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Illegals require health services
The Washington Times ^ | 11-10-05 | Keyonna Summers

Posted on 11/10/2005 11:51:19 AM PST by JZelle

Some health care officials are urging local governments to start providing health care services for the region's illegal aliens -- or get ready for more outbreaks of contagious diseases like tuberculosis. "Unless you're able to do something about the immigration issue, if you cut services to all undocumented ... that's very stupid," said Francisco Semiao, education and outreach coordinator at George Washington Cancer Institute. "You're going to have a bunch of people walking around with who knows what, spreading Lord knows what," he said. "They ride the Metro seven days a week, and you do the math." Although most local hospitals said they do not record a patient's legal status, some physicians said the fear of deportation deters many illegals from seeking treatment in emergency rooms.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; biobomb; bushamnesty; diseases; healthcare; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; openborders; publichealth; sickwetbacks; tb; tuberculosis; typhoidmary
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1 posted on 11/10/2005 11:51:20 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

This makes the case clear: illegal immigrants are a grave threat to National Security AND Public Health.

Round 'em up and ship 'em out.


2 posted on 11/10/2005 11:53:06 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: JZelle

If there's so much concern about diseases they may spread GET 'EM THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!!!!!


3 posted on 11/10/2005 11:53:26 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: JZelle

Try "travel services".


4 posted on 11/10/2005 11:53:39 AM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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To: JZelle

Un-freaking-believable!

How about DEPORTING the d@%n illegals?!


5 posted on 11/10/2005 11:54:21 AM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: JZelle
Illegals require health services

After deleting all of the expletives, my post reads as follows:

6 posted on 11/10/2005 11:56:55 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

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7 posted on 11/10/2005 11:57:16 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: JZelle

Well, this is just heartbreaking.  Thinking of all those dusky hued, shiny eyed, exotic people, living in neighborhoods to which I'd never go.  They need health insurance and since they can't afford it, we as Americans, need to provide it for them.  I suggest we pay for it by taxing "The Rich" (people who make more than $30,000 a year).  It's the only "compasionate" thing to do.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

8 posted on 11/10/2005 11:57:33 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: JZelle

Excellent point, if not a new point. They are here, which is a failure of FedGov, but since they are here we ought not allow the introduction of their third world ideas as well. Integrate them and then take up a few matters with FedGov.


9 posted on 11/10/2005 11:58:15 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: JZelle

It constantly amazes me how stupid politicians can be. By having a policy that encourages illegals to enter the country, they ARE the cause of TB outbreaks.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 11:58:36 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NRA1995

haven't you heard that "diversity makes America stronger" ? </sarc>


11 posted on 11/10/2005 11:58:56 AM PST by kingattax
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To: JZelle

Send them wading back across the river.


12 posted on 11/10/2005 12:00:12 PM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: JZelle

Free Health care is one of the many benefits they come here for that we as American citizens are not entitled too.

Maybe putting immigration officers in the emergency rooms would help to round them up and ship them out, and CLOSE THE D*** BORDERS NORTH AND SOUTH.


13 posted on 11/10/2005 12:00:23 PM PST by AmeriBrit (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN CURT WELDON.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I'm not sure it's that they are stupid. It's that they believe WE are. And, to some extent they are right (present company excluded.)
susie


14 posted on 11/10/2005 12:01:07 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: JZelle
The findings of the study reverse the long-held thought that illegals are draining the U.S. health care system and are bringing with them infectious diseases. --clippage -- "For the most part, people that are coming over here, particularly illegally, have a pretty arduous trip to get into this country, and by nature of that trip have to be a pretty healthy person."

This article is almost schizophrenic in its contradictions. Out one corner of their mouth they tell us to spend more because these people are walking infectious biological WMDs. Out of the other side of their mouth they tell us how healthy they are and that our emergency rooms that are closing in Southern California are only pretending to be going bankrupt.

15 posted on 11/10/2005 12:02:51 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I suggest we pay for it by taxing "The Rich" (people who make more than $30,000 a year). It's the only "compasionate" thing to do.

I want to be compassionate, too. Let's tax everyone in the lower 40% of income earners, since they currently either pay no taxes at all or are net beneficiaries of taxes paid by the upper 60%. I want to hear their screams of outrage.

