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Clinton Calls Impeachment Egregious Abuse
Associated Press ^ | November 11, 2005 | FRANK ELTMAN

Posted on 11/11/2005 6:55:31 AM PST by Senator Goldwater

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. - Former president Bill Clinton called Congress' impeachment of him an "egregious" abuse of the Constitution and challenged those who say history will judge him poorly because of his White House tryst with Monica Lewinsky.

Speaking at an academic conference examining his presidency here Thursday, Clinton challenged historian Douglas Brinkley's comments in a newspaper interview that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment.

"I completely disagree with that," Clinton said in his speech at Hofstra University. "You can agree with that statement, but only if you think impeachment was justified. Otherwise, it was an egregious abuse of the Constitution and law and history of our country."

Clinton was acquitted by the Senate of perjury and obstruction of justice at his 1999 impeachment trial, which he argued was not about what he called his "misconduct."

"Now if you want to hold it against me that I did something wrong, that's a fair deal," he said. "If you do that, then you have a whole lot of other questions, which is how many other presidents do you have to downgrade and what are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

Clinton touted what he called the achievements of his eight-year presidency, from Middle East peace initiatives to turning around the U.S. economy.

His remarks were cheered loudly by the audience.

Clinton said his administration's failures included its slowness to act to halt the genocide in Rwanda and the decision to allow federal agents to raid a cult leader's compound in Waco, Texas. Nearly 80 cult followers died in a fire during the 1993 confrontation.

"We should have waited them out," he said.

The presidential conference is the 11th to be held at Hofstra; the first in 1982 examined the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.


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1 posted on 11/11/2005 6:55:32 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater
Better put some ice on it.
2 posted on 11/11/2005 6:56:19 AM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Senator Goldwater
"Clinton challenged historian Douglas Brinkley's comments in a newspaper interview that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment."

I'd challenge Doug Brinkley's assertion that Clinton was a great president regardless of impeachment.

3 posted on 11/11/2005 6:56:59 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: inquest

Still a pig's ear, or worse.


5 posted on 11/11/2005 6:58:05 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Former president Bill Clinton called Congress' impeachment of him an "egregious" abuse of the Constitution

I call it NOT ENOUGH. Put some ice on it bubba.

6 posted on 11/11/2005 6:58:27 AM PST by tioga
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To: Senator Goldwater

Bill Clinton can thank TRENT LOTT that he was not put out of the White House before his term was up!!!!!!!


7 posted on 11/11/2005 6:59:54 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: tioga

Blame it on the "devil with the blue dress..."


8 posted on 11/11/2005 7:00:18 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Senator Goldwater

He would have been a crap president even if he'd never been impeached.


9 posted on 11/11/2005 7:02:11 AM PST by RichInOC (Bill Clinton is a legend in his own mind.)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Clinton said his administration's failures included its slowness to act to halt the genocide in Rwanda and the decision to allow federal agents to raid a cult leader's compound in Waco, Texas. Nearly 80 cult followers died in a fire during the 1993 confrontation. "We should have waited them out," he said.

They were just minding their own business in the White House when those bad federal agents demanded that they be allowed to burn those children to death??? Yeah, right.

May you live a long life full of pain and madness, Bill Clinton. Following your wife's humiliating ejection from American politics.

Pinz

10 posted on 11/11/2005 7:03:17 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Senator Goldwater
Clinton said in his speech at Hofstra University. "You can agree with that statement, but only if you think impeachment was justified. Otherwise, it...

There are hundreds of thousands of felons across the U.S. who can mount the identical argument, if they only had a similar snake-oil salesman's gift of gab...

11 posted on 11/11/2005 7:03:28 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: inquest
Clinton: "What are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

Did any of them attempt to subvert a federal civil rights case with perjury and subornation of perjury?

You did, which is why history will record you are only one of two presidents ever tagged with such ignominy.

12 posted on 11/11/2005 7:04:18 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater
""If you do that, then you have a whole lot of other questions, which is how many other presidents do you have to downgrade and what are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

Still bitter, still unrepentent, still blaming other's for his problems, still unable to accept responsibility for his disgraceful behavior. Still pointing to other men's sins. The man will never get it.

13 posted on 11/11/2005 7:04:21 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Clinton is a limp-wristed narcissist.

He is a weakling pervert con-artist.

All the great attributes of a Democrat.....

Jimmy Carter wannabe.....

14 posted on 11/11/2005 7:04:34 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: All
For time and all eternity, Bill Clinton will be remembered as the punch line for hundreds, if not thousands, of dirty jokes. Choke on it, Bubba.
15 posted on 11/11/2005 7:05:34 AM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: Senator Goldwater
Speaking at an academic conference examining his presidency here Thursday, Clinton challenged historian Douglas Brinkley's comments in a newspaper interview that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment.

Yeah, and the Titanic was a marvel of marine engineering until they rammed it into an iceberg!

