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Toronto gripped by US gun violence
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Posted on 11/11/2005 1:02:46 PM PST by jlasoon

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1 posted on 11/11/2005 1:02:46 PM PST by jlasoon
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To: jlasoon

But wait--doesn't Canada have gun laws to take care of this sort of thing?


2 posted on 11/11/2005 1:03:49 PM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: jlasoon

Exporting our gun culture?!?! Sure... what is one more thing to stack upon the old Blame USA pile... sheesh...


3 posted on 11/11/2005 1:04:26 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: jlasoon

Dang, you beat me! Though so you know, you can post the entire article here from Yahoo.


4 posted on 11/11/2005 1:04:38 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (There are more conspiracies at DU then there are on Coast to Coast AM.)
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To: denydenydeny
Oh, it does. There's a French-style clause in there somewhere that sez if their gun laws don't work, blame:
5 posted on 11/11/2005 1:05:36 PM PST by kromike
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To: jlasoon

When you criminalize gun ownership, only criminals will have guns.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 1:05:43 PM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: denydenydeny
But wait--doesn't Canada have gun laws to take care of this sort of thing?

Yes, but they do not work so it seems their political parasites have decided to blame some other country.

7 posted on 11/11/2005 1:06:36 PM PST by eskimo
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To: jlasoon

"Residents of Canada's biggest city are living in fear of increasing gun violence and blame their neighbour, the United States, for exporting their gun culture and weapons north"

I blame Canada for exporting socialism and leftism South.


8 posted on 11/11/2005 1:06:44 PM PST by BadAndy (Hey man, do you know your piece is cocked man?)
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To: jlasoon

Uh huh. Right. And law-abiding citizens being effectively disarmed by Canadian gun-grabbing has absolutely nothing to do with this.


9 posted on 11/11/2005 1:06:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: jlasoon

Here just south of the border in North Dakota, everyone owns guns, and crime is the lowest of any state.


10 posted on 11/11/2005 1:06:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: trashcanbred
I suppose, tit for tat, Canadian imports:
11 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:02 PM PST by kromike
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To: jlasoon
"By and large, Canadians are pacifists. We're not gunslingers. This violence is a real departure for us," said police Superintendent Roy Pilkington

Riiight....Just check out http://progun.ca


12 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:17 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: jlasoon
Their problem is they haven't imported our gun culture. If they had, they'd have a lot less violent crime.
13 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:23 PM PST by libstripper
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To: jlasoon
Canada's first such bust that included a bullet-proof baseball cap and a military gas mask

What a bunch of wusses.

14 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:40 PM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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To: jlasoon

Basicaly they are blaming others than themselves, implying the whole US should be subservient to Toronto, implying that they protect their own criminals and blame us instead.... Canada is a slave state, period.


15 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:45 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: jlasoon
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT! Its never Canada's anti-gun regime that's screwed up the situation in Toronto.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

16 posted on 11/11/2005 1:07:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jlasoon
"There is fear of retaliation if they speak to police in some sectors of the community," Pilkington said, blaming mostly gangs, some with international links, fighting over turf and drug sales and using guns imported from the United States, for the violence.

In its August edition, weekly Canadian magazine Maclean's noted that gang murders had tripled since the early 1990s in this country, in contrast to an overall drop in violence. The magazine blamed the rise in part on illegal arms from the neighboring United States.

17 posted on 11/11/2005 1:08:29 PM PST by kcvl
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To: denydenydeny
Canada just wasted billions harassing all its honest citizenry gun owners.

You mean criminals aren't following these totalitarian laws? AMAZING! This phenomenon is clearly America's fault!

18 posted on 11/11/2005 1:08:38 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Brad Cloven

With all those guns, North Dakota must be a depopulated, bullet pocked wasteland. You just can't be right.


19 posted on 11/11/2005 1:09:09 PM PST by libstripper
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To: jlasoon

Michigan doesn't care.


20 posted on 11/11/2005 1:09:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: trashcanbred

That's a pretty cool gun. Please describe


21 posted on 11/11/2005 1:09:32 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: jlasoon

A local online gun shop in Canada? hahahaha


>>>Some 1,782 guns were seized, including a cache of illegal weapons confiscated from a local online retailer this week


22 posted on 11/11/2005 1:09:56 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: jlasoon
Residents of Canada's biggest city ... blame their neighbour, the United States, for exporting their gun culture and weapons north, officials told AFP.

