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IMPEACHMENT: hear clinton lose it
C-SPAN, Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror, AP | 11.11.05 | Mia T

Posted on 11/11/2005 2:30:04 PM PST by Mia T

I M P E A C H M E N T
h e a r --c l i n t o n --l o s e --i t


by Mia T, 11.11.05


 

MIDDLING

Twenty presidents rank higher than bill clinton and 20 rank lower. But this placement assumes equal weight for each of the presidential dimensions. And therein lies the flaw.

If 9/11 taught us anything, it is that presidential character and moral authority count, and count most.4 If the variables are properly weighted, bill clinton will always come out dead last.

That is, unless Americans are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.5

AFTERWORD

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency. Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the accord and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

Historian massages clinton numbers, ego + legacy at revisionist confab
click on "loser," (clinton's middle finger)
Mia T, 11.10.05


Upstaged, clinton Recycles Tired Canard, Tries New Revisionist Tack

by Mia T, 11-03-03

Biography lends to death a new terror.--Oscar Wilde 

 

 

Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson posthumously misappropriated...

Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

 

 

Yesterday, Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Today, the clintons are arrogating his soul. Hardly surprising. In 1999, the clintons were not at all shy about seizing his still-warm senate seat.

One has merely to recall the Jefferson double-helix hoax to understand that posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation….

Standard-Issue clintonism

If misappropriation of Jefferson's alleles hinged on a broken line of descent, misappropriation of Moynihan's endorsement depends on a broken line of dissent. Like Sally Hemmings' progeny, Moynihan's later acquiescence is of dubious lineage

Mia T, Moynihan Myths


 



hat is surprising about the clinton-Dole C-SPAN pas de deux is not that clinton demagoguery had gotten so old. What is surprising is that the tautological, specious, gasbag sort of banality that had always been the hallmark of clintonspeak was ever considered interesting or credible in the first place.

The 60-minute C-SPAN reprise of the 60-second 60 Minutes clinton-Dole flop confirmed what the 60 Minutes separate-stages format had plainly suggested: that bill clinton would be wise never to share the stage with Bob Dole.

Bob Dole displayed an easy wit; clinton served up faux-folksy bromides laced with underlying rage with stale carnard-cum-corollary for good measure.

The canard: If a crook doesn't make a profit, then it's not a crime.

The corollary: The government should pursue a crook if, and only if, the crook's take exceeds the government's cost to nail him.

hillary talks: ON CLINTON "FINANCES"

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)

Casuistry in the service of clinton revisionism....

Posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation. While downward revision ("defining deviancy down") is the classic clinton m.o., (see Jefferson double-helix hoax), clinton, exposed, is now arguing the obverse; the double negative offers the illusion of a higher ground.

If the purpose of the canard and corollary is to nullify Whitewater, the purpose of the claim that Ulysses S. Grant was unfairly maligned is to point the clinton hagiographers in the direction of the nonjudgmental... and the non sequitur.

That is, if Grant was unfairly maligned as a drunk, then, according to clinton deconstructionist logic, it follows that clinton was unfairly maligned as a rapist, traitor, perjurer, suborner of perjury, cheat, obstructor of justice, abuser of power, psychopath, corruptor of children, murderer, incompetent, utter failure, proximate cause of 911... take your choice.

HILLARY FLUNKS D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" seeks less competitive venue
Mia T, 6.18.05

Historian massages clinton numbers, ego + legacy at revisionist confab

C-SPAN historians find no clinton "greatness" irrespective of moral-authority deficit

 


by Mia T, 11.10.05



Speaking on the opening day of a three-day conference at Hofstra University examining his presidency, Clinton challenged a statement by noted historian Douglas Brinkley, who opined that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment.

Bill Clinton, at Long Island conference, calls impeachment `egregious abuse' of Constitution
FRANK ELTMAN
Associated Press Writer





clinton's ranking will likely get worse over time. Economic issues fade in importance over time. Moral issues presist and grow. (paraphrase)

Douglas Brinkley
(discussing C-SPAN PRESIDENTS POLL)
Washington Journal



 




PRESIDENTIAL FAILURE, 9/11 + KATRINA
by Mia T, 9.26.05

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)
thanx to jla and Wolverine for the audio

 






-SPAN
asked noted presidential historians to rank the American presidents1 along the following ten dimensions: public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, vision/setting an agenda, pursued equal justice for all, and performance within context of times.

bill clinton emerged as middling in most dimensions; he was surpassed in others by a settled mediocrity (Carter) and a putative failure (Nixon). In moral authority, bill clinton was rated dead last.2 He did fairly well in public persuasion, not a surprising finding given the volume of snake oil he managed to peddle during his presidency.

