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Call for ban on 'bomb Ireland' extremist
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 11 November 2005 | Tom Brady, Helen Bruce & Shane Hickey

Posted on 11/11/2005 4:05:49 PM PST by Murtyo

There was outrage last night after an Islamic fundamentalist said Ireland was a "legitimate" target for a terrorist attack.

Lawyer Anjem Choudary, who is under police surveillance in Britain, made the comments shortly after arriving in Dublin for a debate in Trinity College.

His remarks are being studied by gardai with a view to possible prosecution for incitement to hatred.

Politicians called for him to be banned from public platforms in Ireland.

Choudary claimed Ireland was a legitimate target for a terror attack because of the Government's decision to allow US troops to refuel at Shannon Airport. "If you are going to allow your country to be used to refuel a US plane which is going on a bombing raid, what do you expect our reaction to be? This is not neutrality," he said.

"A US pilot is no different from the Irish person who allows the plane to land. They are collaborators."

And in a veiled threat, he warned: "It is better for the Muslim to tell you this reality so we can change this and to make sure what is taking place in other countries will not happen in Ireland."

Another Muslim extremist, Umran Javed, told the debate he did not personally see an attack on Ireland as likely.

But he warned retaliation would come "swiftly" if Ireland was to increase its support for the US.

Choudary's comments came just a day after at some 60 people were killed in a triple bomb attack in Jordan.

He spoke only hours after the head of Scotland Yard, London Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair, warned that Dublin is as much at risk of a major terrorist attack as other large cities.

A Government spokesman last night refused to comment on Choudary's inflammatory remarks, and said it was a "legal issue for the Department of Justice".

Justice Minister Michael McDowell is to await a Garda report on the debate before reacting to the comments.

Senior Garda officers will also study his remarks to determine if they represent an incitement to hatred.

Detectives from the Garda Special Branch's Middle Eastern Unit kept watch at Trinity College while Mr Choudary, Umram Javed and another Islamic fundamentalist, Abdul Rehman Saleem, aired their extremist views.

Opposition politicians last night expressed outrage at the decision to give Choudary a platform for his views, and said the Islamic fundamentalist may be guilty of breaching incitement to hatred laws.

Labour Justice spokesman Joe Costello described his comments as "dangerous and provocative".

"This is a form of incitement to hatred. It is highly irresponsible to state that Ireland is a legitimate target for attack, especially given what happened in Jordan yesterday," he told the Irish Independent.

"There is a serious question mark about somebody coming into this country and justifying an attack on this country."

Fine Gael's justice spokesman Jim O'Keeffe said no-one wanted to curb free speech, but added there was also a duty to uphold the laws banning incitement to hatred and advocating terrorist attacks.

"I think it is very immature of the Philosophical Society in Trinity to invite someone who wants to advocate violence."

A spokesman for Trinity College said there was never any question of banning Choudary as the university believed in free speech and encouraged the Philosophical Society to promote debate.

Choudary was speaking in favour of a motion that the September 11 attacks in the US in 2001 were justified.

Musleh Faradhi, president of the Islamic Forum of Europe, said: "Any terrorism act perpetrated by Muslims in condemnable. Whether it is in a Muslim land, America, London or Jordan, it goes against the teaching of Islam, the Koran and the teachings of the prophet.

"We condemn it without any condition.

"There is no justification whatever for these acts. That is the view of the main body of Muslims worldwide."

The controversy comes at time when British politics is torn by the Commons defeat of a key clause in British Prime Minister Tony Blair's anti-terror measures.

Mr Blair yesterday branded rebel Labour MPs as out of touch.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 11/11/2005 4:05:52 PM PST by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo
"If you are going to allow your country to be used to refuel a US plane which is going on a bombing raid, what do you expect our reaction to be? This is not neutrality," he said.

And where exactly does that fuel come from? I bet a good bit of it comes from ONE OF YOUR COUNTRIES buddy. So remove the thorn from your own eye. Better yet, just blow yourself up in a field somewhere.

2 posted on 11/11/2005 4:09:43 PM PST by Zeppelin (Stop Global Warming. Shut a Liberal's Mouth.)
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To: Murtyo

Well, the "main body of muslims worldwide" had better start doing something about it before none of them are welcome anywhere except the hellhole countries they came from.


3 posted on 11/11/2005 4:10:50 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Murtyo

Gee... How come Ward Churchill can get away with saying the same thing in our country?


