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Lightfoot ballad helps keep alive memory of Edmund Fitzgerald- Ship sinks 30 years ago today
Mlive.com ^ | 11.10.05 | MIKE HOUSEHOLDER

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:43:45 PM PST by apackof2

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To: yldstrk

What caused the ship to sink? There are a couple of theories cited in the "Marine Casualty Report" by the US. Coast Guard Marine Board of Investigation Report. Since there were no survivors nor witnesses, their report is based on testimonies and an underwater survey of the wreck. This report suggests that the Fitzgerald was taking on water due to earlier damage from the storm and that around 7:15 p.m. it plunged headfirst into a large wave and sank abruptly.


21 posted on 11/10/2005 1:53:25 PM PST by apackof2 (There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman... neither works. Will Rogers)
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To: Senator Bedfellow; rlmorel
My mother was a young woman, 20 years old, working at the Hertz reservation desk at Newark airport. Gordon came to the desk to get his car. When he found out that the car he asked for was not available, he grabbed my mother and started shaking her. Three burly security guards had to pull him off.

That's real macho for a Canuck. He was just lucky that my grandfather wasn't around to kick his a-s.

22 posted on 11/10/2005 1:53:37 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: Clemenza

Harry Chapin was hitting on my date when we saw him in concert in 1977.


23 posted on 11/10/2005 1:54:07 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SlowBoat407

That is a GREAT tagline!!!!!

I have listened to that song a bunch of times, and it always gives me a sense of the feeling of helplessness that nature can engender amongst those who have seen it at its worst.

When experienced sailors look at each other and say "We're screwed..." it usually means something.


24 posted on 11/10/2005 1:54:46 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: apackof2
Many owe their awareness of the Fitzgerald's fate to Lightfoot,

I am one... of many.

25 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:20 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Request or send care packages for/to troops at www.opgratitude.com)
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To: apackof2
51 years ago I was one of them that went down to sail the sea in ships
8years later I got married, ah-- but the memories linger
26 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:25 PM PST by munin ( I support the war on Muslim terror)
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To: SlowBoat407

Harry Chapin should have known better not to take a VW Rabbit on the LIE.


27 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:34 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: apackof2

I just read an article on Wikipedia about it a few seconds ago. At 19:10 the final transmission was sent saying "we are holding our own", but by 19:20 a near by ship couldn't find the Fitzgerald on radar.

Eerie.


28 posted on 11/10/2005 1:55:42 PM PST by BostonianRightist (Justice: A Dish Best Served Swiftly)
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To: apackof2

One of the most haunting songs ever written.

"Does anyone know
Where the love of God goes,
When the waves to the minutes to hours."

I can really picture the horror those men suffered and it brings tears to my eyes.


29 posted on 11/10/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Clemenza

gahh. Typical celebrity. He was probably in detox...


30 posted on 11/10/2005 1:56:13 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel
When experienced sailors look at each other and say "We're screwed..." it usually means something.

Usually sailors will put on a good show for each other. In addition to being an ego thing, it helps keep morale up just a little bit longer.

The tagline is the last part of a line from a show called "Slings and Arrows", which begins, "Many of you are under the impression that my reason is hanging by a thread. I'm here to tell you that the best stuff happens just before the thread snaps."

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.

31 posted on 11/10/2005 1:57:20 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Clemenza

Well, isn't that special? I always had him pegged as a wuss, but now I guess I'll upgrade that to full-on jackass ;)


32 posted on 11/10/2005 1:57:37 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: RetiredArmy

I ran a fuel bunkering operation in Duluth-Superior for 16 years and the captain of our lighter vessel helped put the last N6 oil on board the Fitz. He knew most of the guys who worked for Columbia Steamship Company, the ship's owner. He said the regular cook was ill and missed the last voyage. His replacement cook was a spooky guy and on the evening they left Superior he mentioned that he felt he was going to a better place sometime soon.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 1:57:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: flashbunny

I agree. I'd also say that gazing out across a gray, rain-swept Lake Superior on a cold autumn day conjures up particularly forlorn, haunting emotions.


34 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: apackof2

Great song, but "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" is even better, and Lightfoot's best song.


35 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:36 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: flashbunny

Gord sure can tell a story.


36 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Clemenza

Oh I am sorry to hear that, sounds like he had an anger mangement and/or emtional problems


37 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:24 PM PST by apackof2 (There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman... neither works. Will Rogers)
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To: Clemenza
he grabbed my mother and started shaking her. Three burly security guards had to pull him off.

...and your mom did not have him arrested for assault or sued? Yeah right!

38 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:27 PM PST by Bommer
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To: La Enchiladita

The Ftizgerald was famous on the lakes; set 2 speed records.

The owner died of a heart attack at the ship's launching when it lurched back toward the dock.

Everyone said it was cursed.


40 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:15 PM PST by Mikey_1962
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