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Did the Washington Post Violate the Electronic Communications Privacy Act? (MD4Bush)
NRO ^ | 11/10/05 | Stephen Spruiell

Posted on 11/10/2005 2:29:24 PM PST by Republican Red

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1 posted on 11/10/2005 2:29:25 PM PST by Republican Red
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To: Republican Red; Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 11/10/2005 2:32:16 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Republican Red

This story is starting to grow more legs.


3 posted on 11/10/2005 2:32:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: conservative in nyc

fyi and ping list


4 posted on 11/10/2005 2:33:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Cicero

This is going to be the Post's Rathergate before it is done.


5 posted on 11/10/2005 2:33:24 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: HAL9000

I think you were the first to bring up this potential law breaking event by the Compost.


6 posted on 11/10/2005 2:34:04 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Outstanding!


7 posted on 11/10/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Republican Red
It might be good time for everyone to check their mutual funds to see if they are invested in the Compost.


8 posted on 11/10/2005 2:36:18 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Republican Red
The Post maintains that it does not know the identity of MD4Bush, but it has refused to name the "someone" who gave Mosk MD4Bush's sign-on information.

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How do you know who "someone" IS without knowing who that someone IS and still give them info that is clearly in violation of the law? :-\

9 posted on 11/10/2005 2:38:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cicero

NRO got involved a few days ago. Spruill and K-lo seemed to be very interested.


10 posted on 11/10/2005 2:38:11 PM PST by Republican Red (Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.)
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To: Republican Red
MIDI - LAST KISS

He thought that he'd play a dirty trick
The guy thought he was really slick
The Maryland gov he had been planning to nail
The strategy was brilliant, and there's no way that he could fail

He had logged on and signed up for FReeperville
The rush it gave him was a thrill
His subterfuge was a game
Steffen's set up, and he'd take the blame
They had discussed an O'Malley affair
The Mayor said there's nothing there
Perhaps his wife's not Number One
Those wascally Wepublicans

Oh where, oh where is MD4Bush
We'll be kicking his worthless tush
He thought he'd fool us and that he was so great
But just like Mapes and Rather there's a lesson he learned too late

Steffen got the axe and MD's riding high
He thought he had been so very sly
Ehrlich's hurt, O'Malley's polls would rise
Unknown to them, they would get a surprise
The brilliant plan would soon become undone
Do not mess with Mr. Robinson
A trail was left that led back to the Dems
It's not surprising that it had been them
Time to admit all the mischief that you wrought
MD4BUSH, now you've been caught

Oh where, oh where is MD4Bush
We'll be kicking his worthless tush
He thought he'd fool us and that he was so great
But just like Mapes and Rather there's a lesson he learned too late

He's in hiding now...poor MD4BUSH
He'll wet his pants and how...we will kick his tush
He's gone in hiding now...poor MD4BUSH
He'll wet his pants and how...we will kick his tush

11 posted on 11/10/2005 2:40:45 PM PST by doug from upland ("Susan Estrich...get off your kneepads" - Juanita Broaddrick)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

They should have learned from Rather. The longer they wait, the worse it gets. If they had any sense, they'd have fired the reporter responsible long since and cut their losses. But it's too late for that now.


12 posted on 11/10/2005 2:42:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Republican Red

This is getting to be fun. Long-run popcorn item...


13 posted on 11/10/2005 2:44:31 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: Republican Red

Yes, but this is a much longer article, isn't it?

The Washington Times ran an article too, which is linked in the NR article. But they still got one thing wrong, namely that Steffen was drawn by MD4BUSH into spreading rumors. Steffen never spread any rumors, contrary to the Post, and that now seems to be true of the private emails as well as the public threads. All Steffen said is "don't go there," or words to that effect.


14 posted on 11/10/2005 2:46:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Republican Red

Sue! Sue! Sue!


15 posted on 11/10/2005 2:55:17 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: All
Below is the relevant section of the law and the Registration and User Agreement.

Unlawful Access to Stored Communications 18 U.S.C. 2701.

"§ 2701. Unlawful Access to Stored Communications

(a) Offense.--Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section whoever–

(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided; or

(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility; and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished as provided in subsection (b) of this section. "

Registration and User Agreement

"User Account Confidentiality: User agrees to protect user's account and password and not to disclose account information to any third party."

The WP did exceed an authorization to access FR by using anothers password(Forbidden under the Users Agreement which govern the access of users) to access FRmails and did not make any attempt to determine the rules of access to FR or presumably they would not have improperly used anothers password. They flat did violate section 2b of 18 U.S.C. 2701 in that they did not view, or observe the rules if they did view them. If the reporter was unaware of 2b of 18 U.S.C. 2701 it won't help. A professional at a large newspaper should know or should have asked.

The article additionally points out that for Mosk to legally use the MD4Bush account he would have needed to get the permission of FR first, which he certainly did not. The only other way legally is if Mosk was MD4Bush, which I doubt.

16 posted on 11/10/2005 2:58:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NormsRevenge

"How do you know who "someone" IS without knowing who that someone IS and still give them info that is clearly in violation of the law? :-\"

First of all, we must define the definition of "is".


17 posted on 11/10/2005 3:01:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I knew someone would catch the inference of the word IS. ;-)


18 posted on 11/10/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Republican Red

Still trying to find a concise comparison/contrast of MD4BUSH/Jeff Gannon fiascoes to forward to my libby friends. (And for my own education) Anyone?


19 posted on 11/10/2005 3:03:28 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Republican Red

Looks like WaPo has got itself deep in the do do.


20 posted on 11/10/2005 3:06:56 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thanks for the documentation and references.

