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To: blam; Judith Anne
I think it might have been Judith Anne who first pointed out (on the Flu Preps thread) that Haldol (haloperidol) can be effectively used against cytokine storms. It, however, normally is used as a potent psychiatric drug and caution would be required in its use. A patient undergoing a cytokine storm might be deteriorating quickly and unable to take any oral drug. Therefore this would probably be a hospital/IM administration although JA suggested it would be worth a little research to see if a suppository form is available.

During an earlier stage of the flu, it might be worth taking a natural agent like curcumin that is known to possess the anti-cytokine activity. But curcumin must be taken along with piperine, or it is not absorbed adequately in the GI. There is at least one product on the market that combines the two. If you buy a curcumin extract make sure it carries a standardized percentage of curcumin in the 90s. Spice/tumeric has only a tiny bit of curcumin compared to the standardized extracts.

My own strategy is to boost the immune system before the influenza is contracted, to try to avoid it in the first place. Black Elderberry extract is a good way to do this.
But I would stop the immune boosters immediately if there is any chance the flu has gotten a foothold. The timing of this is going to be a tricky thing because some people in 1918 died the same day they became aware they were ill with the flu.

Someone mentioned resveratrol extract -- this is good also. Again, Pinot Noir products, although more fun, have only a small amount compared to the extract. Again there is concern that resveratrol in either form may not be absorbed properly, like curcumin.
38 posted on 11/11/2005 8:49:21 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: BearWash

Outstanding posts. Thanks--those are much appreciated.

People thinking of taking turmeric (curcumin) for it's excellent antiviral effects should remember that it stimulates bile production, and so could be dangerous for someone with gall stones. Turmeric is also a potent blood thinner. People taking coumadin should check with their doctors before using turmeric.

Cinnamon also has antiviral and antibiotic effects, but should not be used by anyone taking medication for diabetes, because cinnamon definitely lowers blood sugar. Taking cinnamon in 500 mg capsules could interact with the antidiabetic medication.

Honey and fresh garlic mixed can be taken to coat the throat and have a protective antiviral effect. I don't know of any side effects, unless you are diabetic, and then you should not take it.


41 posted on 11/11/2005 9:10:09 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: BearWash; blam

You do not want to boost your immune system for the H5N1. Don't take elderberry extract for this.


107 posted on 11/12/2005 8:35:06 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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