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Danny Ocean Defends The Rather Network (Ann Coulter)
Yahoo.com ^ | 11-09-05 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:28:47 PM PST by smoothsailing

DANNY OCEAN DEFENDS THE RATHER NETWORK

By Ann Coulter 33 minutes ago

The most cosseted, self-indulgent, worthless people in the universe are worried their suffering has been downgraded. For 50 years Hollywood drama queens have churned out plays, movies, TV shows, books, poems, allegories, museum exhibits, personal testimonials, dioramas, interpretive dances, wood carvings, cave paintings, needlepoint wall hangings and scatological limericks about their victimization at the hands of a brute named Joe McCarthy. Schoolchildren who will learn nothing about George Washington, Thomas Edison or Paul Revere are forced to read chapter and verse about the black night of fascism (BNOF) under McCarthy.

But half a century of myth-making later, one little book comes out and gives the contrary view -- and Hollywood thinks it's Treblinka.

George Clooney, writer and director of the rebuttal, claims he was driven to make the movie "Good Night, and Good Luck" because "a book came out about how great McCarthy was."

Q: Ann Coulter's "Treason"?

GC: Yes.

Needless to say I was shocked to learn that George Clooney can read. Liberals haven't been so shocked by a book since "Uncle Tom's Cabin."

So, apparently, we must revisit the BNOF under McCarthy one more time. (Ethical dilemma: Would you write a book to set the record straight on Joseph McCarthy knowing that it might give rise to yet another lame George Clooney movie?)

Clooney said of his small contribution to the "McCarthyism" industry: "I realized that we had to be incredibly careful with the facts, because if we got any of them wrong, they could say it's all horse****. So I had to double-source every scene."

I don't intend to see his movie because -- except for the McCarthy parts -- it sounds like a snoozefest. (Half the reviewers so far have said "good night" to Clooney, and the other half have said "good luck.") And despite all those "double-sources," in addition to getting the big facts wrong (about America and about the Soviet Union), Clooney got all the little facts wrong, too. I guess he borrowed some of Al Franken's "fact-checkers."

As even liberal reviewers have noted, it was hardly an act of bravery for Edward R. Murrow to attack McCarthy. The New York Times was attacking McCarthy, The New York Post was attacking McCarthy and The Washington Post was attacking McCarthy. Every known news outlet was attacking McCarthy. McCarthy was in a pitched battle for his life, his career and the fate of the nation. Murrow merely jumped on the liberal bandwagon -- and rather late in the game. (You want bravery? Try sitting all the way through "Solaris.")

I gather the movie's two examples of McCarthy's perfidy are the cases of Annie Lee Moss and Milo Radulovich. As described in detail on Pages 62-64 of "Treason," Moss was a proved Communist Party member -- who happened to be working in the Code Room of the Pentagon. It was an act of sheer madness, like, say, putting a member of al-Qaida at the Pentagon today or putting Pat Leahy on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Oh wait ...

Moss put on a big Amos 'n' Andy show for a Senate committee, delighting racist liberals who happily proclaimed Moss too simpleminded to be a communist. Only thanks to McCarthy, who ignored the barrage of calumnies from liberals, Moss was moved to a less sensitive position at the Pentagon.

As for Milo Radulovich, he had absolutely nothing to do with McCarthy. McCarthy never mentioned his name. So maybe liberals have finally found the one liberal in the '50s who was not on the payroll of the Soviet Union. I don't know and I don't care.

Amusingly, Clooney said in an interview that Alger Hiss was "probably" a communist spy. By now, I believe even the Nation magazine has been forced to admit Hiss was more than that. But, Clooney says, the point is McCarthy "was wrong about 99 percent of them."

If McCarthy was "wrong about 99 percent of them," when are we going to get a movie about one of the 99 percent? I might go see that movie.

Clooney reverts to the standard Hollywood talking point, saying: "(M)ore important than that, (McCarthy) was wrong every time he denied people their civil liberties."

Ah yes, the old civil liberties canard. Apparently, the only period worse than the BNOF under McCarthy is the current BNOF under President George Bush. This was followed by the usual number of specific examples of civil liberties that had been denied: zero. Liberals churn out hysterical slander daily, but insist on acting like they are the ones under attack.

The only people being tortured are those of us forced to endure the egos of Hollywood fantasists who profess left-wing views to prove they are deep thinkers. Come to think of it, the current BNOF is a lot like the original BNOF under McCarthy.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; communism; coulter; edwardrmurrow; georgeclooney; goodnightandgoodluck; joemccarthy; josephmccarthy; mccarthy; mccarthyism; treason
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To: billhilly
"Do you think this qualifies me to conclude that the term hillbilly is and was used as a perjoritive? "

Hillbilly is and was used by ignorant people as a pejorative.

And you said hillbilly was "...another perjorative (sic)...."

41 posted on 11/09/2005 6:19:40 PM PST by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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To: gatex

Well, I can spell Albuquerque.


42 posted on 11/09/2005 6:29:47 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: billhilly
"Well, I can spell Albuquerque. "

At least you got that one correct.

43 posted on 11/09/2005 6:34:07 PM PST by gatex (NRA, JPFO and Gun Owners of America)
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To: billhilly
REELFOOT LAKE sounds like a great place to visit!
44 posted on 11/09/2005 6:37:56 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Yes, it is a great place. There are Eagles to watch even if you don't fish or duck hunt. I both hunted and fished there from the mid forties until the mid fifties.


