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1 posted on 11/09/2005 3:39:27 PM PST by Alouette
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I wonder whether Mr. Foxman will accept Rabbi Lapin's offer to debate? As an outsider, I think that it would be good for the education of all.


31 posted on 11/09/2005 7:42:53 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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Thankfully the Israelis are not as stupid as Mr Foxman.

"Bibi: Evangelicals are Israel's best gentile friends"

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1131367043572&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Maybe Mr Foxman would better understand who supports Jews if he lived in a place that did not have such a strong voice of friendship from Christians. If he lived in secular Europe for awhile, perhaps in Clichy-sous-Bois, the seat of many violent acts against Jews and the start of the current violence, he might then appreciate what he has. Or if he lived in Israel surrounded by enemies where almost the only friendly outside voice comes from America's Christian community.

Safely surrounded by Christians in the most tolerant country in the world he criticizes them.


33 posted on 11/09/2005 7:49:33 PM PST by dervish (no excuses)
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Thanks for all of your pings to the Israel / Jewish threads. It's either you, Salem, SJackson or somebody. Thanks all anyway. I read all the threads (or most of them) but rarely comment.

Just chiming in now, but my observations after 9/11 show me that too many Jews distrusted we Christian Conservatives as much as they distrust the moose-limbs. How can some turn down a few Christian guards at a Jewish Center or Hospital immediately after such an attack? Do they REALLY think we are the enemy?

Actually sometimes I think I love and respect Israel and His chosen people more than they really do !

Nam Vet

46 posted on 11/09/2005 11:03:22 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Gaulistinians are rioting to reclaim the ancient 'holy ground' of Paris.)
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Thus anyone who loathes the values of secular liberalism surely must hate the values of Judaism since they are the same. Therefore, any conservative is, by definition, an anti-Semite.

A refreshing analysis. Yes, I frequently am accused of this myself, despite the attention I direct toward the words of two Jews, Jesus and Paul. It took way too long to figure it out the cause of the dissonance. Fantastic article.

50 posted on 11/10/2005 2:39:14 AM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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WOW!

For once, I'm speechless (a rare occurrence!)

To Rabbi Lapin from this Virginia Catholic: God bless you real, real good! You are a 100% mensch! Your words mean more to me than I can put in words, thank you sir!

Alouette, thank you very much for posting this, it truly made my day. God bless you real good, too!


52 posted on 11/10/2005 5:28:10 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It really, truly is a "religion of peace", and the jihadistinian rioters in France prove it!)
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Remarkable article by a very articulate and honorable man. What he left out is the fact that the liberal churches are the ones that most directly attack Israel, noting the recent divestments of Israeli stock, etc by a liberal church.


59 posted on 11/10/2005 9:06:16 AM PST by Godzilla ( How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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When I lived in Seattle, I e-mailed Rabbi Lapin once to invite him to teach a men's Bible study on the Psalms. He very graciously denied, saying that he was fully occupied with the final stages of the writing of his book, America's Real War. That was not the working title of the book, however. He told me that his working subtitle was "An Orthodox Rabbi Makes the Case for Christianity." Apparently his publisher changed the title.
60 posted on 11/10/2005 9:10:05 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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A great article. Thanks for posting it....

GC


61 posted on 11/10/2005 9:12:45 AM PST by Gamecock (Eternity is a long time to be wrong.)
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Here's a Christian who believes in separation of Church and state. I believe the reason this was such an important principle was to avoid the STATE from infecting the Church. The trend in Europe was for bishops to be paid and staffed by the state - this lead to villains with no Christian faith whatsoever from becoming bishops. To safeguard the state was never an objective as far as I can tell - although one of the intentions was likely to safeguard the people from the tyranny of one Christian denomination over another.

Sadly there are a handful of Christians who use their faith to harbour racism against Jews; but the majority of the Jewish racism is not religiously based whatsoever.
64 posted on 11/10/2005 10:24:38 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (I hate hippies - Eric Cartman)
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Foxman is one of those atheist commies who hides behind the star of David taking pot shots at Christians or any of American culture he hates or wants to see destroyed.

Anyone who comes back to criticize his politics or social policy plans gets labeled anti Semitic

Abraham was a pagan until God personally established a covenant relationship with Abraham...apart from personal relationship with God how can one honestly call himself a Jew?

imo

66 posted on 11/10/2005 10:35:04 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul; NYer; onyx; GipperGal; Alouette

Daniel Lapin *ping!*


79 posted on 11/10/2005 6:08:55 PM PST by kstewskis (I'm not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night....)
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Great article.

Foxman & ADL = Edgar & National Council of Churches.

87 posted on 11/11/2005 7:33:20 AM PST by Tribune7
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The first is that God created us in His image and placed us here. The second is that through a lengthy process of unaided materialistic evolution, primitive protoplasm became Bach, Beethoven, and the Beatles.

...or Maimonides, or Einstein...

95 posted on 11/19/2005 7:47:19 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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bump


96 posted on 11/20/2005 10:36:08 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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BTTT


98 posted on 11/20/2005 11:15:54 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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There's Daniel Lapin, Don Feder, Ben Shapiro, Ben Stein, Debbie Schlussel, Mona Charen, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, John Podhoretz and Michael Medved. As you can see, there are prominent conservative Jews in America.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

99 posted on 11/20/2005 11:48:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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