"It's the economy, stupid!"

Clinton's best scores were on the economic management and pursued equal justice for all dimensions. However, both of these results are meaningful only insofar as they redound to the moral authority dimension: they are wholly based on clinton fraudulence, cooked books and black poses, respectively; and clinton's shameless Rosa Parks eulogy last week assured us that the insidious brand of clinton racism is alive and well during these tiptoe years of the clinton interregnum.

Note that although Brinkley doesn't place much importance on the economic management dimension--he argues that the economy variable is not durable over time--he fails to recognize that the evaluation of the clinton economy by the historians is erroneous to begin with.

Note also that contrary to Douglas Brinkley's claim, made at the clinton revisionist confab3, C-SPAN historians found no evidence of clinton "greatness" irrespective of his moral-authority deficit.

MIDDLING

Twenty presidents rank higher than bill clinton and 20 rank lower. But this placement assumes equal weight for each of the presidential dimensions. And therein lies the flaw.

If 9/11 taught us anything, it is that presidential character and moral authority count, and count most.4 If the variables are properly weighted, bill clinton will always come out dead last.

That is, unless Americans are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.5

deconstructing clinton… "just because I could"



(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)
FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME! 

 

AFTERWORD

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency. Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the accord and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

WASHINGTON -- Two Norwegian public-relations executives and one member of the Norwegian Parliament say they were contacted by the White House to help campaign for President Clinton to receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize for his work in trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

Clinton Lobbies for Nobel Prize: What a Punk
White House Lobbied For Clinton Nobel Peace Prize Updated
Friday, October 13, 2000
By Rita Cosby

 

 

 

There's been speculation in the last few months that Clinton was pursuing a Mideast peace accord in an effort to win the prize and secure his legacy as president.

AIDES PUSH CLINTON FOR THE NOBEL

 

 

 

At the time, clinton observed: "I made more progress in the Middle East than I did between Socks and Buddy." Retrospectively, it is clear that clinton's characterization was not correct.

Mia T, Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers

 





1.



American Presidents


A Site to Complement C-SPAN's 20th Anniversary Television Series, American Presidents: Life Portraits
March-December 1999

C-SPAN Survey
of Presidential Leadership

Bill Clinton
Historian Survey Results

Categories

Final Score 
 Category Ranking

Public Persuasion

70.3
11

Crisis Leadership

50.5
20

Economic Management

74.0
5

Moral Authority

19.5
41

International Relations

54.3
21

Administrative Skills

56.1
21

Relations with Congress

38.2
36

Vision / Setting an Agenda

48.1
22

Pursued Equal Justice For All

76.7
5

Performance Within Context of Times

51.2
21


TOTAL SCORE

539

OVERALL RANK

21

      Historian Results




2.



American Presidents


A Site to Complement C-SPAN's 20th Anniversary Television Series, American Presidents: Life Portraits
March-December 1999
C-SPAN Survey
of Presidential Leadership

