Skip to comments.Muhammad Ali appearance dispels fears over health
Posted on 11/09/2005 1:43:43 PM PST by george76
Ailing boxing legend Muhammad Ali swapped wisecracks with President George W. Bush in his first public appearance in five months which dispelled recent fears over his health.
Ali, 63, went to the White House to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the United States' highest civilian honor, from Bush.
He appeared weak from his longstanding battle against Parkinson's Disease but attentive throughout the ceremony in the East Room of the White House, applauding each recipient.
Ali's first public appearance in five months
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A real American treasure. Too bad his life has to end this way.
Y'know, I'm torn here. I've always liked the guy. I loved watching him fight when I was a kid, and his shtick with Howard Cosell. I think he's handled his Parkinson's with grace, and he's undeniably one of the greatest boxers of all time...he practically redefined the heavyweight division.
But I'm just not 100% comfortable with giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to a draft resister. (Notice I didn't say "dodger," in that he did stay in the country and do his time in prison for it.)
I wonder how much money he gave to mooselimbs to kill Christians and Jews - I wonder if you have half the conviction of your faith that he has in his?
The 'treasure' should remain buried.
By the way, you know this how?
I don't think Ali owes us a thing. He has lived his life with dignity and he took full advantage of his gifts. The country is the winner because of him.
I had friends coming home in boxes while Ali was draft dodging.
Presidential Medal of Freedom, my ass!
I got nothing against Ali. He never called me an INFIDEL!
What's the reason for him getting this?
I'm 100% with you. Well he objectd out of his believe and he certainly had the conviction of his beliefs I still don't see how that leads to a medal of freedom.
And we don't owe Cassius Clay a thing, much less a Medal of Freedom for not doing a damned thing for the US, other than crapping on this country while hundreds of thousands of other young men went to fight (and many of whom died) in his place. Elvis Presley went into the armed forces at the peak of his career which was too much for this bum. So much for Mr. Neoconservative, George Bush. I'll never work or vote for another member of that incompetent family again. They'd be nowhere but for the real President, Ronald Reagan.
My sentiments exactly. I entered the Army in 1968. In my book he is a COWARD. Neither he or Jane Fonda will ever be forgiven by me.
Ali, as all human beings are, is flawed. And so in his younger years he was led and influenced by people around him that were only operating in their interest, not his. However, any objective person must take full measure of the man during his entire life. Ali like so many other American Icons, is not perfect. But he loves this country, and its people, and its people love him. In both the ring an in his battle with illness, he has maintained that maverick glint in his eye, that lust for life and the glorious quest for America that allows an Ali to reach the pinnacle of suceess. He is both a great American and a hero to all in America!!!
You east texas people crack me up. If President George W. Bush wants to give him a medal, thats good enough for me. I will let you judge his actions.
Ali was a Conscientuous Objector, and was ruled so by the Supreme Court. There's a difference between that and running away to Canada.
It was Abraham Lincoln who introduced conscription. An asinine idea more suited to Prussia than the land of the free.
Get off your high horse, don't lecture me with your very apt name, hillbilly. And I don't give a damn about your background.
Military conscription is UNAMERICAN!
The draft is slavery. Military service is honorable, but compulsory service is very different.
AMEN! My grandfathers VOLUNTEERED to serve in the Army and Navy and I am damn proud of their service, indeed of all the men and women of our armed services. The draft, on the other hand, is deplorable and hopefully will not come back.
Cassius Clay is a draft DODGING, racist, POS.
He has earned the scorn of all thinking Americans.
But of course he is held up now as some sort of superior person.
Because of his RACE he is "untouchable".
Our BROTHERS died while he posed.
You can forget, but I never will.
If you find my comments offensive...KMA, what are you going to do? Send me to Vietnam?
"Medal of Freedom" my Royal Irish A$$.
Yes, hillbilly is a term that ignorant people have used in describing residents of the home state of both Cassus Clay and me. Both of us were born and raised in Kentucky.
I happen to use the screen name of billhilly, but that is probably too difficult for you to understand.
You give conservatism a bad name. Don't bother to answer. l I don't want to hear your drivel anymore.
So "ignorant people" use the term "hillbilly"? I didn't use it, you did so I guess that makes you ignorant.
He is getting this medal because he is a prominent moslem and the government is keen to show how much we appreciate the contribution of moslems to American society.
Now excuse me while I go and be sick.
First of all many Freepers might have last hard feelings against Ali for him objecting to going to Vietnam, but Ali has done great work in his fight against his Parkisons and has serviced quietly as its spokemen for years and one thing about Ali he has not turned his sickness into a matter to have a national pity party or called for using the unborn for junk science research unlike some others we know, for that alone I think I could look past his lack of going to Vietnam and Ali has made several trips in the past to visit wounded and sick trips from what I have heard, I think he visited Walter Reed about a year ago if I remember correctly.
As far as I'm concerned his was a valid act of civil disobedience, and I never heard him complain about the consequences.
That's why I called him a draft "resister" instead of a draft "dodger." He didn't flee the country, he took a stand, didn't back down, accepted the consequences for it, and dealt with it. I don't agree with him, but I respect the way he handled it, unlike so many others (liberals especially). I can respect how he handled it even if I don't really respect the beliefs that caused him to do it.
But I still don't understand why he deserves a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Yes, he was an electrifying athlete, a cultural icon, a spokesman for Parkinson's victims. But what did he do for America to deserve such a high civilian honor, besides give us some memorable sports highlights?
Maybe I'm just misinterpreting exactly what one has to do to get the Presidential Medal of Freedom. *shrug* I don't begrudge Ali receiving the praise he's received over the years, I just don't get why he's getting this one particular honor.
He did his time. I respect that. The scum who fled to Canada will never have my respect.
In which prison was Ali incarcerated, and for how long?
It depends what you worship SF, as well as how committed you are to it. Manson's "family" sure had conviction. So did those who followed Pol Pot and Ernst Rohm.
Islam is a cult, and a horrific one at that. There is only one God, and allah is not his name.
Well as you know duckman, Ali failed to duck way to often.
He was willing to risk a lot in the name of a principle. It wasn't like it would be today.
...I guess that's what your momma had to tie around your neck....
Kiss My A$$.
BTW, I'm betting that even in his condition Ali could knock you on your ass.
...no, sweetie...sorry to disappoint....
He went to jail rather than ducking the draft to Canada and he came immediately out after 9-11 to denounce that event as a total act of murder and terror and nothing to do with religion.
Say what you will about the guy, I think he does have his principles and guts. This is a real man, despite my total disagreement with his politics and religious beliefs.
Hey, what's the weather up by you at this time like?
We here in California are slipping at night already into the high 50s and we have some heavy misting at this time.
We are very moderate with the weather out here.
Have things already frozen over by you?
I ask because I don't know...
It's called pandering.