Clinton's presidency will be always and forever associated with his impeachment, and I take issue with the statement that he would have been deemed a great president. He did NOTHING!

16 posted on 11/11/2005 7:05:57 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Senator Goldwater
I too disagree with Brinkley. Clinton would be an unmemorable President were it not for his impeachment. He showed that with a willing cast of accomplices that you can make a pig look pretty good for a time. In the cold light of history when presidential accomplishments are reduced to a few paragraphs, there won't be room for much else. Of course lists of his failures like Waco, and the Gonzales affair don't count for much either. Does anyone recall an attorney general from say the Truman Administration? In the long run Presidents are judged on their deeds not their surrogates. Looks like a cold cold legacy.
17 posted on 11/11/2005 7:05:58 AM PST by Steamburg (Pretenders everywhere)
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To: Senator Goldwater
and challenged those who say history will judge him poorly because of his White House tryst with Monica Lewinsky.

Oh, Willie, there's a lot more than that to cause history to judge you poorly.

18 posted on 11/11/2005 7:06:38 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Hurl the invective!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
how many other presidents do you have to downgrade and what are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

What are we going to do?

Thank them all for the good grace, the class, the lack of trailer park mentality, and strength of character displayed by sliding into obscurity and not adding insult to injury by insisting on remaining in the public spotlight.

19 posted on 11/11/2005 7:06:50 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Senator Goldwater

It is very important to note that Clinton chose to talk about his impeachment rather that his "accomplishments". Were there any?


20 posted on 11/11/2005 7:08:01 AM PST by Steamburg (Pretenders everywhere)
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To: hang 'em
William Jefferson Clinton should be arrested, tried in a lawful court of law, convicted and executed for TREASON.

The law ought to be able to find something in this puny list (there is much more)

RECORDS SET - The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance - Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates* - Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation - Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify - Most number of witnesses to die suddenly - First president sued for sexual harassment. - First president accused of rape. - First first lady to come under criminal investigation - Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case - First president to establish a legal defense fund. - First president to be held in contempt of court - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions - Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

21 posted on 11/11/2005 7:08:18 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Clinton said his administration's failures included its slowness to act to halt the genocide in Rwanda and the decision to allow federal agents to raid a cult leader's compound in Waco, Texas. Nearly 80 cult followers died in a fire during the 1993 confrontation.

Notice he didn't mention anything about a group called 'al Qaeda' or 'Osama bin Laden' in that statement. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

22 posted on 11/11/2005 7:09:07 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Jesus Christ almighty, GET OVER IT, SLICKO SICKO!!


23 posted on 11/11/2005 7:09:08 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: Senator Goldwater

He caused his own problems and GOT CAUGHT......but we should have gone after him for more serioius charges.


24 posted on 11/11/2005 7:10:14 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

The Clinton legacy is that we now call a Lewinsky a Lewinsky.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 7:10:57 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Red power, red power)
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To: Senator Goldwater
I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully and testifying falsely, but I now recognize that I did not fully accomplish this goal and that certain of my responses to questions about Ms. Lewinsky were false.

President Clinton's statement on conclusion of Whitewater investigation

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/19/clinton.transcript/

26 posted on 11/11/2005 7:11:25 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Senator Goldwater
check out the following. Proves Brinkley is a liar.

You can HEAR clinton talk about his impeachment here:

Historian massages clinton numbers, ego + legacy at revisionist confab
click on "loser," (clinton's middle finger)

27 posted on 11/11/2005 7:11:36 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Senator Goldwater
He said on one TV show that his biggest regret was not getting Usama......He was obsessed with him....Remember!!

Everything was just rosey when he was President...well, except for WACO, OKC, The Embassies, the 1993 Towers Bombing (ON OUR SOIL) by the way, the Cole, Bosnia, the bombing of the Chinese Embassy, etc, etc, etc.

He RECENTLY said that if he went on TV with the truth about Monica at the time it came to light, he would have been kicked out of the Whitehouse. He lied to cause controversy and give him "time". At one time, he arrogantly said that he considered impeachment a "badge of honor". He hasn't changed and Hillary is not only like him, she is worse. She is the person who gave him "permission" to have affairs by "doing nothing". POWER!!!

28 posted on 11/11/2005 7:12:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Clinton Administration was an Egregious Abuse.

The shortest book ever: Bill Clinton's Achievements (well, the positive ones...there were plenty of failures).


29 posted on 11/11/2005 7:13:37 AM PST by mak5
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To: Senator Goldwater
Hey Slick!

Do you think Scooter's indictment for lying-under-oath about a non-crime is egregious as well?

30 posted on 11/11/2005 7:13:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Senator Goldwater

The impeached POS needs to be denounced regularly.


31 posted on 11/11/2005 7:15:01 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Senator Goldwater
Clinton v. Jones (95-1853), 520 U.S. 681 (1997)

"Like every other citizen who properly invokes that jurisdiction, respondent has a right to an orderly disposition of her claims."

"Orderly disposition", IE: without manipulation by the Executive Branch.