Historian Survey Results Category:
Moral Authority
Historian Results

President's Name

Final Score 
 Category Ranking
 Overall Ranking

1. George Washington

98.1
1
3

2. Abraham Lincoln

95.6
2
1

3. Theodore Roosevelt

86.9
3
4

4. Franklin Delano Roosevelt

86.0
4
2

5. Dwight D. Eisenhower

82.1
5
9

6. Woodrow Wilson

82.0
6
6

7. Harry S. Truman

74.5
7
5

8. Thomas Jefferson

74.0
8
7

9. John Adams

72.2
9
16

10. Jimmy Carter

71.2
10
22

11. Ronald Reagan

70.0
11
11

12. John Quincy Adams

69.4
12
19

13. James Madison

67.6
13
18

14. Andrew Jackson

64.4
14
13

15. John F. Kennedy

64.1
15
8

16. William McKinley

63.8
16
15

17. James Monroe

62.3
17
14

18. Groover Cleveland

61.0
18
17

19. George Bush

59.8
19
20

20. James K. Polk

57.6
20
12

21. Gerald Ford

57.0
21
23

22. William Howard Taft

56.9
22
24

23. Calvin Coolidge

55.3
23
27

24. Herbert Hoover

55.0
24
34

25. James Garfield

52.3
25
29

26. Rutherford B. Hayes

51.5
26
26

27. Zachary Taylor

51.2
27
28

28. Lyndon Baines Johnson

49.8
28
10

29. Martin Van Buren

44.6
29
30

30. Benjamin Harrison

44.1
30
31

31. Ulysses S. Grant

43.6
31
33

32. Millard Fillmore

38.9
32
35

33. Chester Arthur

38.9
33
32

34. William Henry Harrison

38.2
34
37

35. John Tyler

37.7
35
36

36. Franklin Pierce

31.0
36
39

37. Andrew Johnson

27.5
37
40

38. James Buchanan

27.1
38
41

39. Warren G. Harding

22.6
39
38

40. Richard Nixon

20.4
40
25

41. Bill Clinton

19.5
41
21


 

3.

Bill Clinton, at Long Island conference, calls impeachment `egregious abuse' of Constitution

 

FRANK ELTMAN
Associated Press Writer



November 10, 2005, 7:29 PM EST








HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- Former President Clinton said Thursday that his impeachment was "an egregious abuse of the Constitution" and asked if history judges him poorly because of his White House tryst with Monica Lewinsky, "How many other presidents do you have to downgrade?"

Speaking on the opening day of a three-day conference at Hofstra University examining his presidency, Clinton challenged a statement by noted historian Douglas Brinkley, who opined that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment.

"I completely disagree with that," Clinton said. "You can agree with that statement, but only if you think impeachment was justified. Otherwise, it was an egregious abuse of the Constitution and law and history of our country."

Clinton, who was acquitted by the Senate of perjury and obstruction of justice at his 1999 impeachment trial, contended that the impeachment was not about what he called his "misconduct."

"Now if you want to hold it against me that I did something wrong, that's a fair deal," he said. "If you do that, then you have a whole lot of other questions, which is how many other presidents do you have to downgrade and what are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

His remarks were cheered loudly by the audience.

In a speech that lasted more than an hour, Clinton touched on many of what he called the achievements of his eight-year presidency, citing everything from Middle East peace initiatives to turning around the U.S. economy.

Among his Democratic administration's failures, he said, were its slowness to act to stop genocide in Rwanda and the decision to allow FBI agents to raid a cult leader's compound in Waco, Texas. Nearly 80 cult followers died in a fire during the 1993 confrontation.

"We should have waited them out," Clinton said.

Former cabinet members, White House staffers and academicians converged at Hofstra for the conference, which will touch on issues including the economy, relations with Congress, the Middle East and Northern Ireland peace processes and confronting terrorism.

Those participating include former Attorney General Janet Reno, ex-Defense Secretary William Perry, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and advisers Paul Begala, David Gergen and Harold Ickes.

During an opening keynote speech, former chief of staff Leon Panetta quipped that he appreciated "the opportunity to, considering the problems that are confronting this White House, to take some comfort in the ability to say when we were in the White House those were the good old days."

The presidential conference is the 11th to be held at Hofstra; the first was held in 1982 and examined the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Hofstra President Stuart Rabinowitz said this year's conference was "one of the very first attempts to write the historical record of the Clinton presidency."

Brinkley, who is serving as a moderator at several events, said the transcripts and other records from the Hofstra sessions are considered important reference materials for students of history across the country.

Madeleine Albright, Clinton's secretary of state from 1997 to 2001, introduced him Thursday evening. In remarks earlier Thursday, she recalled some of the administration's foreign policy efforts during her term.

"I have always believed America is an exceptional country. But that is because we have led in creating standards that work for everyone, not because we are an exception to the rules," she said. "Countries should know that America is a nation whose leaders can be trusted and who will practice what they preach. By that high standard, I am proud of the Clinton administration's record."


4.

WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

by Mia T, 8.18.05


(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)
thanx to jla and Wolverine for the audio


DISCUSSION

"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer



5.

MAD hillary series #4
NANO-PRESIDENT
the danger of the unrelenting smallness
of bill + hillary clinton



(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)






WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?



BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
(see descriptor morphs)


Why hillary clinton should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office... or any position of power
REASON 1: SHE HIRED JAMIE GORELICK


sandy berger haberdashery feint
(the specs, not the pants or the socks)


THE LEFT'S RECKLESS TET-OFFENSIVE-GAMBIT REPLAY:
the left's jihad against America is killing our troops, aiding + abetting the terrorists and imperiling all Americans


pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic
WHY THE LEFT IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA


The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality
(Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President)


the clinton-clinton-Broaddrick kind of rape, according to Susan Estrich


ESTRICH IMPEACHED BY HER OWN WORDS,
EXPOSES STOCK HILLARY PLOY: EXPLOIT WOMEN
my amazon.com review


STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: ED KLEIN AND SUSAN ESTRICH AGREE ABOUT HILLARY


PRESIDENTIAL FAILURE, 9/11 + KATRINA


CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS:
Justice Undone in the clinton White House


NANO-PRESIDENT
the danger of the unrelenting smallness of bill + hillary clinton


HIROSHIMA'S NUCLEAR LESSON
bill clinton is no Harry Truman


CLINTON RAPES, REVISIONISM, USEFUL IDIOTS AND ENTROPY (an update)


JENNINGS DOES A DIMBLEBY: clinton legacy-RAGE redux


1st Feminist Prez Impeached
(clinton, pushed by the "smartest woman in the world," managed to impeach himself)


THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update


TALL-TALE TWEAK:
In honor of Rosa Parks, 'burning church' becomes 'bus' for 'first black president'
(clip included)

For the children?
the clintons ARE pornography downloads


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005

 



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1 posted on 11/11/2005 2:30:11 PM PST by Mia T
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Mia

I always enjoy your artwork!


2 posted on 11/11/2005 2:32:01 PM PST by Lexinom
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3 posted on 11/11/2005 2:34:35 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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4 posted on 11/11/2005 2:34:43 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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What a doofus b!tch he is. He will go to his grave without a clue.


5 posted on 11/11/2005 2:39:13 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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One of your absolute BEST; Mia!


6 posted on 11/11/2005 2:41:12 PM PST by nopardons
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7 posted on 11/11/2005 2:45:49 PM PST by stickandpucknut
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To: Lexinom

thank you :)


8 posted on 11/11/2005 2:51:23 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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thanx. :)


9 posted on 11/11/2005 2:52:21 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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10 posted on 11/11/2005 2:53:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Really intriguing work. Thanks.


11 posted on 11/11/2005 2:59:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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Excellent work, and I'll pass it on.


12 posted on 11/11/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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13 posted on 11/11/2005 3:08:17 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: backhoe

appreciate it. thx. :)


14 posted on 11/11/2005 3:08:41 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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Bttt.

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15 posted on 11/11/2005 3:10:15 PM PST by M Kehoe
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Perfect, as always...!


16 posted on 11/11/2005 3:11:43 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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17 posted on 11/11/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: Wolverine

thx. :)


18 posted on 11/11/2005 3:17:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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I love how all of Clinton's henchmen and henchwomen were all endicted/convicted because "they wouldn't lie".

Which, logically would mean, since they told the truth, then the case against them was airtight.

Without the willing lapdogs in the press, Clinton would have been thrown out of office...I am sure of that. Why Bush II keeps sending this guy on official business- he's on a trip to the ME with Condi Rice right now- I'll never know. Why is W trying to save Clinton's Legacy?


19 posted on 11/11/2005 3:20:05 PM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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Oh....MY....LORD!

I'd heard about this and you, but this is the first time I have seen or heard it. It's even more than I was given to believe.

Thank you so much for your work, it's fantastic!

Is it available for purchase or download in a distributable?

:O)

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20 posted on 11/11/2005 3:29:34 PM PST by papasmurf (How can I be guilty of lying about a non-crime???)
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To: Mia T

How did Carter get ranked at 10th best president ahead of Ronald Reagan???


21 posted on 11/11/2005 3:31:38 PM PST by Kirkwood
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"We should have waited them out," Clinton said.

Nope. Should have hit the compound the first day. Appeasement DOES NOT WORK you f--ing moron.

Thank you... I'm feeling better now. Thanks for the thread.

22 posted on 11/11/2005 3:52:34 PM PST by Toadman
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To: Mia T
The C-SPAN Survey of Presidential Leadership becomes totally bogus with the placement of "Jimma" at #10. Presidential "Historians" are as corrupt and biased as the next guy and not afraid to lift a line or two from another scholar. How about Doris Kearns Goodwin?
23 posted on 11/11/2005 4:05:59 PM PST by joem15
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To: Kirkwood; joem15

The #10 Carter ranking is for the dimension, "MORAL AUTHORITY." It's the dimension for which clinton comes in dead last, lower than Nixon--poetic justice given missus clinton's role in the Nixon impeachment.