16 posted on 11/10/2005 12:03:33 PM PST by American Quilter (Why doesn't the government have to pay taxes on its income?)
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To: clee1

>>Some health care officials are urging local governments to start providing health care services for the region's illegal aliens <<
Reason #1 why dozens of hospitals in the Southwest have been forced to close.


17 posted on 11/10/2005 12:04:24 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: kingattax
but...


18 posted on 11/10/2005 12:05:03 PM PST by petercooper (The Republican Party: We Suck Less.)
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To: JZelle
Like Able Danger, the threat of diseases accompanying illegals is getting some press but little action. We have seen greater reaction to the nearly-non-existent (as of yet) bird flu than to real diseases.

Whooping cough outbreak linked to illegals
  Posted by Firefigher NC
On News/Activism 06/12/2005 4:36:54 PM CDT · 16 replies · 440+ views


WorldNetDaily ^ | June 12, 2005
The American Academy of Pediatrics is warning of the worst outbreak of whooping cough in 40 years, while those concerned about border control see it as more evidence that vanquished diseases are spreading due to widespread illegal immigration. Whooping Cough, or pertussis, is particularly dangerous for children and can be fatal in infants, warns the doctors group.

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Illegals: TB Delivery Systems
  Posted by Disambiguator
On News/Activism 06/10/2005 10:28:25 AM CDT · 32 replies · 535+ views


FrontPage Magazine ^ | June 10, 2005 | Jennifer Harper
<p>A multidrug-resistant tuberculosis known as MDR-TB is persistent in California, primarily among its "foreign-born" population, and has serious financial implications for the state's public-health system, federal and state health officials said yesterday.</p> <p>"Treatment for MDR-TB is very expensive -- ranging from $200,000 to $1.2 million per person, over an 18- to 24-month time period," said Dr. Reuben Granich, a lead investigator for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during a press conference in the District yesterday.</p>

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TB seen in many aliens, study says
  Posted by JohnHuang2
On News/Activism 06/08/2005 2:51:49 AM CDT · 21 replies · 426+ views


Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, June 8, 2005 | By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES A multidrug-resistant tuberculosis known as MDR-TB is persistent in California, primarily among its "foreign-born" population, and has serious financial implications for the state's public-health system, federal and state health officials said yesterday. "Treatment for MDR-TB is very expensive -- ranging from $200,000 to $1.2 million per person, over an 18- to 24-month time period," said Dr. Reuben Granich, a lead investigator for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during a press conference in the District yesterday. Dr. Granich's findings were published yesterday in tomorrow's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in an...

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TB seen in many aliens
  Posted by USMale
On News/Activism 06/09/2005 1:55:02 AM CDT · 24 replies · 521+ views


The Washington Times ^ | June 8, 2005 | Jennifer Harper
A multidrug-resistant tuberculosis known as MDR-TB is persistent in California, primarily among its "foreign-born" population, and has serious financial implications for the state's public-health system, federal and state health officials said yesterday. "Treatment for MDR-TB is very expensive -- ranging from $200,000 to $1.2 million per person, over an 18- to 24-month time period," said Dr. Reuben Granich, a lead investigator for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during a press conference in the District yesterday.

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Are illegals making U.S. a leper colony? (Leprosy in America)
  Posted by wagglebee
On News/Activism 05/22/2005 4:19:16 PM CDT · 68 replies · 1,551+ views


WorldNetDaily ^ | 5/22/05 | WorldNetDaily
Leprosy, the contagious skin disease evoking thoughts of biblical and Medieval times, is now making its mark in the United States, and many believe the influx of illegal aliens is a main factor. "Americans should be told that diseases long eradicated in this country – tuberculosis, leprosy, polio, for example – and other extremely contagious diseases have been linked directly to illegals," Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., told the Business Journal of Phoenix. "For example, in 40 years, only 900 persons were afflicted by leprosy in the U.S.; in the past three years, more than 7,000 cases have been presented." "This...