So close your borders.

Ya want us to fluff yer effin' pillow, too?

23 posted on 11/11/2005 1:10:45 PM PST by papertyger
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To: jlasoon
and blame their neighbour, the United States, for exporting their gun culture and weapons north,

Wait, wait, wait. OUR gun culture is more concealed carry and declining gun violence. They are importing BRITISH gun culture... Should have checked the lable before you bought.

24 posted on 11/11/2005 1:10:51 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: jlasoon

OH my goodness - that is just terrible - let's close the boarder ( then watch the violence - gee I wonder which way it will go) eat sheeeeet you frenchy freaks.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 1:11:12 PM PST by kentj
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To: jlasoon
... first such bust that included a bullet-proof baseball cap

I have GOT to get me one of those bullet-proof baseball caps.

26 posted on 11/11/2005 1:11:19 PM PST by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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To: jlasoon
Propaganda from the ruling "totalitarian light" Liberal Party (socialist gun grabbers).


27 posted on 11/11/2005 1:13:24 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: trashcanbred

Ohh cool. The Israeli Corner-shot system :)


28 posted on 11/11/2005 1:13:29 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Maybe the gangs peddling drugs wouldn't be fighting over turf if Canadians (and Americans) stopped buying their drugs...




Canada: Pass the Weed, Dad
by Marni Jackson, (01 Nov 2005)

Maclean's Magazine Canada
Parents Are Smoking Dope With Their Kids. What Are They Thinking?

"It was a little weird, seeing my parents stoned," Tom confesses. The Toronto high school student was describing the first time he'd smoked marijuana -- at home last spring, just after turning 17, when he shared a joint with his hard-working, middle-class parents. "But I had an amazing, fantastic connection with my dad, and it was a good experience for all of us. They showed me how to take the seeds and stems out of the pot. Then, basically, we ate.

My mom ordered sushi, and we made a mountain of nachos. It kind of felt like a rite of passage."

After his family initiation, Tom bought six or seven joints of his own for a camping trip, "and that was cool too." But his new girlfriend didn't approve of pot, or him on it. "She said there was this separation thing that happened whenever I smoked." So Tom gave it up, even though his older sister had just given him a nice handmade pipe for his birthday. "But my other sister could care less about pot. Lots of kids try it and don't like it. I think it's totally individual."

Nicole, who maintained a scholarship throughout university and has now graduated, grew up in a household where pot smoking was as casually present as wine with dinner. "Marijuana was so integrated into our social life that it didn't seem to make sense to hide it," says her father, a lawyer. "So we didn't. She began smoking pot when she was around 16. This was in the nineties, when the police were pretty aggressive about it, so we thought that it was safer for her to smoke at home than in the streets. And then when she was in college, there were definitely times when she and I would smoke a joint together. Or I might buy some dope and give her some."


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I guess it's easier to blame America for our "gun culture" aka American "gunslingers" being exported to Canada.


29 posted on 11/11/2005 1:14:58 PM PST by kcvl
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To: eskimo

"Yes, but they do not work "

I find it unbelieveable that criminals would break the law!


30 posted on 11/11/2005 1:15:09 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: jlasoon

Canada should pass a gun control law or two. That oughtta nip this right in the bud.


31 posted on 11/11/2005 1:16:09 PM PST by dinodino
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To: jlasoon

This has nothing to do with America. If you make the population impotent the wolves take advantage of it. That's why gun control never works, it's why we can't "all just get along", and why the world will never "live in peace and harmony". What, did they think there weren't any hooligans in Canada? Stupid bastards.


32 posted on 11/11/2005 1:16:43 PM PST by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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To: BadAndy
"I blame Canada for exporting socialism and leftism South"

Hey aren't you being a little harsh here? After all they're only blaming us for guns.

33 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:11 PM PST by marlon
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To: jlasoon

The article says it all."This is a pacifist society"!Human nature shows us the strong prey on the weak.Solution:do as we do,arm yourselves!


34 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:34 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: xcamel

Or to put it another way: "Those that beat their guns into plowshares will plow for those that don't."


35 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:42 PM PST by steel_resolve
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Canada pretty muchs just sucks, and their money looks funny and is a hugh annoyance.


