They are selling not only our jobs to the lowest bidders, they are selling our personal safety.


A pox on all their houses


142 posted on 11/08/2005 12:01:49 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: Dan Evans

"I would bet that the people will soon be disarmed in the states where this is happening. California gun laws are getting stricter. San Francisco is considering an outright ban on gun ownership. As the political climate becomes more liberal this will get worse."
Hopefully gun rights groups will keep suing - hopefully get to a CONSERVATIVE supreme court and have our rights restored. Of course i am wishing a lot here but hey that is what wishes are for right :)


143 posted on 11/08/2005 12:13:07 PM PST by DM1
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To: Palisades
If I was a Muslim wannabe revolutionary, I'd much rather take on the people and police in Atlanta than New York City.
Well I don't agree with that. The NYPD may have more training and equipment but the people of New York are not as well armed nor as experienced as the people of Georgia with shooting. Although New Yorkers may be more experienced at getting shot at.

And once Bush does another Harriet and renounces his "Religion of Peace" statements,

- then we won't have to have such a kinder gentler nicer war strategy. No more rules for our Marines on how many pages they can touch of the Koran, no more allowing terrorist to use Mosques, no more of this NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM Constitutional crap, no more allowing Syria and Iran to support the killing of our troops with impunity.

After all we didn't have Roosevelt or Truman Eisenhower,or even LBJ,Kennedy,Nixon,nor Reagan tell us that the:
Nazis,
the Tojos,
the Russian/Chinese/North Vietnamese/Cuban Communists
were ideologies of Peace, did we?
Semper Fi
144 posted on 11/08/2005 1:05:16 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: avant_garde

The criminal element of both the Muslims and Mexicans could very well be the undoing of America. Along with massive debt owed to China, death of the middle class and slave labor. Just to name a few.


145 posted on 11/08/2005 3:31:09 PM PST by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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To: Palisades

"The Aztlan jokers are just a sideshow."

AZTLAN LEADER QUOTES

"While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California."
~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002.

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this."
~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997.

"Mexico extends beyond its borders."
~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001

"California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."
~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998

"Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes..." "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh!tting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."
~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos... non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000.

"Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group."
~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001.

"In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848."
~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002.

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
~Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985


146 posted on 11/08/2005 5:36:18 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: backhoe
There have been many fiction books, some of which have purported that while this was just "fiction:", it really was going to happen. The vast majority of such books are mere ravings. Yet, it would seem that "THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS" was grounded in reality and that the author could and did smell the coffee/see the writing on the wall.
147 posted on 11/08/2005 6:26:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Wolfhound777
ROTFL! They would all die in place in LA. He is assuming the response of the American people would be like the French government.

I was in LA for the last riot - there were reasons why it didn't spread, and if they think we'll respond like the French, they're simply ignoring history.

148 posted on 11/09/2005 4:43:53 PM PST by SCalGal
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To: stm

Give me a Rem 700 and a modded Glock 18. Long and short.


149 posted on 11/09/2005 6:30:17 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: SCalGal
I was in LA for the last riot - there were reasons why it didn't spread, and if they think we'll respond like the French, they're simply ignoring history.

It sounds like that would be an interesting history lesson :-)
150 posted on 11/09/2005 8:37:21 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: struggle
"We carry guns"

They carry guns with no compunction against using them.
151 posted on 11/10/2005 5:55:12 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

"The Tancredo freaks will deny such and talk about Aztlan, but the number of Hispanics who takes the Aztlan nonsense seriously is near zero."

Forgot to indicate sarcasm.


152 posted on 11/10/2005 6:06:01 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: rightwinggoth

Why would a television have a fold out stock? I believe that you are a liberal (or at least a product of the public school system). Your sentence structure sucks.


153 posted on 11/10/2005 6:14:56 AM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Our immigrants assimilate and integrate, they have jobs, and they move up the economic ladder. Every 2nd generation immigrant speaks and reads English. The Tancredo freaks will deny such and talk about Aztlan, but the number of Hispanics who takes the Aztlan nonsense seriously is near zero.

Astute comment. From personal experience I can add that France and Germany are much less tolerant towards immigrants and do not integrate with them socially, linguistically or in the workplace. The main problem is intolerant Europeans (even towards other Europeans) but it is exacerbated by the socialism and multiculturism that the politicians put out. The socialism is real but the multicultural is lip service and cultural understanding and acceptance is very low on both sides.

154 posted on 11/10/2005 6:16:17 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: GuineaRabbit

We can name the 10 cities where it is very likely. But we also can point out the six that will never have such a thing: Phoenix (too hot 8 months of the year), Tucson (ditto), Nashville (the cops would drag you down to the state line and dump you off), Spokane (the right-wing fellas would come to visit you at your house), Boise (same story), Mobile (the locals would bring in the Baptist bunch and you'd just have to leave town), and finally....Oklahoma City (they won't tolerate anything other than whooping and hollering...beyond that...you'd best leave town).


155 posted on 11/10/2005 6:20:28 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: avant_garde

The mayor of L.A. will cheer them on and expect at high govt. job in the new Aztlan regime.


156 posted on 11/10/2005 6:25:34 AM PST by hershey
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To: Diddle E. Squat; All
Every 2nd generation immigrant speaks and reads English. The Tancredo freaks will deny such and talk about Aztlan, but the number of Hispanics who takes the Aztlan nonsense seriously is near zero.

No, every 2nd generation immigrant does not speak English. Many refuse. And that old worn out “Tancredoite” blather? It seems you sound like what Bill Clinton said yesterday. Does that make you a “Clintonite”? I suggest you check out the Aztlan movement if you erroneously believe their members are near “zero”.

What is a Colonia? Texas Secretary of State's Definition: The term "colonia," in Spanish means a community or neighborhood. The Office of the Secretary of State defines a "colonia" as a residential area along the Texas-Mexico border that may lack some of the most basic living necessities, such as potable water and sewer systems, electricity, paved roads, and safe and sanitary housing. n recent years the Texas-Mexico border region has experienced an explosion of growth in population and industrial activity. Among the border states, Texas has the largest number of colonias approximately 1,800 communities, with more than 500,000 residents. Sixty-five percent of all residents, and 85% of residents under the age of 18, were born in the United States. (aka Anchor babies) These Americans live in extreme poverty and often are unaware of the services that the United States and Texas can provide for them. Ninety-eight percent of the residents are Hispanic and speak little or no English. (see photos - http://www-apps.niehs.nih.gov/outreach-education/News/spotarch/spot0503.cfm)

157 posted on 11/10/2005 9:13:08 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement (You canít tell someone much about a boxing glove until it hits them in the face.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Sorry, you've spammed the wrong person. I've actually worked on a Colonia project, and while they are very problematic, the implication that anywhere close to 98% (or 85% or 65%, that was a deftly worded quote) of the anchor children don't speak English is BS (at least for those who've received several years of schooling.) It isn't the language of the home, but those kids learn it. Another issue on why Colonias linger is that instead of moving out once they can afford to do so, many of the residents chose to apply their wages to improving their shacks and properties. These don't meet codes, but some are rather elaborate.


158 posted on 11/10/2005 9:27:11 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Wolfhound777
"Can a similar insurrection occur in the USA?" asks Ernesto Cienfuegos of La Voz de Aztlan."

Just bring it you Castro/Chavez loving Commie!

159 posted on 11/10/2005 1:00:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: backhoe

I tried to read Camp of the Saints, but after 30 pages it was just too slow to keep going.


160 posted on 11/10/2005 1:34:01 PM PST by BostonianRightist (Justice: A Dish Best Served Swiftly)
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