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STICKING TO HER STORY (Mapes "No one has proved that the documents were not authentic")
New York Post ^ | 11/09/05 | Michael Starr

Posted on 11/09/2005 1:16:11 PM PST by conservative in nyc

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To: conservative in nyc

Thank God for FreeRepublic and the bloggers who so immediately saw this thing for what it was. The astonishing thing here is the gall of the woman and Rather that they think they can still perpetuate this stupid original storyline. It seems like a very simple equation - the more solid the proof that what big media is pushing is fraudulent, the more they push back to try to prove that it really was all true. It's unreal! It's like they are thumbing their nose at anyone with half a brain. And they sure haven't figured out that they no longer exist in a pre-internet age. Amazing that they stay in business at all. Instead of just rolling their eyes, wouldn't the advertisers say 'nuts to this'? What business model makes this work? Sorry, just mumbling to myself...


41 posted on 11/09/2005 1:45:00 PM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: conservative in nyc

I was ROFLMYO when I clicked on the original story, and the banner ad above it was for 1-800-PET-MEDS....


42 posted on 11/09/2005 1:46:47 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: conservative in nyc
[Mary, Mary, Mary. You claim you are a journalist. We don't need to prove your documents were fake. YOU need to show US that your documents were authentic. And you never have. And you never will. Because your documents were not authentic, unless they were typed on a very expensive machine the Texas Air National guard never had, or the TANG had a time machine and brought back a computer that uses Microsoft Word to the 1970s. YOU have no proof.]

Mary,Mary is quite contrary.
43 posted on 11/09/2005 1:47:08 PM PST by kindred (Only God is good.)
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To: Cicero
Didn't I hear somewhere in Logic 101 that you can't prove a negative?

Self-contradictory claim....

Actually, it is certainly possible to prove a negative, at least in some cases. For example, assume that the positive is true, and demonstrate that the assumption leads to a contradiction.

The fact is, however, that Ms. Mapes' document was matched exactly -- exactly -- to a MS-Word generated version of the alleged memos. It's beyond reasonable doubt that they were forged on a modern computer.

44 posted on 11/09/2005 1:47:49 PM PST by r9etb
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To: dighton
"My friend, you have seen this incident, based on sworn testimony. Can you prove that it didn’t happen?"

LOL. Trying to pass off these documents as genuine 1973 TANG base memos is like trying to pass off clips from that movie as genuine UFO photographs.

45 posted on 11/09/2005 1:48:26 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Kerretarded
"COURAGE! COURAGE! COURAGE!"

LOL!

And speaking of Mr. Courage,


Moderator -- 'Do you think CBS has courage?'
Dan the Man with the Plan -- ' . . . (crickets) . . . '

46 posted on 11/09/2005 1:49:49 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Physicist
Moreover, Microsoft Word produces a nearly identical document with its default settings, and an identical document with one minor adjustment.

Actually, th default setting on Word is to automatically superscript "th" endings on some words.

47 posted on 11/09/2005 1:50:42 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Physicist
Moreover, Microsoft Word produces a nearly identical document with its default settings, and an identical document with one minor adjustment.

Actually, the default setting on Word is to automatically superscript "th" endings on some words.

48 posted on 11/09/2005 1:50:58 PM PST by r9etb
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To: conservative in nyc

Right. And NOBODY has PROVED Bill Clinton did not rape Jaunita Broadrick. And NOBODY has proved Clinton did not harass Kathleen Willy. And NOBODY has proved Hillary has not taken bribes or illegally taken FBI files. And NOBODY has proved the Democrats did not vote illegally. And NOBODY has proved Howard Dean or Michael Moore are sane.

Works for me.


49 posted on 11/09/2005 1:52:08 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: r9etb

Oh, yes, I know. Proved beyond all possibility of legal or reasonable scientific doubt. But that doesn't stop them from saying that maybe there was some sort of super typewriter back then that maybe was miraculously in the hands of the Texas Air National Guard. Never mind that no known typewriter, including expensive lab models that were mentioned at the time, could have quite duplicated those fonts. Never mind that other documents from that time don't match these. The liberal mind insists that you can't PROVE it.

And no doubt the koolaid drinkers will continue to suck it up. But I doubt that her book will sell very well.


50 posted on 11/09/2005 1:52:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: conservative in nyc

The woman is delusional BUMP!


51 posted on 11/09/2005 1:53:42 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservative in nyc

Why is this in the news? A book, or a trial or something?

They presented forged documents, but the story was true anyhow?

She must be soft in the head.


52 posted on 11/09/2005 1:55:17 PM PST by Radix (Wishful Thinking: A Tag Line Field which actually contains enough places to complete a serious thou)
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To: conservative in nyc

Oh, a book, I should have read it all first...LoL!


53 posted on 11/09/2005 1:56:02 PM PST by Radix (Wishful Thinking: A Tag Line Field which actually contains enough places to complete a serious thou)
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To: conservative in nyc
"No one has proved that the documents were not authentic," Mapes says on this morning's "Good Morning America."
Mary, Mary, Mary. You claim you are a journalist. We don't need to prove your documents were fake. YOU need to show US that your documents were authentic.
Ah, but that is where you are wrong. The entire system of the "objective journalism" cabal is to produce within itself so much propaganda power that the only "facts" that matter are those (whether true or not) which the cabal recognizes. And only while that cabal recognizes them; that recognition can be arbitrarily revoked and the former "truth" sent down the memory hole.

For example, the "truth" was that Ronald Reagan was an extremist and the commies were unobjectionable people who we had to get along with - until the USSR collapsed and the Berlin Wall fell. Then the fact that journalism and the rest of the Democratic Party had opposed Reagan at all was stuffed down the memory hole; in his funeral week you would never have suspected that any Democrat had ever had the slightest objection to him or his policies.

And you never have. And you never will.
THAT part you have right.

54 posted on 11/09/2005 2:07:46 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Radix; Cicero; Buckhead; PJ-Comix; Irish_Thatcherite
Mapes has written a book and is going on a tour. Amazon.com had the first chapter online once, but it's now embargoed. Fortunately, PJ-Comix captured it before the embargo, and posted it in his DUmmie Funnies here.

She's already claimed that this website and other "hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative sites" she never heard of until the day after the story broke were part of the "birthplace of political jihad". And claimed that we were engaged in "digital McCarthyism".

So yes, Irish Thatcherite, you're a digital McCarthyite.
55 posted on 11/09/2005 2:12:11 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Cicero

A first year high school debater knows that a premise requires evidence that leads the judge to believe a relationship is causal. That evidence must be a provable fact, cited with author, year, and publication.

I mean, this is something every ninth grader learns. That a former CBS News executive doesn't understand this is stunning!


56 posted on 11/09/2005 2:25:48 PM PST by kjo
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Mary Mapes ping.


57 posted on 11/09/2005 2:29:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Eternal rest grant unto her, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon her.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

...ahhh, Mary...your bosses at SeeB.S. proved it well enough to fire you...

Reagan80


58 posted on 11/09/2005 2:34:36 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: conservative in nyc

I heard the interview Mapes did on Rush this morning, and its almost as if she is claiming some presumption of innocence until proven guilty, for the forged documents...just shows how twisted her mind really is.


59 posted on 11/09/2005 2:47:34 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: conservative in nyc
"Mapes says she's continuing to investigate the source of the documents."

Hey Mary.....why don't you get O.J. Simpson to join you in your search?

He is still "searching" for his ex-wife's killer. You two might make a great team in your "search" for the truth!

60 posted on 11/09/2005 2:54:47 PM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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