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VHS to DVD Software Recommendations Wanted
11/8/05

Posted on 11/08/2005 10:40:23 AM PST by pabianice

I have about 200 hours of home movie videos on VHS. My VCR is on its last legs.

Can anyone recommend VHS to DVD software that is fast, easy, and inexpensive?

Thanks.


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KEYWORDS: dvd; vcr; vhs; videoediting
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1 posted on 11/08/2005 10:40:23 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Have you looked at Beta? Very promising technology...


2 posted on 11/08/2005 10:41:36 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: YouPosting2Me

I recently bought the Winstar 2000 analogue video card and IT'S GOLD! Cost about $200. Just make sure you use a stereo VCR with 4 heads when you transfer the vids to your hard drive.


3 posted on 11/08/2005 10:42:44 AM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: pabianice

Get a Panasonic DVD burner with a hard drive. Mine has an 80GB hard drive. Very easy to transfer and edit your VHS tapes using this device.


4 posted on 11/08/2005 10:43:31 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Tom DeLay)
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To: pabianice

Just get yourself an ATI all-in-wonder (whatever number is cheapest) and record them onto your hard-drive in mpeg format. You can then recompress them to whatever format you would like later.

Get a big hard drive (to store video data) and a damn fast computer because recompressing them (should you so desire) can be very cpu intensive.


5 posted on 11/08/2005 10:43:48 AM PST by Smogger
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To: pabianice

Unless you just like the doing of it yourself, consider using a service to do it for you.


6 posted on 11/08/2005 10:44:04 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: pabianice

your answers are at this website. www.vcdhelp.com


7 posted on 11/08/2005 10:44:53 AM PST by fatrat
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To: Smogger

I just got the WinTV-USB2 myself and I like it a lot. Haven't tried the VHS to DVD yet but I intend to this weekend.


8 posted on 11/08/2005 10:46:16 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: pabianice

Analog to DVD translation is EXTREMELY processor intensive so while it is compiling, you can forget using your computer for anything else. I would get a DVD recorder with a built in hard drive that would allow you to download a whole tape and then edit and record it to a DVD.


9 posted on 11/08/2005 10:46:29 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: pabianice
I just bought a GO-VIDEO dual DVD/VHS recorder off of Ebay.

It's great. I'm dubbing all my VHS home movies to DVD without bogging down my PC. (Can't let anything get in the way of Freeping!)

10 posted on 11/08/2005 10:48:55 AM PST by FReepaholic (Taglines? We don't need no stinking taglines.)
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To: pabianice
If you are going to use your computer make sure that you have a lot of Hard disc space. Also be prepared that while ripping and burning these DVDs with your PC you won't be doing lots of other stuff with it.

If you want my opinion (and I use both methods) go with a standalone DVD recorder. You can get one for as little as $100 and a really really good one between $200 and $300. Even the one for $100 (Cyberhome) is pretty good and does the job.

The task of getting those videos onto the hard drive and then editing and burning to DVD is quite a task and very time consuming. Copying from VHS to DVD recorder with a standalone takes only as long as the tape you are copying.

Hope that helps.
11 posted on 11/08/2005 10:49:20 AM PST by Mixer
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To: pabianice

I use the Sony DVDirect (VRDVC20) DVD±RW Dual Layer Burner. Use only Maxell blank DVDs with this unit. All others do not work on a stand alone mod.


12 posted on 11/08/2005 10:51:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: pabianice
...I have about 200 hours of home movie videos ...

You'll need 200 DVD's, by the way.

I found out very quickly that home movies look like crap on DVD if you don't use the higest quality setting, which only allows 1 hour of record time on the DVD.

13 posted on 11/08/2005 10:51:50 AM PST by FReepaholic (Taglines? We don't need no stinking taglines.)
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To: pabianice

I'd consider doing it hardware only. If you don't want to transfer the stuff to digital, and play with it (I'm teaching myself how to do this for practice on a professional program) a VHS to DVD machine maybe the right choice. The information will be archived on a relatively safe media, compared to tape. Your tapes are deteriating, and you will notice the difference.

Once you get the stuff archived to digital, you will have time to research other stuff. I have a 250 gig Lacie firewire external HD for storage and it will hold about 20 hours of RAW video, uncompressed.

If you don't know what I am talking about, read this article.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,117413,00.asp

It is a year old, so prices have dropped and there are more options.

