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Charen: The French Way Implodes
Townhall.com ^ | 11-11-05 | Mona Charen

Posted on 11/11/2005 7:55:04 AM PST by cgk

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1 posted on 11/11/2005 7:55:05 AM PST by cgk
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Reagan Man; just mimi; kesg; SpiderMBA; killjoy; prognostigaator; ...

Mona Charen ping!

FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, this ping list...

2 posted on 11/11/2005 7:56:12 AM PST by cgk (Card-Carrying, Dues-Paying Member of the VCBC {Vast Conservative Base Conspiracy})
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Again, I am glad my great grandfather dumped the french last name from our family. Of course, "Fond DU Lac" is french, unfortunately


3 posted on 11/11/2005 7:59:17 AM PST by sachem longrifle (Proud member of the Fond Du Lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: sachem longrifle

On the bright side at least you don't live there...:)


4 posted on 11/11/2005 8:00:43 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: cgk
Yes, the rioters are all Muslim youths from North Africa and the Middle East. And the racism of French society may fuel the flames to some extent, but the most important factors in this story are economic.

I should have stopped reading right there.

Mona, it's not the economy. Stupid! - tom

5 posted on 11/11/2005 8:00:56 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: cgk

Great article. Mona is at the top of her excellance with this analysis of current france.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 8:01:31 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: cgk

In the jungle, at least everyone is equal.

In ultracivilized France, the barbarians are herded into ghettos and kept in their places.

There are, in fact, two issues here. One is the danger of inviting into any country large numbers of Muslims who have no desire to assimilate. The other is the problem of a sclerotic socialist economy which has no rungs at the bottom of its ladder, so that even immigrants of good will will be disaffected.

Put the two together and you have a recipe for disaster.


7 posted on 11/11/2005 8:03:33 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cgk

Is Chirac still taking Saudi 'campaign' money?

If so he took their money so he rides for their brand....


8 posted on 11/11/2005 8:03:37 AM PST by joesnuffy (No live animals were used nor were any hurt in the making of this tag line.)
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Mona, it's not the economy. Stupid! - tom

Yes in part it is the economy. France is text book non-soviet socialism. They imported workers they could not employ and then hoping to avoid violence, gave them generous welfare benefits.

The above makes for a hopeless day everyday, add in that most of these people are of a cynical, hopeless, and violent religion(islam), you have the volitile happennings in france now.

9 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:13 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: cgk

ping


10 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:45 AM PST by ocr1
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"The French boast of (and American liberals drool over) France's 35-hour workweek."

I like my 40+ hour-a-week job. I particularily like the "+" part when events warrant it. No drooling over Frenchy suppression of productivity here! Then again, I ain't a liberal...


11 posted on 11/11/2005 8:14:31 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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In ultracivilized France, the barbarians are herded into ghettos and kept in their places.

The French thought it was fine for US troops to free France two times, but didn't think it was okay for the US troops to free Iraq.

Are the French leaders racists who only think Europeans deserve self-determination? Do French Muslims wish they had a bright future like the Iraqi Muslims do?

I don't think it is a coincidence that the riots began within 2 days of the official approval of the Iraqi constitution.

12 posted on 11/11/2005 8:17:09 AM PST by syriacus (Libs think US troops freeing France is AOK, but US troops freeing Iraq is BAD. Are they racist?)
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"I don't think it is a coincidence that the riots began within 2 days of the official approval of the Iraqi constitution"

I think it had more to do with the evident success Palestinian violence had in causing Israel to retreat from Gaza.

13 posted on 11/11/2005 8:23:59 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: syriacus

Good post.


14 posted on 11/11/2005 8:24:34 AM PST by jdm
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Mona, it's not the economy. Stupid! - tom

Absolutely correct!

I like to point out the idiocy of European quasi-socialism any chance I get, and it certainly is A problem, but these people cannot be assimilated into either the economy or the social system, because they refuse to assimilate. That's not why they are there.

They are there to establish a foothold for Islam.

15 posted on 11/11/2005 8:28:05 AM PST by wayoverontheright (.)
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To: syriacus
I don't think it is a coincidence that the riots began within 2 days of the official approval of the Iraqi constitution.

I agree. Iraq was the central war for the enemy, they have said so many times. Islam does not like what it sees in Iraq. Both the French riots and the Jordanian bombings are an indication of frustration with where things are headed in Iraq.

Why France? Because they are expendable as an ally now, because the jihad sees Iraq as lost. This is an attempt to change the subject.

16 posted on 11/11/2005 8:32:20 AM PST by wayoverontheright (.)
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think it had more to do with the evident success Palestinian violence had in causing Israel to retreat from Gaza.

Good thought. It seem like Muslims are "feeling their oats."

17 posted on 11/11/2005 8:32:34 AM PST by syriacus (Libs think US troops freeing France is AOK, but US troops freeing Iraq is BAD. Are they racist?)
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[The riots are] an attempt to change the subject.

It seems that way. The poor MSM is confused about how to cover this.

18 posted on 11/11/2005 8:36:30 AM PST by syriacus (Libs think US troops freeing France is AOK, but US troops freeing Iraq is BAD. Are they racist?)
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"...the Jordanian bombings are an indication of frustration with where things are headed in Iraq."

Speaking of the Jordanian bombings, by now, I fully expected that these bombings would have been disavowed by Al Queda and blamed on Israeli agents. As soon as this happens, the entire Muslim world will fall in line and blame Israel for attempting to discredit the Muslim Holy Jihad.

Al Queda really must be slipping to miss this opportunity..

19 posted on 11/11/2005 8:41:51 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: cgk

Jean Francois Kerry applauds the actions of the French government.


20 posted on 11/11/2005 8:50:12 AM PST by popdonnelly
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