Carter's seemingly fixed pietistic pose likely accounts for his #10 ranking for moral authority. In overall ranking, Carter is the rapist's neighbor. He's 22. clinton's 21. (I wonder which utter failure is more insulted.)


24 posted on 11/11/2005 4:41:48 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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Bill Clinton, at Long Island conference, calls impeachment `egregious abuse' of Constitution

What was a true "egregious abuse of the Constitution", Mia T, were the antics of that anti-American RAT-like traitor Arlen Sphincter and most of the U.S. Senators who refused to serve justice upon Scumbag at the impeachment trial.

25 posted on 11/11/2005 4:45:52 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Kirkwood

The #10 was for "Moral Authority" Carter was #22 overall...still way too high.


26 posted on 11/11/2005 4:45:59 PM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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To: jla

ping


27 posted on 11/11/2005 5:22:38 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: beyond the sea

ping


28 posted on 11/11/2005 5:23:22 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: yoe

ping


29 posted on 11/11/2005 5:23:51 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Brian Allen

ping


30 posted on 11/11/2005 5:24:21 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Bump to another great Mia T FR page...


31 posted on 11/11/2005 5:26:22 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: NormsRevenge



This is the usual clinton rube arrogance rooted in stupidity (of which this interview tonight is but another example).

The clintons figured that Estrich in their corner would make clinton serial rape and predation just disappear, not understanding that her presence would only intensify the scrutiny and that her 'expertise' and prior utterances would be used against them... and her.

Indeed, by twisting her own scholarship, Estrich indicts the clintons just as surely as the twisting double helix on that blue Gap dress.

Mia T, 10.27.05
THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY:
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy


32 posted on 11/11/2005 5:46:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: LowOiL

thanx :)


33 posted on 11/11/2005 5:47:17 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: papasmurf

Thank you. :)

I've had requests for cds, dvds, etc. Distributables are a great idea, but for the costs involved....


34 posted on 11/11/2005 6:20:34 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Great info, thanks.

How does one ever begin to convince a clintonista the errors in their love for the guy?

I run into them still.....it's so digusting.

I ask the question to you, but I dont expect a cure.....


35 posted on 11/11/2005 6:21:08 PM PST by texianyankee
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To: texianyankee

I've flipped a few clintonoids. I typically zero in on the clintons' rape and predation, the clintons' utter failure to confront terrorism and the clintons' easy betrayal of America.

Don't let the collective insanity of the Senate mislead you. The Juanita Broaddrick interview is usually sufficient. No normal person would hire a rapist to cut his grass or clean his house much less run his country.

THE LIEBERMAN PARADIGM:
clinton is an unfit president
therefore clinton must remain president
THE SHAYS SYNDROME:
clinton is a rapist;
therefore clinton is a fit president

Well, with the help of the 100 corrupt and cowardly cullions, clinton walked. The senators' justification for their acquittal votes requires the suspension of rational thought (and, in the curious case of Arlen Specter, national jurisdiction).

Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted


Jeanine Pirro ought to get serious. Helping abused women and nailing predators is her area of expertise.
 

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36 posted on 11/11/2005 7:05:03 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

The Clinton's have no saving graces.


37 posted on 11/11/2005 7:08:25 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: Mia T
There aren't too many of us that would balk at paying between 25-50 for a set of cd's of what you have done.

Distributable, i.e. an .exe file, shouldn't be too hard, are easily created and duplicated, and can be downloaded. They would be less expensive to make and to retail.

I volunteer to be your first customer!

:O)

P
38 posted on 11/11/2005 9:08:43 PM PST by papasmurf (How can I be guilty of lying about a non-crime???)
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To: Mia T

bump


39 posted on 11/12/2005 3:23:37 AM PST by jla
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To: papasmurf

thanx. :)

I can see a place for both downloadable files and cds/dvds. I work exclusively on Macs. The .exe file is Windows executable. Of course, whatever I would provide would be mac and windows compatible.

The rationale is to be able to efficiently and effectively disseminate--and to the target subgroup-- information that will be an automatic disqualifier for clinton.

clinton must get the white women's vote if she is to have any chance of winning. We must zero in on informing that demographic. We must tell them about the clintons' 30-year history of rape and predation, the clintons' 8-year WILLFUL utter failure to fight terrorism, the clintons' reflexive betrayal of America. If that demographic is fully informed, there is no way the clintons can retake the white house.