But if you really want to get into the digital world, visit some of the places the videoguys habitate on. They have a lot of good views.

http://www.videoguys.com/

Good luck!
DK


14 posted on 11/08/2005 10:54:26 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: pabianice
You need some hardware to do what you are suggesting, which is actually to capture the analog ouput of your VCR player to a file on your hard drive.

The cheapest way is to purchase a cheap TV tuner card like

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815100129

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122180

The second card is a little more expensive, but can run on a 300 MHz PC.

After installing the tuner card, you hook up the output of your VCR to the coaxial input of the tuner. You then play the VCR and record an MPEG file to your hard drive.

Here is free software you can use to burn the file to to your DVD-RW drive.

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

15 posted on 11/08/2005 10:55:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: pabianice

I have a LiteOn DVD-VHS recorder (Model #: LVC-9006). Simplest thing to do is copy from VHS to DVD. Simply insert a tape into the tape deck and the DVD disk into the tray. Push one button (Copy) and the task is done.


16 posted on 11/08/2005 10:57:00 AM PST by scouse
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To: pabianice

go to ebay and search for Studio 9 software.

For two hundred hours of VHS tape you will need approximately 200 GB of storage.


17 posted on 11/08/2005 10:58:41 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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To: scouse

I have a LiteOn DVD-VHS recorder (Model #: LVC-9006). Simplest thing to do is copy from VHS to DVD. Simply insert a tape into the tape deck and the DVD disk into the tray. Push one button (Copy) and the task is done.

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Good idea.

Can you then copy it to your computer????




18 posted on 11/08/2005 10:59:32 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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To: Dark Knight

I have a somewhat high-end editing setup (PowerMac G5 with Final Cut Pro), but sometimes I would love to have a simple DVD recorder with a built-in hard drive so I can skip some of the steps.

If you just want to archive them without enhancement, go as simple as possible and get a DVD recorder, possibly one with a VHS built in.


19 posted on 11/08/2005 11:01:47 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Rather than coax, try to use RCA patch cords (or better yet, SVHS patch cords) to connect the video to the TV card in the computer.

Also, Virtual VCR is free. Capture the video using Huffy lossless compression (giant AVI files), then compress using DIVX or XVID (see if you can find Dr. Divx software).

That's how I do it.

20 posted on 11/08/2005 11:03:19 AM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Petronski
Rather than coax, try to use RCA patch cords (or better yet, SVHS patch cords) to connect the video to the TV card in the computer.

My eight-year old VCR only has coax. I am evidently behind the times.

21 posted on 11/08/2005 11:06:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: bmwcyle

does it really work well, and what about the amount time you can record. see the post below, I have thinking about this for my VHS collection of movies, and home movies as well.


22 posted on 11/08/2005 11:07:04 AM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: pabianice

Anyone look at, or try the vhs tape / dvd burner combos?
I think a standalone would be a nice solution.


23 posted on 11/08/2005 11:08:40 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: YouPosting2Me
I got a Panasonic DVD+R Recorder for Christmas two years ago. To transfer my VHS to DVD, I have just hooked up my VCR to it using the input video/audio jacks and recorded on it using my VHS as the source. It was pretty easy.
24 posted on 11/08/2005 11:08:43 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: vin-one

You can set different recording speeds.


25 posted on 11/08/2005 11:08:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: pabianice
I am currently working on the exact same kind of project as you!

For the VHS-to-digital capture, I have had very good results with a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 at < $100. My DVD burner came with some basic DVD authoring software, which will work fine for basic stuff. I also bought Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5 at < $80 for its more powerful features, like adding audio on top of the existing VHS audio for example.

Hope that helps.

26 posted on 11/08/2005 11:09:15 AM PST by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ah, yes. Coax works. RCA is a cleaner picture. SVHS is even cleaner.

Folks should use the best option available.


27 posted on 11/08/2005 11:10:05 AM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: SlowBoat407

I'm using Sony Vegas 6 with DVD Architect. The Intel stuff. I have a Sony Mini DV camera and just have the stereo and video outputs record to my MiniDV camera, and then everything is digital. There is a mini DV record tape of the VHS whilst I play. But this is not 200 hours of stuff.

The Go VHS to DVD sounds like a good solution.

DK


28 posted on 11/08/2005 11:10:08 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Can you then copy it to your computer????

I haven't tried. I have been making them and giving them to friends.

29 posted on 11/08/2005 11:10:24 AM PST by scouse
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To: pabianice

Why not DVD to your HDD? Then, if you like, HDD to DVD.


