Skip to comments.INVASION USA Could French-style riots happen here?
Posted on 11/07/2005 10:24:14 PM PST by avant_garde
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I am offended by that weapon because I am a liberal and I once saw a man get killed with a rifle that had a bipod and a fold-out stock on television.
I'm not about to defend illegal immigration or the people that employ illegal immigrants, but our problem is NOT the same as Eurabia's. OUR immigrants are (mostly) hardworking, devout people from heavily Catholic countries.
While their unwillingness to assimilate IS a problem for us longterm (culturally), at least we don't have the worries about "convert or die" that old Europe is now facing.
Still in all, even with 60 million illegals, we STILL will outnumber and outgun them.
I always said the smart people would leave shuch Sh-holes given a decent opportunity to do so.
That says a lot for Congress, doesn't it?
Or Toledo Ohio?
Again, NYC has a large muslim population. Most are solidly middleclass, mostly small businessmen. These are are class of people that tend not to riot. For instance, the guy from the limo service isn't going to run out in the street and smash the window of the grocery owned by his second cousin...
Their petulant, obnoxious kids might riot, though. Or at the very least, go to another neighborhood for their shenanigans.
I'd bet on the NYPD though.
Just wanted to add Benton Harbor,MI. As posted on the FR about a year ago.
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Suburban police chase sparks riots in Benton Harbor (The latest)
A fatal chase by suburban police ignited two nights of rioting in this city that for years has struggled with poverty, high unemployment and racial tensions.
The rioters shot one person in the shoulder and beat and stabbed others Tuesday night, police said. At least five buildings and five cars were set on fire. In all, 10 to 15 people were hurt, none critically. "It is so unnecessary. It is unbelievable to see this in our community,"...
I'd bet on the NYPD to cower behind blockades. I know they did a good job on 9-11 and all, but the PC crap is infecting them again now that Rudy is gone.
forgot Jersy City
That's true. There is a bad element among the kids. I've seen them. They dress like hip hop punks.
In 15 to 25 years, they won't need to fire a shot. They'll vote themselves into power.
We'll have done it to ourselves. Incremental, slow motion national suicide. It's happening as we speak, and has been for over 20 years now.
A government that can not or will not protect it's borders sovereignty and legitimate laws, will itself eventually become illegitimate and lose all control.
You know very little about the NYPD.
the guy from the limo service isn't going to run out in the street and smash the window of the grocery owned by his second cousin...
Great. Now you've scared me out of taking car service...
I think if stuff like that started, the plice and citizens would end it with bullets quick.
I haven't lived in city limits since early 2002, so I'll take your word for it.
Crown Heights, if you remember, started off real small. Then it grew -- never huge, but big enough -- through neglect. The cops in Paris should have taken a course in it.
The individual cops in the NYPD never lost their stones during Dinkins, but it got to the point where it was just ridiculous. It became a question of: Why bother? Remember when Dinkins sided with the drug dealer uptown?
Why Spanish? The Spaniard invaded and claimed by right of conquest the area that they like to refer to as Republica del Norte from the indigenous people. Furthermore they enslaved those living here, tossed them off their land and forced them to change their religions. The people living in the area claimed as Republica del Norte are not related linguistically to the Spanish or the Aztecs or the other tribes around Mexico City. It seems to me that if they have no more right to the Republica del Norte than we do and we also provide a better life for our people than they do in their own countries. That's why they keep fleeing here rather than staying in their own countries.
Yep, especially regarding the Dinkins crew neglect that made Crown Heights into a much bigger problem. Shameful.
And yeah, the cops were the good guys under Dinkins, but they were handcuffed by City Hall. "Why bother?"
What was that foul word a very irate Rudy G was using at a hot police rally outside of City Hall that day? "Bull$hit!!" I think that clip was even used by the Dinkins tv campaign in the second Rudy-Dinkins mayors race. What they didn't understand was that it expressed the sentiment of too many NYers: it was an effective ad, AGAINST DINKINS!.
Still, Rudy first lost a close race to Dinkins then won a close race to Dinkins. A city divided, all that jazz.
I bet Dinkins and crew in City Hall were peeking out the windows and had all sorts of foul words that day!
Probably, but we outnumber them considerably.
Man, that brings back the memories.
Still you give Rudy too much credit. It was Bratton et al who turned the NYPD into a 21st century police department.
Truthfully, I never liked Rudy that much. Now I miss him. Bloomberg is just bland. I suspect he's a hologram.