40 posted on 11/12/2005 4:52:17 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

I'll get back to you on this later...


41 posted on 11/12/2005 6:31:37 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Mia T
ya don't want to go there, ya want to know why ya don't want to go there--

-----70 million dollars on whitewater -- which was a land deal that I lost money on-

I thought the 'land deal' was hillary's deal. Whitewater was a scheme drawn up by hillary and her women cronies, using borrowed money lent to 'women owned businesses' only. So now I hear it was his deal - was billy ever questioned on this, I don't think so.

Talk about a bodyguard of lies. Yes, I made a mistake and I'm paying for it. Wonder if he ever thinks of the young girl who was just a few years older than his own daughter - how she is paying for it. Poor bill!!!!!

And the Democratic Party stick by the clintons like glue!

42 posted on 11/12/2005 10:23:03 AM PST by malia (Marc Rich surfaces again -- this time in the Oil For Food Scandal)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; mia
Yes, I can see the need to address the points/issues that most of the targeted voters will have a positive response to.
The one most helpful piece of info I've used, is the one that used a tit-for-tat method. That is,
Clinton said:blah, blah.
But then he said: Blah, blah.
Clinton promised: blah, blah.
But then he ordered, signed, did, etc.

The speeches he and his cronies made this last week are disgusting. I mean, here we are, with Libby being indicted for lying about a crime that never happened, and there's Clinton whining that his charges and impeachment were "egregious", blown out of proportion, and unconstitutional. The masses buy this crap, hook, line, and sinker!
Please explain to me, why women haven't gone after him with a nut-knife! This guy perjured himself to the point where he denied a woman her right to due process, a civil right! Many women have accused him of sexual harassment and downright rape. I don't get it? Compare that to an alleged pubic hair on a coke can...and hitlary stands by him, defends him, and lies for him.
I got off point, sorry.

:O)

P
43 posted on 11/12/2005 10:59:15 AM PST by papasmurf (Support Delay, support Libby, donate today.)
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To: Mia T

ping.


44 posted on 11/12/2005 11:00:04 AM PST by papasmurf (Support Delay, support Libby, donate today.)
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To: papasmurf; WorkingClassFilth
I suppose we will have to settle for virtual castration. For now, anyway.
Incidentally,
she requires it as much as he, perhaps even more so.

On Neutered and Neutering
 
by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)
 
With all the neutered talk of late
I thought y'all would appreciate
a relevant Shakespearean conversation
with EZ, a clinton chronicler Elizabethan.
 
[I had just asked the playwright if he had writer's block.]
 
 
EZ:
Think that thy bard hath now MacJeff forsaken?
In that would'st thou be verily mistaken.
Mayhap thou hast impatiently forgot
That facts comprise the essence of the plot.
 
 
MIA T:
Methinks thy bard hath schemes forsaken.
Mayhap thou art verily mistaken.
Plots comprise the essence of the facts.
Forsake the contrariwise artifacts.
 
 
EZ:
Gadzooks, could'st be thy bard is put to rout?
'Twould seem his veriest words are turned about.
Could'st show whereby effect doth flow from cause,
Would'st then be due a round of brisk applause.
 
Perhaps I could this point of view adopt,
For was not Bill by Hillary thus bopped
In like wise as MacJeff, upon the head,
And with a lamp, just as thy bard hath said?
 
Thus are the facts revealed for all to see:
Thy bard did make good use of ESP.
Contrariwise, the White House read my serial,
And sought to make good use of the material.
 
 
MIA T:
Thy bard's "effect doth flow from cause" linearity
And 'twould seem thy veriest good use of oracularity
'Twere not the nature of the plots I pricked thy bard to adopt
Withal Bill, like wise as MacJeff, upon the head was bopped.
 
Methought the plots thou would'st use sprung not o' telepathy.
Didst thou never hear the most traitorously corrupted conspiracy?
Brutus's heart wrapp'd in Hillaryous hide.
Interns and China suckling the impotent fool Cheapside.
 
What more paying play than a corrupted plot untainted
With thrice times two naked villains feinted?
Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.
 
 
EZ:
A point well made, experience vicarious
Was grounded in events utmost Hillaryous.
Betruth, the president sustained concussion
Ere I had even started the discussion.
 