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41 Chicken Plant Workers Infected with Tuberculosis (Tyson)
  Posted by shellshocked
On News/Activism 05/04/2005 4:23:29 PM CDT · 114 replies · 2,143+ views


Associated Press ^ | 5/1/2005 | unknown
41 of the 222 workers tested for tuberculosis at a chicken plant in Broken Bow, OK have tested positive for exposure, Oklahoma State Health Department workers say. Health workers began testing workers at the Tyson Foods chicken plant after a worker there was diagnosed with the


Illegal Aliens Threanten U.S. medical system: reports hospitals being closed diseases spread
  Posted by hope
On News/Activism 03/13/2005 10:40:59 AM CST · 106 replies · 2,444+ views


World Net Daily ^ | 3-13-05
Sunday, March 13, 2005 INVASION USAIllegal aliens threaten U.S. medical systemDocs journal reports hospitals being closed, previously vanquished diseases being spread Posted: March 13, 20051:00 a.m. Eastern © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker. He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an "anchor baby" – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in...

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One Reporter's Opinion – Importing Disease
  Posted by ETERNAL WARMING
On News/Activism 02/25/2005 1:09:09 AM CST · 10 replies · 276+ views


NewsMax ^ | Feb 25, 2005 | George Putnam
One Reporter's Opinion – Importing Disease George Putnam Friday, Feb 25, 2005 It is this reporter's opinion that when the president and first lady return from the fence-mending trip to Europe, he and the 'Ayatollah in the White House,' Karl Rove, need to lock themselves in the Oval Office and review the findings of the February 17, 2005 testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee: Three of the nation's highest-ranking Homeland Security officials issued a chilling warning that al-Qaida will exploit our lax border enforcement to infiltrate terrorists and weaponry into the United States. CIA Director Porter Goss, FBI Director Robert...

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Disease, unwanted import
  Posted by ovrtaxt
On News/Activism 02/13/2005 4:14:48 AM CST · 20 replies · 628+ views


washington times ^ | February 13, 2005 | Joyce Howard Price
Contagious diseases are entering the United States because of immigrants, illegal aliens, refugees and travelers, and World Health Organization officials say the worst could be yet to come. In addition to a list of imported diseases that includes tuberculosis, sickle cell anemia, hepatitis B, measles and the potentially deadly parasitic disease Chagas, officials fear what could happen if the avian flu, which is flourishing among poultry in Southeast Asia, mutates so that it is capable of human-to-human transmission through casual contact.


A Ticking Time Bomb: Diseases that Cross American Borders
  Posted by CHARLITE
On News/Activism 12/15/2004 2:42:44 PM CST · 38 replies · 1,488+ views


RUTHERFORD INSTITUTE.COM ^ | DECEMBER 13, 2004 | JOHN W. WHITEHEAD
As an American, I have always been inspired by the fact that my country welcomes those who seek refuge. And as long as our government officials maintain our borders and ensure that those coming from other countries are screened in order to protect those who legally live here, the concept of welcoming immigrants is a noble one. However, something has gone awry. Indeed, illegal immigration into the U.S. has become an immense problem and a clear and present danger. Documented illegal immigration has more than doubled in the last decade. It has grown, by conservative counts, from 3.5 million in...

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Tracks Infectious Diseases
  Posted by oneonly
On News/Activism 04/12/2004 12:27:11 AM CDT · 5 replies · 58+ views


AP ^ | 02/11/04
Tracks Infectious Diseases WICHITA, Kan. (AP) - Programs that track health-related 911 calls and purchases of over-the-counter medication help health authorities in the state's largest city get a jump on tracking outbreaks of infectious disease. Officials say the 911 program, called FirstWatch, can do something else as well - even though they hope it will never have to. FirstWatch, which began tracking calls on Wednesday, is a "smoke detector for bioterrorism," said FirstWatch project director Matthew Ferguson. In the past, health officials have had to rely on reports from doctors and hospitals to track outbreaks. FirstWatch, however, is able to...

19 posted on 11/10/2005 12:05:47 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: DumpsterDiver

"After deleting all of the expletives, my post reads as follows:"

Gee! We think along the same lines!!


20 posted on 11/10/2005 12:06:04 PM PST by ImpotentRage
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: JZelle

We give the French a lot of grief here on FreeRepublic, but they did invent one of the most effective field levelers towards rooting out the endemic ineptitude of a ruling elite class: the guillotine.


22 posted on 11/10/2005 12:13:13 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Chubbie
Hello Free Republic!

Welcome aboard!

