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Students Wear KKK Outfits At Halloween Dance, Community Concerned
Channel Cincinnati ^ | Today | Deborah Haas, Mark Sickmiller

Posted on 11/08/2005 12:58:38 PM PST by day10

A dozen Tri-state high school students made quite a scene at the school halloween dance when they put on Ku Klux Klan outfits.

Students and administrators in Rising Sun, Indiana, say they're upset it happened and shocked the students would do it.

The principal made the students take off the outfits right away, but the damage was done.

9News learned the students were told they have to go through sensitivity training or risk suspension.

People in the community are also being asked to reach out to each other.

"I think you're surprised if one person shows up [in KKK garb], but sometimes good people, whether they're adults or kids, do things that aren't the best and make bad decisions and that's what we had. We had about 12 individuals make a very bad decision," said Superintendent Steve Patz.

The superintendent says neither he, nor any administrators, heard rumblings this might happen.

The students, all boys, came to the dance wearing sheets, dressed as ghosts and pulled out hoods a little later.

Students didn't want to talk on camera, but said they were surprised -- even offended.

The students involved will do civil rights research and write papers and the staff will work to improve the way the school teaches issues of tolerance and sensitivity.

The superintendent knows that everyone knows what happened in the small town and everyone knows who's involved. That's why he wants the community to help with the solution.

"I think it gets back to the education we need to do not only as a school but as a community about why these things are unacceptable," said Patz.

Church leaders are being asked to use their influence.

"As a pastor, I care about all the people in this community, regardless of race, and we want to be able to reach out to bring some understanding of what happened and probably some education needs to take place," said Dan Hunt of Bethel Unity Baptist Church.

There was one African-American girl at the dance, 9News learned.

Although the superintendent says he's under the impression the act wasn't done maliciously, it doesn't matter.

He says this kind of action regarding race, religion, cultures -- just can't happen.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: halloween; indiana; kkk; risingsun; whitesheets
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1 posted on 11/08/2005 12:58:39 PM PST by day10
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To: day10
Although the superintendent says he's under the impression the act wasn't done maliciously, it doesn't matter.

I dont condone such costumes. Cartman is the only who can pull this off.

2 posted on 11/08/2005 1:00:57 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: day10

"He says this kind of action regarding race, religion, cultures -- just can't happen."

...unless the target is conservative blacks, Christianity or Western Culture.


3 posted on 11/08/2005 1:03:18 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: day10

Are you telling me that here in the land of the free and the home of the brave a young child is not permitted to dress as the distinguished senior Senator of West Virginia for Hallowe'en?


4 posted on 11/08/2005 1:04:59 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: day10

If they had dressed up a gangbangers, this never would have been a story.

But, which has killed more black people in the last 10 years? 25 years? 50 years?


5 posted on 11/08/2005 1:06:01 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: smith288

"Adolf Hitler was a very bad man"


6 posted on 11/08/2005 1:07:13 PM PST by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: wideawake

That costume only works if you buy it with other kids money.


7 posted on 11/08/2005 1:08:14 PM PST by Sociopathocracy (The Left and Islamo-fascism, the twin cancers of human history.)
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To: Skooz; mhking; MikeinIraq; Petronski
If they had dressed up a gangbangers, this never would have been a story.

But, which has killed more black people in the last 10 years? 25 years? 50 years?

There it is! There it is. I knew it would not take long before such rhetoric would be used. A total changing of the subject.


8 posted on 11/08/2005 1:09:06 PM PST by rdb3 (Get rid of all of the repetitive redundancy, why don't ya?)
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To: smith288

9 posted on 11/08/2005 1:09:48 PM PST by Crazieman (6-23-2005, Establishment of the United Socialist States of America)
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To: wideawake

"Are you telling me that here in the land of the free and the home of the brave a young child is not permitted to dress as the distinguished senior Senator of West Virginia for Hallowe'en?"


LOL! Right on!


10 posted on 11/08/2005 1:10:45 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: smith288

>>Students and administrators in Rising Sun, Indiana, say they're upset it happened and shocked the students would do it.<<
This coming from town named after the Japansese flag during WWII.


11 posted on 11/08/2005 1:10:50 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: andyk

"Jerry Seinfeld is a very bad man!"
--Baboo


12 posted on 11/08/2005 1:11:22 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: wideawake

You win the thread, congratulations. That was the funniest thing I've read all day.