I give Rudy a lot of credit but I also give Bratton a lot of credit, too, and take nothing away from him at all. I only bring up Rudy since he was the Capo during that era - he gave Bratton the ball, and of course took it away when Bratton was self promoting too much (which is to say, (self promoting at all").
I liked Rudy's personality, and his 'my way of the highway' combativeness, which we saw almost daily with the hostile press corps. I don't blame him - they hated his guts from day one and he knew it. To treat them any other way would be uncivilized.
Stuff like that makes me imagine what a Rudy press conference would be like with the White House press corps! :-)
Rudy was self-promoting from day one. Years ago in an il-advised publicity stunt he dressed up like a biker with Al D and went up to buy crack in Washington Heights. They looked so dumb, the story was lost in the guffaws. Then there was the whole business about walking the Wall Streeters out in handcuffs...
But he was a fighter. Bloomberg is just the blandest of the bland. Personally, I'd like to see Kelly run for Mayor.
My cats would rip them to shreds!
We have guns; they have leaf blowers. It could happen here, but they'll run out of gas before we run out of bullets.
...and we're not French.
You really do need to watch more Star Trek.
Food is always the first thing to be assimilated...
Are you kidding?
Bubba would finally wash and wax his truck for 'bait.'
As I told someone last night, any of this nonsense around Southern cities and the residents of the outlying areas would pack a lunch to get an early start.
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP )? Click this picture:
No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.
May I call attention to my tagline?
Read the book, saw the movie three times...in reference to your tagline.
Or Toledo Ohio?
Or New Orleans, LA?
Some are drawing parallels to "The Camp of the Saints"-- a book I read as a teenager. There are enough similarities to make the hair rise on my neck- it's kind of spooky.
Never heard of that book...who's the author?
In the not-as-urban areas, they won't get a block and a half without being piked on the roadside.
Many thanks for the title, author and history of this book. Now, I want to read it!
Yup, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Don't see it happening here, but if somehow the same crap gets started here it will end pretty damn fast.
The LA riot partly proved many of those in the city will do NOTHING. If it does begin, expect "disadvantaged" yoots of all colors to be involved in looting and burning.
The riots may begin there, but it's gonna be those from the sticks to put any insurrection tits up; it'll be up to those who've mastered the art of hollow point and double ought diplomacy in lieu of PC dialogue to end it.
It's funny how memory plays tricks on you- I'd swear I read it as a teenager, but the date clearly places it right before my first marriage, when I was older.
I remember buying it specifically because some reviewer I liked recommended it as a "disturbing read."
It seems like I read it about the same time as Roberto Vacca's "The Coming Dark Age"-- a book whose premise didn't pan out, but which was interesting reading anyway- not so much from the contents of the book ( which I've forgotten ), but from the preface.
Vacca was a computer systems analyst who helped businesses upgrade from manual book-keeping to computerized systems, and he mentioned in the preface that the actual improvement in business operations came not from adding a computer, but from going over their operations and streamlining the process so the computer could understand it.
In other words, as a business grew, its record-keeping and book-keeping operations got overloaded with useless features, redundancies, pointless entries, and when he went over it and tossed all that stuff out, it streamlined the process more than adding the number-cruncher.
That parallels my own experience running businesses-- you accumulate a lot of tophamper and baggage as you go along that really isn't necessary, and sometimes it takes an outsider to look at things and see just how much you can safely jettison.
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We own guns Ernesto, and we will use them to protect our lives and property. Bring it on POS!
Sounds like Pat read "The Camp of the Saints"
Paris Burning: How Empires End
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted Nov 7, 2005
The soaring Muslim population is a Fifth Column inside Europe.
Nevertheless, their numbers must grow. For not only do they have a higher birth rate than the native-born Europeans, no European nation, save Moslem Albania, has a birth rate (2.1 births per woman) that will enable it to endure for many more generations. The West is aging, shrinking, and dying.
Yet, to keep Europes economy growing and taxes coming in to fund the health and pension programs of Europes rising numbers of retired and elderly, Europe needs scores of millions of new workers. And Europe can only find them in the Third World.
Nor should Americans take comfort in Frances distress. By 2050, there will be 100 million Hispanics in the United States, half of them of Mexican ancestry, heavily concentrated in a Southwest most Mexicans still believe by right belongs to them.
Colonization of the mother countries by subject peoples is the last chapter in the history of empiresand the next chapter in the history of the Westthat is now coming to a close.
"Camp of the Saints" ( which I read years & years ago ) seems to be staging a revival.
I think my guns would keep my car safe.