23 posted on 11/10/2005 12:15:15 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: JZelle
"You're going to have a bunch of people walking around with who knows what, spreading Lord
knows what,"

It' already happening now. Thanks to our great political leaders in a few years the US will be just another 3rd world country. Thats what Clinton wants so thats what Bush wants.
Senior Whorehay Bush and most of the republicans in office willingly let Vicente Fox dictate our immigration policy. Why? Because they are all dirty and Clinton has the FBI files to prove it. OH, but what about the good job that Bush is doing on the war on terror? Believe me, someone is getting rich on that war somewhere. Oh, but what about the tax cuts? They are already trying to cut deductions so they can increase tax revenue, back door tax hike.
Any vote today is a vote for the status quo. No change just a different face.
24 posted on 11/10/2005 12:19:49 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: TomGuy
The elites don't have to make contact with the masses of illegal aliens like the rest of us do, so they don't care. They won't get sick, and neither will their kids.

Their votes have been sold to the highest bidders in the cheap labor lobby.

My son is currently paying a bill for an emergency room visit - total $1,200. The illegal aliens were going through that ER like sh** through a goose, and they don't pay a cent.

25 posted on 11/10/2005 12:20:42 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: JZelle

I could not believe the Wash Times ran this one-sided piece of propaganda this morning. The editors must be on a retreat.


26 posted on 11/10/2005 12:26:48 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: TomGuy
"Like Able Danger"

The whitehouse is doing it's best to whitewash the whole problem. The lack of anything being done about both Able Danger and Illegal Immigration leads right to Bush. He could get the ball rolling on both issues but he just sits on his hands flaps his arms and quacks like the stinking lame duck that he is. That was two votes I wasted on this conservative poser.
27 posted on 11/10/2005 12:30:40 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: JZelle
"9) I'm in favor of hospitals and health care providers being required to disclose publicly, in print, and upon demand, the names of all non-citizens/indigents receiving any medical care which is billed to or paid for by taxpayers along with the costs of those services billed or be penalized by losing reimbursements for any payments due to be paid from taxpayer funds. All hospitals and health care providers should be held openly accountable for how they spend or use public funds and accountable to the citizen first and the illegal alien only in emergency cases."
28 posted on 11/10/2005 12:32:12 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: PositiveCogins

The only thing that can turn the Republican party around right now is to tackle this problem immediately or Hillary will do it for them.


29 posted on 11/10/2005 12:34:48 PM PST by aCDNinUSA
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To: janetgreen

Every Congressional represenative ought to be forced to spend a day in an emergency ward inundated with hoardes of ailing illegal aliens.

Let THEM breathe the air of compassion for the illegal.


30 posted on 11/10/2005 12:36:41 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: TomGuy
In Federal LEO circles, they're known as Biobombs.

Many were told to seek free medical help in the U.S. by Cuban medical personnel in Latin America and Mexico for unrelated illnesses.

Connect your own dots.

32 posted on 11/10/2005 12:37:30 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (Some settling of consonants may have occurred during shipping.)
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To: Chubbie

Hey! Welcome Abroad!


33 posted on 11/10/2005 12:38:09 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: clee1

Amen!

Close the borders!


35 posted on 11/10/2005 12:39:10 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (Close the borders.....)
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To: JZelle

To late for stopping the spread of infectious diseases like TB.

Go to CDC and see how many cases are reported.


36 posted on 11/10/2005 12:40:29 PM PST by stopem ("It's fun to be me" Denny Crane.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


37 posted on 11/10/2005 12:42:30 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: AmeriBrit

They do come up here for medical services- they bring any ailing family members up for care too. Some illegals work at jobs where health care is offered- they WON'T buy it!! Some are on assistance and won't use the programs already in place for them to use for FREE medical services. Instead they go to the ER for all medical care- yes the most costly care- they don't care they don't pay for it.

Our local dentist felt so bad about the illegals and their children showing up at his office as an emergency and in severe pain, he started a program to donate preventative care to them. All they had to do was make appointment, they didn't. They continued to show up only when needing urgent care and disrupting his schedule. His attempt to get them to accept preventative care was a failure.

Last year an illegal arrived here on a walker, people were amazed he hiked across the border on a walker- when he was asked about it, he wasn't even bashful- he said he needed surgery on the veins in his legs, so he came to the US to get it. Border Patrol did not respond, the State Police did and they said they were taking him to a homeless shelter in a nearby town and the folks at the shelter would make sure he got the care he needed. It really has reached the limit.