13 posted on 11/08/2005 1:12:28 PM PST by Join Or Die
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To: rdb3
The essence of the subject is whether or not any parents were aware of and/or approved of this "costume."

There's a deeper story here.

14 posted on 11/08/2005 1:12:33 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: smith288

Cartman made a better Hitler.


15 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:13 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: day10
People in the community are also being asked to reach out to each other.

So Saturday night is Date Night again?

16 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:19 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Join Or Die

Thank you. You can catch my act on the West Coast this weekend.


17 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:42 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: rdb3
"A total changing of the subject."

True. It almost sounds like someone is condoning this right here on the forum.

18 posted on 11/08/2005 1:13:55 PM PST by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, bama...banana rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: travlnmn41


But if they'd come to school wearing pro homosexual tee shirts they would have been applauded as brave.

What's good for the goose is poison to the gander...


19 posted on 11/08/2005 1:14:24 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: day10
The Ku Klux Klan in Indiana - Indiana State Library
20 posted on 11/08/2005 1:15:36 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: smith288

21 posted on 11/08/2005 1:16:33 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Skooz

But since they didn't dress up like gangbangers, and they DID dress up like KKK members??

I'm unsure of your point.

I can tell you if any youngsters came to my front door dressed like that, they would have gotten an earful from me- and no candy.


22 posted on 11/08/2005 1:16:44 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: smith288
Cartman is the only who can pull this off.

Respect my authoritah

23 posted on 11/08/2005 1:17:07 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Ohio, vote no on issues 1 thru 5, Especially issue 4 , shut up and go home Arnold (CA))
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To: subterfuge
True. It almost sounds like someone is condoning this right here on the forum.

I wouldn't go that far. These days, you can make book on threads like these having the subject totally switched.


24 posted on 11/08/2005 1:17:47 PM PST by rdb3 (Get rid of all of the repetitive redundancy, why don't ya?)
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To: day10

Put a pair of crap filled depends underneath the sheets and they could be the Sheets Byrd.


25 posted on 11/08/2005 1:17:48 PM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: day10

What they should have done is put a name tag on the back of the robe that says, "BYRD (D) WV". They could have then claimed they were exercising their First Amendment right to engage is political speech, and then sue the school for violating their civil rights.


26 posted on 11/08/2005 1:18:48 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: SE Mom
and no candy.

THAT hurts! :)

27 posted on 11/08/2005 1:19:43 PM PST by TheBigB (<----cooler than the other side of the pillow.)
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To: rdb3
Like the "gat" in your little picture there. It's a solid question. I don't personally like the idea of anyone wearing KKK sheets or condoning anything about the Klan, but the guy has a good point. Black Americans really don't have to worry about the Klan as much as they did 50 years ago... I think statistics show the one of the biggest things Black Americans have to worry about is being killed by another Black American thug/gangsta.
28 posted on 11/08/2005 1:19:58 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: day10

Are they sure the kids weren't dressed as capser the ghost? The costumes are nearly identical.:)


29 posted on 11/08/2005 1:22:34 PM PST by calex59
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To: Skooz

Would your solution be to overlook the Klan costumes or condemn both the Klan and gangbanger costumes?


30 posted on 11/08/2005 1:23:24 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Mathews
You're kind of missing the point. The black girl at the party doesn't deserve to be subjected to that kind of idiocy.

It's just cowardly and wrong.

32 posted on 11/08/2005 1:24:09 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Sociopathocracy

Or if your name is Sheriff Bart and you get the costumes by asking true klansmen the question, "Where the white women at?"


33 posted on 11/08/2005 1:24:22 PM PST by bone52 (Fight Terrorists.... Blow up the Eiffel Tower)
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To: Mathews

While that may be a literal reading of the facts- wouldn't you agree that everything the KKK stands for, (and therefore what "dressing up" for fun, as a member of the KKK,) is completely despicable?

Do you expect these young people went out without their parents seeing them?


34 posted on 11/08/2005 1:26:22 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Buddy B
Indiana State Museum - Educational Opportunities for Students

The Ku Klux Klan in Indiana | 1920 - 1930

35 posted on 11/08/2005 1:26:25 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: wideawake

I totally agree with you.


36 posted on 11/08/2005 1:28:37 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: Petronski
There was some really unfunny guy going around with a KKK costume on and filming it... I was wondering if it was real or staged. Anybody know?