45 posted on 11/09/2005 7:17:58 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: billhilly

She should eat a cheeseburge...and repeat as needed.


46 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:49 PM PST by steve8714
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To: billhilly
I was reading about the eagles at the link I posted to you.

I was aware of their protected status, but I was surprised to learn that even to pick up and keep an eagle feather that has fallen to the ground is against the law.

While I admire and respect that most noble bird, I found that to be just a bit extreme.

Growing up in Virginia as a boy, I still remember an eagle's nest at the top of a tall tree at Lake Smith.It was such a treat to see an eagle land there or take off.They are so magnificent in flight.

47 posted on 11/09/2005 8:14:37 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: perfect stranger

Thanks for the ping, good FRiend. I see that BNOF has already been answered for you a bit further up.

Black Night of Fascism, of course.


48 posted on 11/09/2005 8:37:50 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: smoothsailing
...George Clooney, writer and director of the rebuttal, claims he was driven to make the movie "Good Night, and Good Luck" because "a book came out about how great McCarthy was."

Q: Ann Coulter's "Treason"?

GC: Yes.

That would, of course, be THIS book:


from
www.booksamillion.com

49 posted on 11/09/2005 8:38:05 PM PST by RonDog
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To: All
And despite all those "double-sources," in addition to getting the big facts wrong (about America and about the Soviet Union), Clooney got all the little facts wrong, too. I guess he borrowed some of Al Franken's "fact-checkers."

This must be her David Brock moment. She'll be going Arianna's route any moment now.

/sarc

50 posted on 11/09/2005 8:50:48 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: RonDog
Yes indeed! It's one of three Coulter classics I keep on the bookshelf in my office.
51 posted on 11/09/2005 8:52:12 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Plutarch
Done! Thanks for the suggestion.
52 posted on 11/09/2005 8:54:35 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I have lived in Virginia since 1958, with only two short periods out of state. I have to admit I don't know where Smith Lake is. I do know where Smith Mountain Lake is.


53 posted on 11/09/2005 8:55:24 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: smoothsailing
Putting aside all the chit chat, McCarthy was a reckless, demagogic drunk, whose incompetence and ineptness with the facts, and penchant for overstatement, was the ultimate elixir for the Left, from which it profited handsomely until Reagan sucked the air out of it all. The attempt to rehabilitate McCarthy won't get a pass from this quarter.
54 posted on 11/09/2005 8:59:59 PM PST by Torie
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To: smoothsailing
Danny Ocean Defends The Rather Network (Ann Coulter)
And, for those of us who do not patronize George Clooney movies...
...and hence, do not understand the "Danny Ocean" reference made in the title of this article...
...from movies.yahoo.com:

George Clooney as <b>Danny Ocean </b><br>in Warner Brothers' Ocean's Eleven
George Clooney as Danny Ocean
in Warner Brothers' Ocean's Eleven - 2001

55 posted on 11/09/2005 9:02:08 PM PST by RonDog
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To: smoothsailing

I have been waiting for her to go after this movie, I would love to see her debate c looney.


56 posted on 11/09/2005 9:04:38 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: billhilly
Lake Smith is in what is now Virginia Beach. When I was a boy it was Princess Anne County.

If you're familiar with the Beach area,Lake Smith can be seen from Northhampton Blvd. between Diamond Springs Rd. and Independence Blvd.

57 posted on 11/09/2005 9:09:26 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Torie
...McCarthy was a reckless, demagogic drunk, whose incompetence and ineptness with the facts, and penchant for overstatement...
It is hard to know how much of that "classical" characterization of Senator McCarthy is liberal myth, and how much is grounded in reality, IMHO.

See also, from www.frontpagemag.com:

FP: Ms. Coulter, I completely agree with you on Ronald Reagan but, with all due respect, how could you possibly admire Joe McCarthy?

He was a hideous character. I don't think you can find many individuals more anti-communist than myself, but I detest McCarthy for how he discredited anti-communism. I can't think of anyone else in America that did so much damage to the anti-communist cause. What exactly do you see in McCarthy? Yes, he fought the right enemy, but the way that he fought it was extremely counter-productive. He armed our liberal enemies with powerful ammunition against us. What is your thinking here? 

AC: I notice that you have just reeled off a slew of insults without a bare hint of a fact. And for good reason -- actually for no good reason. You're interviewing me, you should have read my book. Until Treason, that's all it ever was with McCarthy. Portraits of Kathy Boudin, Che Guevara, Ted Bundy, and Joe Stalin are more nuanced than portraits of McCarthy.

He is the only person in history for whom, apparently, there is absolutely nothing good that we can say. No nuance, no good side -- just invective, fake facts, myth, and anger. It's amazing that guy ever got elected to anything! I wrote my book, I made my case, and people decided not to argue with me on the merits. So now I guess we're back to fact-free invective against McCarthy.

When you start to sound like Molly Ivins talking about George Bush, you might want to entertain the possibility that you are a few tweaks away from the dispassionate truth.


58 posted on 11/09/2005 9:20:35 PM PST by RonDog
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To: smoothsailing

:o)


59 posted on 11/09/2005 9:22:15 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Torie
So,I guess you don't think much of ole Joe.Have you had the opportunity to read Coulter's book?
60 posted on 11/09/2005 9:30:39 PM PST by smoothsailing
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