30 posted on 11/08/2005 11:15:05 AM PST by harpu
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To: vin-one
Before I started my transferring I had a collection of about 400 VHS tapes stored in a separate room off our home theater. It was pretty crowded in there. I am a classic movie fan, so many of these were movies recorded from TCM and AMC or purchase them from collectors if they were very very rare.

I have transfered all the rare ones to DVD from VHS, and rerecorded the others when they showed back up on TCM so I can get the best quality.

My collection now is nearing 900, and I am only using a fraction of the space I use to.
31 posted on 11/08/2005 11:17:21 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: harpu
Oops..."Why not DVD to your HDD?"

Meant to say..."Why not VHS to your HDD?">

32 posted on 11/08/2005 11:27:56 AM PST by harpu
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Yes, you can. You can then also edit the resulting mpeg stream using any good mpeg editor and burn it back out to DVD.

Be aware, though that if you want to migrate commercial VHS tapes to DVD, you will need something to strip out the macrovision.

Here's my setup (because I'm not going to pay another $20 to get the same thing I already paid $20 for just to get it in DVD format.)

  1. Phillips DVD Recorder
  2. Pyro A/V converter
  3. iMac G5
  4. Toast Titanium

Here's what I do:

  1. Plug the RCA out from the VCR into the RCA in on the Pyro.
  2. Plug the RCA out on the Pyro to the RCA in on the DVD Recorder.
  3. Turn on the Pyro.
  4. Start the tape.
  5. Press record on the DVD recorder.
  6. When done take the DVD to my iMac.
  7. Open the first vob file in the video_TS folder
  8. Edit the stream as desired (usually to cut out all the Disney commercials they put on the front of their Videos).
  9. Save the edited stream.
  10. Drop the stream into Toast.
  11. Burn the DVD.

33 posted on 11/08/2005 11:28:49 AM PST by frgoff
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To: frgoff

Be aware, though that if you want to migrate commercial VHS tapes to DVD, you will need something to strip out the macrovision.

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Everything I have is from home videocam.

Good system setup here.

thanks.


34 posted on 11/08/2005 11:30:45 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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To: pabianice

I use a Pioneer DVR-320. I wish I'd bought theDVR-520H model with the hard drive, though.

Works great, in real-time, plus a few minutes per disc to finalize.

The time this saves you over a software solution is well worth the money, IMO.


35 posted on 11/08/2005 11:36:14 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Smogger
Just get yourself an ATI all-in-wonder (whatever number is cheapest) and record them onto your hard-drive in mpeg format. You can then recompress them to whatever format you would like later.

I did. I just built two systems, 3 GHzP4's, 2 Gigs RAM each, SATA drives.

I also bought two ATI AIW 9600/128's.

ATI's AIWs were always the standard..we had one on an old W98 machine.

However, before getting them for Win XP, first do the following Google searches and save yourself time and money.

1) Search "ATI Win XP Crash" .

2) Search ATI "Never Again".

There are some grave driver problems.

Don't take my word for it: Check the WinXP hardware newsgroups and do the google searches.

I removed the AIW from one machine and donated it to a charity. The replacement EVGA|GF FX 5500 256MB that made the first machine fast and crash proof has been ordered today for the second machine as well.

I will keep one of the ATI's for the day they get their driver problems fixed, but in the meantime need a running machine in that room, and am though with all the reinstall/dl latest driver of the day/BS.

36 posted on 11/08/2005 11:36:37 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: pabianice

ping for VHS-DVD info


37 posted on 11/08/2005 11:37:45 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: pabianice

2nd reply - I said I wished I'd bought the DVR-520H with the hard drive. If you're only needing to make one DVD title of each VHS cassette, you don't need a hard drive in the DVD recorder.

The hard drive allows you to burn multiple DVD discs of the same material without re-capturing to the recorder. Saves a lot of time, but if you don't need that, buy the DVR-320.

This is a very solid recommendation.


38 posted on 11/08/2005 11:40:56 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: NavyCanDo
rerecorded the others when they showed back up on TCM

I assume what you mean is that you use the video card in your PC to record straight off the TCM feed, that's what I have done for years.

Ted Turner is a liberal a$$hat of the first rank but I still tip my hat to him for the TCM channel.