Racist Idiot

37 posted on 11/08/2005 1:29:12 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: wideawake

Why do other teenagers have to 'tiptoe' around one black girl's feelings. Does she show the same regard when 'hangin with her peeps in whatever local Rap joint'? I don't hardly think so. She should grow some skin (thicker) and move on. The world sucks for those that let it. There's a reason for the old saying, "Life Sucks and THEN you die."

Black, white, yellow, brown, fuscia, whatever....their 'sensibilities' are what they make of them, and NO ONE should have to cowtow to them.......


38 posted on 11/08/2005 1:30:29 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: wideawake
I totally agree with you. I also agree with Skooz. If the kids had dressed like gang bangers... nothing would have been said. Skooz also asked a good question... which clique has killed more Black Americans in the past 10 to 50 yrs... KKK or Gangstas? My vote: Gangstas. Rdb3 was waiting to pounce and pounce he did, but what I'd like to see is rdb3 answer Skooz's question. Which clique?
39 posted on 11/08/2005 1:32:48 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: Mathews
Like the "gat" in your little picture there.

And why is that even important? It's a "The Sopranos" font.

It's a solid question. I don't personally like the idea of anyone wearing KKK sheets or condoning anything about the Klan, but...

The ubiquitous "but." Need I say more?

Also, what has that to do with the subject of this thread? The number of threads that have had their subjects changed to something like this is myriad. I could care less that these kids wore these costumes. So what! The problem I have is keeping the focus on underclass American blacks even when the topic has nothing to do with them, then having that focus sweep all of us up no matter how law-abiding and professional we may be.

I guess some folx just have to get their digs in no matter what.


40 posted on 11/08/2005 1:33:10 PM PST by rdb3 (Get rid of all of the repetitive redundancy, why don't ya?)
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To: Gaffer
Why do other teenagers have to 'tiptoe' around one black girl's feelings.

Part of becoming a responsible adult is having respect for other people.

Why do people who like to swear have to "tiptoe" around my kids and not use foul language in front of a 3 year old?

There's no law that says they have to - it's called common sense.

Check back in when you get some.

when 'hangin with her peeps in whatever local Rap joint'?

For all you know, she spends her spare time at church functions and bible study.

Unlike the little mutants in the sheets.

42 posted on 11/08/2005 1:35:21 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: SE Mom
Completely! And I sincerely hope the parents had no clue as to what was going on. If they did... then we know that racism is still being tought at home, and sadly, the hatred will continue for another generation.
43 posted on 11/08/2005 1:36:06 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: rdb3
There it is! There it is. I knew it would not take long before such rhetoric would be used. A total changing of the subject.

Oh, I guess I'm a "racist" now, huh?

44 posted on 11/08/2005 1:37:39 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: subterfuge
True. It almost sounds like someone is condoning this right here on the forum.

I condoned NOTHING. It's called "perspective."

45 posted on 11/08/2005 1:38:54 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: Mathews; rdb3
The answer as to which group has killed the most American blacks in the past 10-50 years is: motorists.

Neither criminals nor bad drivers in general make an ideological point of murdering black people for the imagined crime of being black people.

The KKK are an ideological organization and wearing their gear sends a very specific ideological message.

46 posted on 11/08/2005 1:39:42 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: rdb3
I really think anything said to you would be turned upside down, BUT I've dealt with this before and will continue to deal for years to come. Simply saying I liked the "gat" was not intended to set you off. I just liked it. Relax, I say to you.
47 posted on 11/08/2005 1:40:26 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: wideawake

WOW! Like the answer... motorists. Yep. What link did you find that on?


48 posted on 11/08/2005 1:41:47 PM PST by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: wideawake

LMAO!! I am torn between laughter and embarrassment for our state. Of course, anyone who drives through the state knows why he is elected.

The kids knew they were doing something in bad taste or they would have walked in wearing their costumes, not changing them after they arrived.


49 posted on 11/08/2005 1:41:58 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama (You can't spell liberal without the letters L- I- E.)
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To: SE Mom

Ditto. I have nothing but contempt for the KKKlowns and any kid who came to my home dressed as one would get a history lesson and a severe talking to.

My point is that there is a perceived threat (a bunch of one-toothed losers dressing in bed sheets and babbling about their "Invisible Empire") and there is a real threat (gangbangers who kill every day).


50 posted on 11/08/2005 1:42:00 PM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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