38 posted on 11/10/2005 12:46:38 PM PST by Tammy8 (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON)
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To: TomGuy; JZelle; gubamyster; DumpsterDiver

Oh I just love this. Whooping cough? TB? What are the symptoms, because I've been coughing since July. I finally went to the doctor late last month and paid cash. He didn't do a chest xray, and told me I wouldn't be able to afford the Biaxin. I took the antibiotics he prescribed, and I'm still coughing. I frequent Hispanic markets, and dirt cheap discount stores.

In fact, I'm exhausted and can't clean the house.


39 posted on 11/10/2005 12:46:38 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: aCDNinUSA
"or Hillary will do it for them."

Someting tells me that the fix is in on this one. If the republicans run another Dole in 08 then I know it to be true. A third party candidate running as a conservative on the immigration issue could draw enough votes off of the republican candidate that the beast could win. If thats the case then it's quite possible that the Hildabeast could be the last president of the United States.
40 posted on 11/10/2005 12:48:34 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: RightWhale
"Integrate Deport them and then take up a few matters with FedGov."

Law breakers do not require "integration" but arrest and deportation.

42 posted on 11/10/2005 12:51:40 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: JZelle
I believe we should offer amnesty to these poor CRIMINAL INVADERS.
Give them 2 weeks to get the HE!! out of our country.
Bury the ones who don't honor this amnesty in jail or __.
Give huge fines and jail time to all of their aiders or abettors, private or government.
43 posted on 11/10/2005 12:53:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I shot an error into the air. It's still going everywhere. R. A. HEINLEIN)
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To: JZelle
Un-fricken-real.

Makes me want to join the tax protestors.

44 posted on 11/10/2005 1:00:47 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: Czar

Sure, but it's not happening. We the people have to deal with the hand the FedGov dealt us, and that means the States are stuck with it. The Corporations have about five times the resources of FedGov and about five times the power. We might consider approaching the Corporations to resolve the problem, since we own the Corporations and they appear to be more responsive than Gummint. Besides, it appears the Corporations are encouraging this situation in the first place. The law comes from below, from the people. The illegals are not so much law breakers, but extralegal, and that is they way it is in 80% of the world. That's right, the third world is arriving in the most capitalist of the Western countries, and Gummint cannot deal with it. It's happening everywhere, France being the latest Western country to get a sharp stick in the eye. Gummint cannot handle it, but the Corporations might.


45 posted on 11/10/2005 1:09:10 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: JZelle

We could either spend money treating them or spend money building a double thick concrete wall running the length of the border. Hmmm. Let me think.

I'll go with Option B.


46 posted on 11/10/2005 1:17:48 PM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: RightWhale
"The illegals are not so much law breakers, but extralegal, and that is they way it is in 80% of the world."

The illegals are very much law breakers because they are in this country illegally. Don't try to paper it over by saying that's the way it is everywhere else.

"We the people have to deal with the hand the FedGov dealt us, and that means the States are stuck with it."

We the people don't have to do any such thing. In case you've forgotten, or perhaps went to public school, the government works for us. The states are only stuck with it to the extent we refuse to insist the federal government enforce our immigration laws. You seem to feel this is too much to ask.

Your comments indicate a very large gap in your understanding of the illegal alien problem. To catch up, you need to do a lot of homework.

47 posted on 11/10/2005 1:19:53 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: RightWhale
Corporations?

Never depend on anyone or anything who worships to the great almighty dollar. GM and their exploding gas tanks is a good example. It's cheaper to pay off a politician than fix the problem. The Corporations stand right now on this issue is "tough, live with it".
48 posted on 11/10/2005 1:20:37 PM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: Czar

Gummint is riding a tiger now. Gummint, huge though it is, does not have the resources anymore to deal with the tiger and can only hope to not get thrown off. I appreciate your suggestions for further education and am already expanding my reading list. I won't bore you with suggestions of my own since I do not know the extent of your personal library of appropriate reading.


49 posted on 11/10/2005 1:29:51 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Tammy8
" Some illegals work at jobs where health care is offered- they WON'T buy it!!"

They won't use it if it's offered for free, either. I know personally of a situation where an illegal had health benefits, but lied to Social Services (don't ya love the name...) about her employment, and was put on welfare. She used Medi-Cal, so Cali citizens got to pick up the tab.

See, there are these pesky CO-PAYS that eat into the beer budget...

50 posted on 11/10/2005 1:30:28 PM PST by Mugwump
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