But, lest thy bard be seen to make retreat,
The second bop was truly a repeat.
In consequence, I need no psychic hotline
To reconstruct an oft repeated plotline.
 
Now, as regards the wretched Cheapside brat,
And turmoil his concupiscence begat,
Need'st have no fear regards unfolding strife
O'er these events, for Art must copy Life.
 
 
MIA T:
Eureka! (Not Gadzooks!)
Though I have neither wit, nor words, nor playbooks
Thy bard this simpleminded poster avoidth plagiarize.
(Withal thy bard's own baseborn tendency contrariwise.)
 
Now, as regards the wretched Cheapside brat,
And turmoil his concupiscence begat,
Methinks MacJeff's crook'd feelpolitik, the lasix death, his solipsistic sex
Thou must put in cold blood'd cardiovascular context.
 
The brain deviseth laws for the blood,
but the brain 'tself is ne'er understood.
The King's crook'dness flows from limp circulation.
Methinks the solution is swift amputation.
 
 
EZ:
Thou place thy versifier in a quandary,
Redoubling thy most sharp-edged entendre.
The gist of they intent can I but gape on.
Dost thou propose the prez be made a capon?
 
In blood caught up these wretches play their role,
But this must not become Le Grand Guignol.
Lest those of delicate mien be made to faint,
'Twere better I should exercise restraint.
 
Mind you, Act I, scene 4 drips the odd bit of gore here and there.
 
 
MIA T:
Thy bard's excessive predilection metaphorical
confuseth redoubled sharp-edged entendre with one blunt oracle.
 
Forsooth, thy bard surely knowth,
Phallus on eunuch can't growth.
Plucking capon from hen's an impossibility,
Unless the cluck's hermaphroditic Hillary.


The fundamental clinton rape issue isn't whether hillary 'believed bill,' or 'enabled bill'.
The fundamental clinton rape issue is that hillary participated.

While Sean Hannity correctly zeroed in on the clinton rape of Juanita Broaddrick, one of the issues that should automatically disqualify missus clinton for any position of power, he sabotaged his own line of attack.

Hannity's setup question, whether hillary 'believed' bill, was a dodge. And a not very artful dodge. As Sean Hannity knows well, the issue isn't whether hillary 'believed bill'; the issue is that hillary participated. In that rape as well as in all the other clinton rapes and predations.

There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

GEORGE WILL, SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL


[FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!]

 

HILLARY CLINTON: 30-year career abusing women


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Hannity of all people should know this. He interviewed Broaddrick on precisely that point. (A video and analysis of that interview is in the works.)

Broaddrick described to him in shocking detail the meeting with hillary clinton that occurred several weeks after the rape. missus clinton went to that meeting for the express purpose of warning Broaddrick to keep her mouth shut. (She and the rapist entered the room, she approached Broaddrick (whom she had never met before) while a slinking rapist stayed behind, she proceeded to warn Broaddrick, she and the rapist immediately left.)

In Hannity's original Estrich-Broaddrick interview, he was honest about the real issue. But even then he ultimately failed because he neglected to expose the following clinton casuistry being spun by Estrich:

  1. the 'statute of limitation' on rape should apply to the clintons in the Broaddrick rape,
  2. the postmodern construction of 'rape,' i.e., the definition of rape is subjective, i.e., what is considered rape by the victim isn't necessarily considered rape by the rapist,
  3. the definition of rape has morphed over time, i.e., what is rape today wasn't necessarily rape in the '70s.

 

On point 1, the statute of limitation on rape applies in a court of law, not in the voting booth. The question we are deciding isn't whether the clintons should be thrown in the slammer (another matter for another day); the question is less onerous, (from the clintons' perspective, anyway): Do the clintons have the character to be president?

The reductio ad absurdum is Christopher Shays' comment, made after he viewed the Ford building evidence on the rape of Broaddrick: "I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say it that way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

And yet Shays voted not to impeach. Purportedly because he asked the wrong question. ("Where was the obstruction of justice?") (Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton gave to Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...)

And so we had two more years of the clinton Nano-Presidency. And with it, inexorably, 9/11.

Regarding points two and three: Juanita's bitten lip, swollen to twice its normal size, the hallmark of a serial rapist, is the obvious counterexample.

Real Rape should be required reading... for Susan Estrich.

