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War Without End: A Brief History of the Muslim Conquests
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 8, 2005 | T. David Curp

Posted on 11/09/2005 7:05:57 AM PST by NYer

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T. David Curp is an assistant professor of history at Ohio University, where he teaches the contemporary history of Eastern Europe and the Balkans. He is currently finishing a book on ethnic cleansing in postwar Poland.
1 posted on 11/09/2005 7:05:59 AM PST by NYer
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Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 11/09/2005 7:06:40 AM PST by NYer (ôSocialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: SJackson

Ping!


3 posted on 11/09/2005 7:07:12 AM PST by NYer (ôSocialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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I think two factors helped the early Muslims spread their power in no time flat:

1. There was little resistance for the conquests at the time.

2. MAJOR financial interest, mostly because Muslims historically were always heavily involved in long distance economic trade and they wanted a lot of territory where trade could be accomplished with minimal resistance. After all, the prophet Muhammed was a merchant himself for many years; indeed, the Muslim merchants followed the invading Muslim armies almost as fast as the armies could conquer territory.

4 posted on 11/09/2005 7:31:01 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: NYer

Thanks for the info. The devil is in the details. A detailed history of human action will remove the falsehoods and false prophets between mankind and Truth.

Those who have yet to be Baptized, but are descendants of Jacob/Israel can accept the Truth that the Children of Abraham have a place in this world and an invitation to the Banquet of the next Life, the Real Life. Jesus is the cornerstone of this foundation, and He should never be seen as a threat.

Comparing the teachings of Jesus and exposing false prophets will bring souls closer to the Sacraments and the obedience necessary for the proper attire to Heaven's Eternal Wedding Feast.


5 posted on 11/09/2005 7:38:01 AM PST by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: NYer

It's a painful history to face, but the alternative is worse.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 7:38:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

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7 posted on 11/09/2005 7:42:22 AM PST by fso301
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Worthwhile reading - ping!


8 posted on 11/09/2005 7:45:45 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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To: NYer

Good outline of the history of Muslim jihad.

One note and an observation: The Byzantine emperor was defeated at Manzikert primarily due to an act of betrayel. One of his commanders refused to come to his aid at a critical moment. Romanus was winning up until this.

The observation is that jihad is alive and well today and not just among the "radical" islamists. It remains one of the five pillars of islam and is a duty of all moslems. And internal discord and defeatism today are as much a threat to the security and well-being of the west as they were back in 1071.


9 posted on 11/09/2005 7:49:51 AM PST by scory
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To: NYer

Bump for later read.


10 posted on 11/09/2005 7:50:04 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: NYer; All

OHH NYer if you get a chance I hope History Channel rerun it they sugarcoat this but they have thingy on Crusades last Weekend on the channel
CHECK IT OUT guys probably repeated I don't know WHEN


11 posted on 11/09/2005 7:54:21 AM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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Excellent summary. What's going on now will follow the Israel model - keep violence just at the threshold, demand concessions, raise violence again, demand more concessions until the host country is exhausted.

Israel was the toughest nut to crack. With external pressure they caved and gave up Gaza. That was their sign. Europe will be a cakewalk now.

These people are bullies - the only understand violence and perceive communication and concessions as weakness. And they love an audience which the liberal MSM will never give up. Anyone notice how little attention CNN is paying to the French crisis? How many are aware that only Algerian camera crews are allowed to film the violence ridden areas of France?

G-d help us all.


12 posted on 11/09/2005 7:55:49 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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13 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:52 AM PST by Oratam
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Good read. It's an oxymoron to expect Muslims and Jews to live side by side in peace. It goes against everything Islam stands for. Unless you are Muslim, jihad is declared and expected by the religion. Nothing has changed since the tenth century.

What's scary is that Iran is developing nuclear weapons and nobody is doing anything to stop them. When they have that capability nothing will stop the jihadists.

We have to remember what their ultimate goal is: World conquest and they will not stop fighting toward that goal.

I believe we really need to take them more seriously and thankfully there are some leaders of ours who do.


14 posted on 11/09/2005 8:18:02 AM PST by standingfirm
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Gee, does this mean if we pull out of Iraq now, these folks won't bother us again? / sarcasm on.


15 posted on 11/09/2005 8:31:50 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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"Islam quickly achieved a good bit of worldly success. Within a century of the death of the prophet Mohammed, his followers had overrun most of the southern half of the Mediterranean world. Muslim armies advanced from the Arab peninsula all the way to southern France to the west; north to the outlying districts of Constantinople, the greatest city of Christendom; and further eastward to the ancient civilizations of Persia, India, and the easternmost borders of China."

Islam was rapidly spread by the sword. This was done by muhammed appealing to mankind basiest desires; pride, plunder and rapine. By their fruit muslims will be known. They are using the same age old tacticts today.

16 posted on 11/09/2005 8:43:05 AM PST by ConvienentCharade
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"Islam quickly achieved a good bit of worldly success. Within a century of the death of the prophet Mohammed, his followers had overrun most of the southern half of the Mediterranean world. Muslim armies advanced from the Arab peninsula all the way to southern France to the west; north to the outlying districts of Constantinople, the greatest city of Christendom; and further eastward to the ancient civilizations of Persia, India, and the easternmost borders of China."

Islam was rapidly spread by the sword. This was done by muhammed appealing to mankind basiest desires; pride, plunder and rapine. By their fruit muslims will be known. They are using the same age old tactics today.

17 posted on 11/09/2005 8:45:17 AM PST by ConvienentCharade
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bump for later read


18 posted on 11/09/2005 8:58:39 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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How many are aware that only Algerian camera crews are allowed to film the violence ridden areas of France?

Is this true?

19 posted on 11/09/2005 9:18:38 AM PST by NYer (ôSocialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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From last night:

"If you think that French media are downplaying the extent of the actual violence and damage, you are right. Quite a bit of hard news is not being reported both by design and by the circumstances on the ground. State TV has already decided to stop repeating the number of cars burned every day and film crews (particularly white French film crews) are being chased from the suburbs after having their vehicles and equipment torched. The only journalists currently operating freely and without armed escort are from Algerian newspapers (El Watan has been cited as an example)."

Source: http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2005/11/french-msm-covers-up-what-is-in-fact.html


20 posted on 11/09/2005 9:24:22 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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