36 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:17 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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Yep. Our mayor blames the US because otherwise he'd have to admit that our socialist policies were to blame.


37 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:21 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: cripplecreek

Indiana cares even less.


38 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:27 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: BadAndy

I blame them for spelling neighbor with a "u"....


39 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:28 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: jlasoon


Canada's Maclean's magazine obviously has an agenda. I wonder why AFP didn't report that?! /sarcasm




TORONTO - A majority of Canadians hope President Bush loses the upcoming election and do not really care who beats him, according to a magazine poll that hit newsstands Wednesday.

In an article entitled "Canadians to Bush: Hope you lose, eh," Maclean's magazine said a national survey found only 15 percent of Canadians would definitely vote for Bush if given the opportunity.


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Did you buy a copy of Maclean's magazine last year?

That was a trick question. Actually, the federal government bought a piece of one for you -- at least, that's one way of looking at the $1.4-million subsidy the feds gave the national news weekly last year.

The grant to Maclean's was the largest disbursement from the first year's operation of the Canadian Magazine Fund, described by the Department of Canadian Heritage as "a key element of the government's comprehensive policy in support of the Canadian magazine industry."

The magazine industry's dire need for support stems from a long-standing dispute with the United States over tax laws that protect Canadian titles from foreign-owned competition. The southern menace takes the form of "split-run" titles, whereby a popular magazine like People could put out a Canadian edition by adding a picture of Sacha Trudeau and selling to Canadian advertisers. Given the relatively small costs a People split-run would have, it would be a nice money-maker, all the while sucking away Canadian advertising dollars from worthy Canadian publishers. But Canadian tax laws prevent this by denying advertisers the right to deduct the cost of advertising in non-Canadian titles.


40 posted on 11/11/2005 1:18:52 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Delta 21
Canada pretty muchs just sucks, and their money looks funny and is a hugh annoyance.

You should try living here, I'm surrounded by commies these days.

41 posted on 11/11/2005 1:19:19 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: jlasoon; ARridgerunner
blame their neighbour, the United States

Of course it has nothing to do with the fact
that Canada imported thousands of criminals
from Trinidad and Jamaica
many of whom were loaded onto planes
without documentation or passports
and were permitted to stay in the country.

42 posted on 11/11/2005 1:19:25 PM PST by Allan
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To: FormerACLUmember

Canada just wasted billions harassing all its honest citizenry gun owners. You mean criminals aren't following these totalitarian laws?



No, you see, that system would have worked perfectly to eliminate crime, if only the US had not provided all the guns to undermine their effort.

Similarly, Washington DC would be a crime-free haven if not for the flood of guns from nearby Virginia.


43 posted on 11/11/2005 1:20:19 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: kcvl

Maybe Canada needs to take a look at the kind of immigrants they are allowing into their country. Are these people getting a good education and fitting into Canadian culture? Or is Canada importing its own crime wave? Seems to me they ought to be looking at themselves instead of always blaming the USA.


44 posted on 11/11/2005 1:21:12 PM PST by kjo
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To: libstripper

Depopulated, yes. Bullet pocked, yes. Those bullets are just well aimed at the prodigious quantities of wild-life. There ain't no humans to hit!

(And we never aim them at one another, unlike Washington, D.C.)


45 posted on 11/11/2005 1:21:48 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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To: trashcanbred

Nice rig, what IS that ?


46 posted on 11/11/2005 1:22:26 PM PST by AmericanDave (God bless .......and MORE COWBELL)
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To: kjo

CONTACT US

Head Office :

Maclean's Magazine
One Mount Pleasant Road
11th floor
Toronto, ON
M4Y 2Y5
Canada


Tel:
1-800-268-9119
or 416-764-1300

Fax:
416-764-1332


E-mail:
letters@macleans.ca


47 posted on 11/11/2005 1:23:43 PM PST by kcvl
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To: VRWCmember

/grins

48 posted on 11/11/2005 1:23:58 PM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Come on down here! We can get you a new screen name too!


49 posted on 11/11/2005 1:25:45 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Beelzebubba

"Similarly, Washington DC would be a crime-free haven if not for the flood of guns from nearby Virginia."

Well, I guess if all the lib denziens of occupied Virginia got together and concentrated really, really hard, they could wish away the guns coming in from "redneck" Southside.


50 posted on 11/11/2005 1:25:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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