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To draft a better DUI law
The Boston Herald ^ | 11/5/05 | Randy S. Chapman

Posted on 11/09/2005 3:39:41 PM PST by elkfersupper

It is time to separate fact from fiction about our drunken driving laws. It is time to stop deluding ourselves into believing that stricter penalties are the solution. It is also time to start promulgating laws that attack the core problem, including creating a bright line that even an intoxicated person can walk.

Drunken driving is a problem in Massachusetts. It is also a problem in New York, Texas and every other state in the country. Statistically, Massachusetts’ roads are not the most dangerous in the country. There is also no proof that Massachusetts drivers are more likely to drive impaired.

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Perhaps it is time to make it illegal to drink any alcohol and drive a car.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: alcohol; dui; dwi; libertarian
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Well, there you have it. A major U.S. newspaper advocating a return to prohibition.

MADD should be proud.

1 posted on 11/09/2005 3:39:41 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Well maybe you would be more accepting if it was worded this way :

Perhaps it is time to make it illegal to drive when you have had any alcohol to drink.


I doubt you will but it was worth a try.....


2 posted on 11/09/2005 3:43:34 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: elkfersupper
This reminds me of a colorful conversation I had with someone from MADD who called me on the telephone seeking donations for MADD. Let's just say I'm no longer on their fund-raising solicitation list. LOL.

"Drunk driving" isn't nearly the problem it is often made out to be, and the issue would nearly disappear if people were simply prosecuted for violating motor vehicle laws on a regular basis regardless of whether they were sober or drunk at the time.

3 posted on 11/09/2005 3:45:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: elkfersupper

I think they should just ban cars in Massachussetts. High time those bastards should have to use the mass transit everyone else has to pay for. And think of all the green space they could reclaim!

MADD is out of its mind. And cops angling for a reason to bust anyone walking out of a bar love them for it.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 3:45:58 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Let O'Connor Go Home!)
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To: elkfersupper
I really don't see how they are suggesting prohibition. I beleive they are talking about driving after drinking.
5 posted on 11/09/2005 3:46:02 PM PST by dfwddr (What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.)
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To: elkfersupper
Drunken driving is a problem in Massachusetts.

And so are drunk Senators.

6 posted on 11/09/2005 3:46:53 PM PST by WillamShakespeare (What is a John Kerry?)
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"I really don't see how they are suggesting prohibition. I beleive they are talking about driving after drinking."

Thank you.


7 posted on 11/09/2005 3:47:45 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression
The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. – John Hay (1872)
8 posted on 11/09/2005 3:48:16 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Think when you Drink...don't drive. BSD (2005)

or


Drink all you want to...just don't drive. BSD (2005)


9 posted on 11/09/2005 3:49:34 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression; dfwddr

Which leaves three choices for folks who drink...

1 - Drink at home only
2 - Live within easy walking distance of a bar
3 - Always have a sober driver handy to pick your sorry butt up and schlep you home (or to your next destination)

The idea of responsible drinking, of course, goes right out the window... but that's no different from what we do with respect to other drugs anyway. Since we're already settled on a police state, might as well have an egalitarian police state.


10 posted on 11/09/2005 3:51:21 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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To: dfwddr
I really don't see how they are suggesting prohibition. I beleive they are talking about driving after drinking.

How to "Drive" Under the Influence While Sleeping

11 posted on 11/09/2005 3:52:25 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
"Perhaps it is time to make it illegal to drink any alcohol and drive a car."

Perhaps it is time to make it illegal to drink any alcohol and write for a newspaper.

12 posted on 11/09/2005 3:53:39 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: BlueStateDepression
Perhaps it is time to make it illegal to drive when you have had any alcohol to drink.

...and perhaps it is time to don your jackboots!

I'm sure you have them all polished.


13 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:13 PM PST by pageonetoo ( you'll spot them soon enough!)
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To: Alberta's Child
"'Drunk driving' isn't nearly the problem it is often made out to be, and the issue would nearly disappear if people were simply prosecuted for violating motor vehicle laws on a regular basis regardless of whether they were sober or drunk at the time."

Agreed on both points. Every time I see this kind of crap I can't help but miss Sam Kinison.

14 posted on 11/09/2005 3:57:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Let O'Connor Go Home!)
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To: elkfersupper

It took me 6yrs to quit drinking, after I had lost my license...I've now been almost 5yrs.

I still do not agree with the DUI laws...and detest MAD, but if I hadn't lost my license...I'd probably still be drinkin.


15 posted on 11/09/2005 3:57:58 PM PST by Mrite
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To: LibertarianInExile

In downtown Owego, they force the bars to close by not allowing parking between 2 and 5 AM. Effectiveness depends on how swift the police are in getting out to issue tickets.


16 posted on 11/09/2005 3:58:55 PM PST by Styria
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To: Alberta's Child
"Drunk driving" isn't nearly the problem it is often made out to be, and the issue would nearly disappear if people were simply prosecuted for violating motor vehicle laws on a regular basis regardless of whether they were sober or drunk at the time.

There you go, being rational again (doesn't pay).

17 posted on 11/09/2005 3:59:07 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: pageonetoo

Sure, I like raodside safety checks. They are akin to metal detectors at the airport. OH wait I suppose you oppose them too eh? If not what is the difference?


18 posted on 11/09/2005 3:59:31 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: pageonetoo

Good one. Certain city/county governments base their budgets on ticket quotas. While this is going on the bastards from third world nations are creeping across our borders. And nobody gives a sh!t. I'll drink and drive if I want to. Stop this PC crap.


19 posted on 11/09/2005 4:00:43 PM PST by Utah Binger (American Art in the West)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Knda living dangerously to be bringing up sammy in this forum eh?

After all he did like to tell a joke about Jesus being able to use his hands as a whistle.....


20 posted on 11/09/2005 4:01:02 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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