32 posted on 11/11/2005 7:15:16 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Senator Goldwater

Of course, Clinton and the media play up the sex, and completely ignore the purjury, subornation of purjury, and obstruction of justice, in a case where he was the defendant.

Never mind that his sexual misconduct was able to be introduced in a court due to a law he promoted and signed.

Mark


33 posted on 11/11/2005 7:16:40 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Steamburg

It's instructive to remember that this Brinkley is the same fellow who tried to make a hero out of the anti-American fraud, John Kerry. I place zero faith in his credibility or anything he writes - noted hisorian, indeed...ROFLMAO


34 posted on 11/11/2005 7:17:38 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Bubba is a Loser.


35 posted on 11/11/2005 7:18:58 AM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
For the billionth time, it wasn't about sex, it was about perjury, witness tampering, obstruction of justice and other real crimes committed with his pants up.
36 posted on 11/11/2005 7:19:06 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Slick will forever been know as the Slacker President presiding over a Know-Nothing Do-Nothing Administration who ordered military action on US citizens resulting in deaths of many innocent women and children, gave Communist China technology to target and guide their multi-warhead nukes and allowed OBL to complete is 911 attack.
37 posted on 11/11/2005 7:20:08 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: astounded

Forgot....Clinton raised taxes on the most vunerable via a fuel tax. And he raised general taxes on everyone else. If I could "take" a little bit from everyone I know, I'd have money in the Kitty, too.


38 posted on 11/11/2005 7:21:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
Below is the USS KLINTOON sailing off into the Twilight Zone!!

Your legacy, yeah.... HA! HA! HA!

39 posted on 11/11/2005 7:23:20 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (You can't tell how good a man or a watermelon is 'til they get thumped. Character shows when tested)
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To: coloradan

Bill, you can get a hero award from Commie China for those missile plans. Now zip it!


40 posted on 11/11/2005 7:24:24 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: Senator Goldwater

Clinton piously signed the law that gave a women to ask the questions of a mans personel life in a sexual harassment suit.

Hoisted on his own petard?


41 posted on 11/11/2005 7:24:58 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: cloud8

The impeached POS needs to be denounced regularly.



THe media has begun the resurrection process. All bad will be forgotten by 2007 when she announces for the Presidency.


42 posted on 11/11/2005 7:29:00 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

I disagreed with Brinkley as well. Clinton wouldn't be considered a great president even without the impeachment.

He should be remembered as the president that squandered our military and sat idly by while terrorists repeatedly attacked us, culminating in the planning and setup of 9/11.

And I'll personally hate him for making my 12-year-old daughter have to understand what a blow job is for her history class.


43 posted on 11/11/2005 7:29:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rummyfan

Clintons TWO greatest accomplisments:

1. North Korean Threats
The Great Leader of the North, and his father before him,
had made daily threats against yhe U.S. for the past 55
years. Clinton stopped these threats, at least
temporarily, by sending Halfbright to negotiate.
Presto....nuclear power plant....nuclear weapons.

2. China's Inability To Get Satelites Into Orbit
Clinton sent Hughes and Loral representatives to aid
the Chinese. Whats the word "detente"?
Presto...the Chinese can now stage rockets, and last I
heard, were talking about going to the moon.

THANKS BUBBA


44 posted on 11/11/2005 7:31:32 AM PST by Bob from De
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To: Sacajaweau
Forgot....Clinton raised taxes on the most vunerable via a fuel tax. And he raised general taxes on everyone else.

Let's be more explicit...

The First Rapist also began taxing Social Security payments for the first time ever (the real ones, not the welfare ones), plus not only instituted the most massive income tax increase ever, but made it retroactive, another historic first.
(But not in the way he intended it)

45 posted on 11/11/2005 7:34:13 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Senator Goldwater



46 posted on 11/11/2005 7:37:02 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Senator Goldwater
Cheered on by

The Cult of Clinton

47 posted on 11/11/2005 7:38:02 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: Senator Goldwater
In Klintoon's own vernacular...

You IS, What you IS!!

Even a butthead like you should understand...YOU disgraced the Office of the President of the United States of America and displayed your worthless morals for all to see.

Then, you LIED about it!! You lost the Trust of everyone...except your own mindslaves.

This is how WE see you!! So STFU!


48 posted on 11/11/2005 7:39:02 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (You can't tell how good a man or a watermelon is 'til they get thumped. Character shows when tested)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Who but Mr. Sleaze himself would call a conference of former advisers together so he could announce to the press that "I, BillyJeff Clinton, was a Great President"?


49 posted on 11/11/2005 7:40:18 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rummyfan

Saw the story on MSNBC website here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10000996/

Take a look at the first related story:

"Condoms named after Clinton and Lewinsky"

That's his legacy forever more.


50 posted on 11/11/2005 7:45:38 AM PST by CedarDave (The GOP has adopted the Chirac Negotiation Strategy: Posture, appease, surrender.(attribute to cgbg))
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