39 posted on 11/08/2005 11:54:37 AM PST by Uncle Fud (Imagine the President calling fascism a "religion of peace" in 1942)
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To: tscislaw

What model did you get? (GO-Video)


40 posted on 11/08/2005 11:55:45 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: pabianice

Bought a Pinnacle Studio 500-USB yesterday to do the same thing. I'm trying to learn how to use it right now. It includes the software and an analog capture device. It was $79 at Circuit City (including a $20 mail-in rebate). It takes a relatively powerful computer, DVD burner and a USB 2.


41 posted on 11/08/2005 11:59:40 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: pabianice

Also, I had to get a new VCR last month. A new Zenith was only $44.


42 posted on 11/08/2005 12:00:37 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Get a new dual-core CPU so you have one CPU to post on FR while the video is getting crunched on the other CPU. Works great!


43 posted on 11/08/2005 12:23:22 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: pabianice

There's a very effective way to do it with hardware, if you want to make the purchase. Buy yourself a DVD recorder (currently about $300 and up) with RCA video inputs. Plug your VHS into the recorder, follow the instructions, and copy your VHS tapes to DVDs.


44 posted on 11/08/2005 12:41:13 PM PST by libstripper
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To: pabianice

If the movies are copy protected the easiest, fastest and cheapest way is to buy a "Video Stabilizer". They cost about 20 bucks on ebay and hooks up in between your VCR and DVD recorder. It Allows you to record by blocking the Macrovision copy-write protection and actually improves the picture at the same time.


45 posted on 11/08/2005 2:34:24 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Jalapeno
...What model did you get? (GO-Video) ...

I have the VR3840.

46 posted on 11/08/2005 4:31:44 PM PST by FReepaholic (I don't look good naked anymore.)
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To: pabianice; All

Well I have another question for y'all, now that I'm totally fed up with everything from Nero to Ulead DVD Movie Factory..................

Who makes a bulletproof DVD copying package??? No, I don't care about "ripping" movie DVD's.........just copying homemade ones DVD to DVD. That's all. Doesn't ANYONE make a g***amned package for DVD burning that actually WORKS??????

Color me "frustrated".


47 posted on 11/08/2005 4:38:10 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: pabianice

If you wish to go from VHS to DVD with no or minimal editing, titling or special effects, the Freepers who have recommended a DVD recorder or VHS player/DVD recorder have given you the best solution.

Using a capture card or other external device to copy the tape to your hard drive must occur in real time -- in other words, it will take you two hours to record that two hour movie to your hard drive. Then you have to edit and render it to MPEG-2 for burning to DVD, and this can be VERY time-consuming. Seriously, even a fairly fast PC can take from 3 to 5 hours (or more) to render a 2-hour MPEG. If you're not shooting or creating your own videos, it doesn't make a lot of sense to waste this much time on a simple transfer.

In addition, older tapes, particularly ones recorded at the old "LP" speed can be very problematic, with dropouts causing dropped frames during capture. This very often leads to loss of audio/video sync, not to mention clumps of your hair being torn out by the roots, at your own hands.

Above all -- although it can work very well and is very easy to use -- consider that the Pinnacle software recommended in this thread is akin to playing Russian roulette. It can be hideously, frustratingly, infuriatingly beastly. If you're one of the unlucky ones -- and there are many -- who can't get it to work correctly, it will drive you mad. Forget the PC Magazine reviews, visit the Studio 9 and 10 forums at pinnaclesys.com or read the reviews at amazon.com or epinions.com.

Finally, go back and reread the first sentence of my post. If your task is this simple, do yourself a favor and go this route.


48 posted on 11/08/2005 4:57:11 PM PST by DJ Frisat
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To: RightOnline

For simply coping non-copyright protected DVDs, I have had good luck with Roxio Easy Media Creator, using the Creator Classic module as a disc copier.

You can still download DVD Shrink for free, although I hear the version for decrypting commercial DVDs is no longer easy to find. DVD Shrink is a wonderful tool at just the right price! Since you say ripping is not of interest, this is a good free thing to try.


49 posted on 11/08/2005 5:02:18 PM PST by DJ Frisat
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To: Uncle Fud
" assume what you mean is that you use the video card in your PC to record straight off the TCM feed, that's what I have done for years."

Nope, I use a DVD+R Recorder recording directly from our Direct TV broadcast onto a DVD. 80% of my recording is off of TCM, the rest is off of Pay-Per View when on the rare occasion they play something worth owning.
50 posted on 11/08/2005 5:34:23 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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