 

ADDENDUM:

Ignoring the facts of the case, ignoring the 'real rape' paradigm, indeed, ignoring her own writings on 'real rape,' Susan Estrich, on Hannity and Colmes, pimping for yet another rapist presidency, dismissed out of hand Juanita Broaddrick's credible charge, that she was raped by the clintons.

In response, Juanita Broaddrick has offered to meet with Susan Estrich to discuss the matter. Estrich turned her down flat. (SUSAN ESTRICH RESPONDS TO JUANITA BROADDRICK'S OFFER TO SPEAK ABOUT HER RAPE -- "not interested")

 

THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)
Mia T, 10.27.05


45 posted on 11/12/2005 12:56:51 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Very nice, Mia T. Always appreciate your posts!


46 posted on 11/12/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: malia
bump

It's hard to believe there aren't multiple coups in the works at the DNC.
The really smart money ain't on clinton.


"I still think Hillary will get in . . . she's unelectable but certainly nominatable."

Susan Estrich
Iowa Headliner Hillary Has Dems Fuming
NewsMax | 10/20/03 | Limbacher

"I'm one of the few in the semi-inner circle who [doesn't] think she can win" [the White House].

Harold Ickes
Time, January 2005

Sen. Hillary Clinton should not count on help from Hollywood mogul David Geffen in her possible run for the White House.

Geffen, who was a generous supporter and pal of Bill Clinton when he was president, trashed Hillary's prospects last night during a Q&A at the 92nd St. Y in New York City.

"She can't win, and she's an incredibly polarizing figure," the billionaire Democrat told his audience. "And ambition is just not a good enough reason."

Lloyd Grove reports in fresh editions of the NY DAILY NEWS the audience broke with "hearty applause" over Geffen's comments.

Developing...

GEFFEN UNLOADS ON HILLARY: 'SHE CAN'T WIN'
DRUDGE REPORT
Thu Feb 17 2005 23:13:00 ET


47 posted on 11/12/2005 3:16:04 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: WorkingClassFilth; All
 
 

I M P E A C H M E N T
h e a r --c l i n t o n --l o s e --i t



by Mia T, 11.11.05

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency.

Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

COMPLETE ARTICLE



"his astounding grasp of global affairs"

--BILL CLINTON, MESSIAH. Second Coming
New Republic | 9/27/05 | Michael Crowley

"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer

hillary's vaccine shortage, the avian flu, pandemic, terrorism, hillary clinton, bill clinton, bird flu

IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY
by Mia T, 11.14.05

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GIVEN:

  • hillary clinton is a "CONGENITAL LIAR",

  • the seditious Left caused America to telegraph our every intention to the UN for almost a year, engineering the ludicrous slow-mo, blow-by-blow buildup to war.

  • we now learn from none other than the seditious, (and obviously not too swift) classified-data disseminator and memogate schemer himself--Sen. Jay Rockefeller--that he gave our enemies in the Mideast a heads-up that we were going into Iraq...


And the Left doesn't think Saddam had more than sufficient time to ship his WMD and WMD components to Syria... or to some other asymmetric netherworld? Gimme a break....

The only conclusion we can make about WMD in Iraq is about what we did find and what we didn't find. The Left, which includes the press, either needs to take a course in logic or needs to face the firing squad.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED. It's as simple as that.

 

How can this country survive when the Democrats and their media accomplices are seditious, unrelenting purveyors of THE BIG LIE? And who do you think set this tactic into motion, anyway?


NOTE: Demonizing a putative liar-president is not the best way to set up the candidacy of the sickest liar of the pack.... Maybe the smart money is trying for an endrun around the incompetent witch....


NEW MOVIE! for the birds
(THE INCOMPETENCE OF HILLARY CLINTON)

by Mia T, 11.13.05

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ARTICLE

48 posted on 11/16/2005 8:45:11 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Wonderful stuff...on so many levels. I can't read most of it without becoming furious all over again. Two things makes me very happy about Clinton. The first is that the blue dress finally proved him to be a liar so all could it see. The second is the much deserved impeachement. My only regret is that he was not convicted and removed from office. In any case, his only legacy is Monica and impeachment. No matter how much this slime ball whines, he can never put humpty dumpty together again. And as noted, history will dim memory of the Internet bubble which alone accounted for the economic boom during his presidency and he had nothing to do with it. Thanks again Mia T. Great work.
49 posted on 11/19/2005 5:02:23 PM PST by Cautor
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To: Mia T

BTTT


50 posted on 11/19/2005 5:03:00 PM PST by Cautor
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