So who will be the Compost's Mary Mapes, and who will be their Danny Blather?


21 posted on 11/10/2005 3:09:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Republican Red
I said basically the same thing the other day.
22 posted on 11/10/2005 3:11:51 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Grampa Dave

Really nothing happens on the WP end until charges are pressed. You can count on the WP to stonewall until that time comes.


23 posted on 11/10/2005 3:12:42 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It will be fun to watch them twist and turn in the winds of truth.


24 posted on 11/10/2005 3:14:52 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM pseudo reporters use "could, may, and might" when they are lying and spinning.)
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To: Grampa Dave; NCPAC; MD4Bush; xcullen; Anti-Bubba182; Mo1; cyncooper; BillF; crushkerry; Howlin; ...
ping

Borrowed conservative in nyc's ping list with his prior permission.

25 posted on 11/10/2005 3:15:24 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Grampa Dave

Their attorneys should be looking at the law right about now.


26 posted on 11/10/2005 3:16:22 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dems_R_Losers

From your lips to God's ears.


27 posted on 11/10/2005 3:20:24 PM PST by Kay
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To: Republican Red

The WaPo is in trouble with FR?

Poetic justice is afoot.


28 posted on 11/10/2005 3:22:02 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Grampa Dave

This is just so absolutely delicious :)


29 posted on 11/10/2005 3:23:32 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Anti-Bubba182

"Their attorneys should be looking at the law right about now."

I'm sure the Compost's attorney's are monitoring all threads dealing with MD4BUSH.

If they weren't aware of that law, they are now after you posted it! :)


30 posted on 11/10/2005 3:24:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: Republican Red

This is a WaPo op pop! Interesting to see what happens.


31 posted on 11/10/2005 3:27:08 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Gabz

Yes it is! It is especially nice after all the puffery about GOP dirty tricks earlier in the year.


32 posted on 11/10/2005 3:27:34 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Grampa Dave

All they can do is wait and see if the hammer drops on them. It will get very interesting if that happens.


33 posted on 11/10/2005 3:28:42 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Really nothing happens on the WP end until charges are pressed. You can count on the WP to stonewall until that time comes.

A court ordered revealing of IP info would be sweet once the papers are served. WAPO would definately be pushing for closed door courts on the matter to save face (while leaking just what the want to be heard to friendly press comrades).

34 posted on 11/10/2005 3:29:01 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: Cicero
Legs, teeth, and damn ugly!
35 posted on 11/10/2005 3:32:09 PM PST by stacytec (Nihilism, destorying an "ism" near you!)
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To: Republican Red; Jim Robinson
The conclusion of this article is the same as the suggestion I posted as a First Amendment lawyer, on another thread. Everyone who comes on FreeRepublic and signs in to use the Freepmail (and to get posting privileges) reads the Terms of Use. MD4Bush was on notice not to five his information to any "third party."

More importantly, Matthew Mosk, reporter for WashPost was also on warning. He was on warning that MD4Bush COULD NOT grant permission for a third party, namely Mosk, to access that account. So, regardless of the "permission of the intermediary" which the Post claimed to have, they still did not have valid permission to access MD4Bush's account.

I conclude, strongly, that FreeRepublic is within its rights, on the circumstances of this particular situation, ro reveal to the public all information it has about the various times of access on this one particular account -- regardless of whether the person on the keyboard was MD4Bush, Mosk, or anyone else, signing in as MD4Bush.

If there is any blowback from that release, I will be happy to testify in court or in deposition that on the circumstances and facts of this situation, that action is legitimate.

John Armor, Esq.

36 posted on 11/10/2005 3:32:45 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
If they have clicked, you must convict!
37 posted on 11/10/2005 3:33:06 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: LowOiL
"A court ordered revealing of IP info would be sweet once the papers are served. WAPO would definately be pushing for closed door courts on the matter to save face..."

It would be sweet. The court would have to find out for certain that Mosk was not MD4Bush to act. I don't think WP could get a "Closed door court", but Grand Jurys are like that.

38 posted on 11/10/2005 3:33:38 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thanks for the ping.


39 posted on 11/10/2005 3:34:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Welcome.


40 posted on 11/10/2005 3:35:40 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Republican Red

Maybe we won't have to have quarterly Freepathons after the Posts gets sued.


41 posted on 11/10/2005 3:35:51 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Republican Red

The windmills of the gods not only grind slow but they grind out some pretty strange stuff.


42 posted on 11/10/2005 3:36:36 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not all problems can be solved with a sledge hammer. Sometimes nitroglycerin is required. Or a Nuke)
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To: Republican Red; lightingguy

Can you say "irony"? I know you can!


43 posted on 11/10/2005 3:36:41 PM PST by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: Grampa Dave

Damn!!!! that's a beautiful graph.


44 posted on 11/10/2005 3:40:11 PM PST by evad ( Politicians are devious scum)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

bttt


45 posted on 11/10/2005 3:41:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz

"This is just so absolutely delicious :)"

We will be buying extra popcorn to enjoy as the Compost takes a really big hit with this crime they committed to create news for their political bias.


46 posted on 11/10/2005 3:41:57 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: Republican Red

Wooooooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooo !


47 posted on 11/10/2005 3:42:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BulletBobCo

This is more likely to be a criminal rather than civil matter.


48 posted on 11/10/2005 3:43:19 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This is REALLY getting good. :-)


49 posted on 11/10/2005 3:43:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: aculeus
Poetic justice is afoot.

Exactly what I thought. The shoe on the other foot sort of thing!

50 posted on 11/10/2005 3:43:52 PM PST by ladyinred ("Progressive" = code word for Communist/Nazi)
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