4 posted on 11/11/2005 4:13:40 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Murtyo
I'm sure the Irish government is a pack of leftest weenies that if attached my Muslims would turn tale and run.

Maybe the IRA should think twice about disarming.
5 posted on 11/11/2005 4:18:11 PM PST by Blackirish (Jeez)
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To: trashcanbred

good point, even the leftie Irish politicos comdemned this 'British' lawyer.


6 posted on 11/11/2005 4:18:20 PM PST by Murtyo
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To: Emmett McCarthy

there have been some protests in Jordan in the last few days., but these protests seem to be the exception and only happen when muslims are targeted.


7 posted on 11/11/2005 4:20:43 PM PST by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

He is being honest, but what is frightening is that he says it, knowing nothing will probably happen to him.


8 posted on 11/11/2005 4:24:32 PM PST by crazycat
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To: Murtyo

Anjem Choudary

9 posted on 11/11/2005 4:24:37 PM PST by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

These people take themselves way too seriously.


10 posted on 11/11/2005 4:28:12 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Murtyo

Does anyone know how the people of Ireland feel about Americans in general and the Iraq war? I was on an Irish political website and from what I had read, the folks didn't look to kindly on Americans. My fear is that Ireland will blame the United States if they are indeed attacked.


11 posted on 11/11/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Murtyo

The Irish are so laid back, I doubt they will do anything about this guy.


12 posted on 11/11/2005 4:29:24 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Arpege92

Some Irish friends of mine were upset we invaded Iraq. However... given what has happened in Europe in the last year (Theo Van Gogh, France, etc...) they do not seem to blame the US for these problems. After all... France was against us and look what happened?


13 posted on 11/11/2005 4:36:48 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: trashcanbred

The FWENCH are now beginning to see the light IMHO. They are learning how dangerous Muslims can be and are concerned about the threats they continue to get. I've even read about some of the Fwench supporting the exile of Muslims who cause trouble. These riots are a bitter pill for them to swallow and it would do them a world of good if that pill lodged in their collective throats for a while making it difficult for them to forget the lessons from the riots.


14 posted on 11/11/2005 4:56:02 PM PST by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Murtyo
Just arrest him. Simple.
15 posted on 11/11/2005 6:51:54 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC

If these idiots keep running their mouths maybe the rest of the western world will get the idea and run every Muslim out.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 12:26:54 AM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ("I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you." Gen. 12:3 a warning to all anti-)
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To: Murtyo
What is it with these moose-limb idiots with their constant finger waving? No matter what western country they visit, I can assure them that there are MANY citizens of a less diplomatic variety who would break it off and stuff it where the sun don't shine in a heartbeat.

Nam Vet

17 posted on 11/12/2005 12:37:51 AM PST by Nam Vet (The Gaulistinians are rioting to reclaim the ancient 'holy ground' of Paris.)
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WASHINGTON TIMES.com (UPI): "ISLAMIST LAWYER: IRELAND COULD BE TARGETED" (November 11, 2005) (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "An Islamic fundamentalist lawyer has said Ireland is a "legitimate" target for a terrorist attack. Anjem Choudary, speaking at a debate Thursday at Dublin's Trinity College, claimed Ireland was open to attack because of the government's decision to allow U.S. troops to refuel at Shannon Airport, the Irish Independent reported Friday. "If you are going to allow your country to be used to refuel a U.S. plane which is going on a bombing raid, what do you expect our reaction to be? This is not neutrality," he said. "A U.S. pilot is no different from the Irish person who allows the plane to land. They are collaborators," said Choudary, who is under police surveillance in Britain.") (November 11, 2005)

18 posted on 11/12/2005 1:27:54 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Murtyo
Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace


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19 posted on 11/12/2005 1:33:10 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Always use fresh macaroni.... If the box rattles,.... throw it away."--- Kent Brockman)
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To: Murtyo; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...
Politicians called for him to be banned from public platforms in Ireland.

Let us do so with Sinn Fein/IRA first!

20 posted on 11/12/2005 4:03:46 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: All

He's apparently spent too much time on his Sunni PrayStation II.


21 posted on 11/12/2005 1:37:48 PM PST by USMCPOP
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To: Murtyo
Lawyer Anjem Choudary, who is under police surveillance in Britain, made the comments shortly after arriving in Dublin for a debate in Trinity College.

Anjem Choudary was a spokesman for the group Al-Muhajiroun in 2004.

22 posted on 03/08/2011 7:02:18 PM PST by piasa
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