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WMDs Found in Iraq
Human Events ^ | Nov. 9, 2005 | Human Events

Posted on 11/12/2005 12:25:09 AM PST by FairOpinion

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To: WillamShakespeare
You are correct.


Iraq had also partially declared under it's own trustworthy admission. Stating the had X number WMD when later they stated they had more. But of course that amount was already destroyed. Trust them...
51 posted on 11/12/2005 1:43:20 AM PST by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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To: FairOpinion

BUMP


52 posted on 11/12/2005 1:51:24 AM PST by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: FairOpinion

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53 posted on 11/12/2005 1:53:36 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: FairOpinion

bookmark


54 posted on 11/12/2005 1:57:58 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: FairOpinion

That's a really good book -- I'm reading it now and learning a lot!


55 posted on 11/12/2005 1:58:06 AM PST by IrishRainy
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To: FairOpinion

Not mentioned in the article were the 500 tons of low-enriched uranium, purchased by Saddam from Niger, that we discovered at Tuwaitha following our invasion, nor did it mention the full set of bomb blueprints, along with critical centrifuge components, that Dr. Mahdi Obeidi was ordered to bury and hide in the garden of his Baghdad home? (The centrifuges were needed to turn the unranium into bomb-grade material.)


56 posted on 11/12/2005 2:40:26 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: MJY1288
Hey... Don't laugh... Mary Mapes has the documents to prove that While the moron, Frat Boy, Drunk, Cocaine abusing George W. Bush was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard, he orchestrated the transfer of these weapons to Iraq while everyone thought he was AWOL. Karl Rove set the whole deal up, and Scooter Libby leaked the AWOL story to undermine Mary Mapes :-)

Don't forget Halliburton, Karen Hughes and the twins. I'm sure Mapes and Rather could come up with the documents if we would just give them a little more time!
57 posted on 11/12/2005 3:05:02 AM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: hummingbird
I'm sure Mapes and Rather could come up with the documents if we would just give them a little more time!

Well coming up with false documents that are essentially true doesn't really take that long.

58 posted on 11/12/2005 3:13:17 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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If we keep posting this article enough times, folks are bound to read it!


59 posted on 11/12/2005 3:15:12 AM PST by Pro-Bush (Politics and crime...They are the same thing!)
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To: HitmanNY
Looks like a good book, too. Any particular recollections of Miniter? Studious? Coke-snorting, AWOL, Skull & Bones pal of W's?

I still don't understand how the left can paint the president as the most demonic, calculating, cabal-connected s.o.b. you ever met and then mock him for saying "nucular" and profess that he is so stupid that those antichrists Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld are running the show. AND THEY DON'T EVEN BAT AN EYELASH DOING IT!!!

Maybe they all took the brown acid....
60 posted on 11/12/2005 3:15:22 AM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: Pro-Bush
If we keep posting this article enough times, folks are bound to read it!

Okay, here's an "I'm in" BUMP!
61 posted on 11/12/2005 3:17:29 AM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: JoeGar

"Not mentioned in the article were the 500 tons of low-enriched uranium, purchased by Saddam from Niger, that we discovered at Tuwaitha following our invasion"

Once again, we did not 'discover' it, we already knew it was there. It had been catalogued and placed under seal by the IAEA in the 1990s. I don't believe it was all from Niger, although there were some purchases from there documented in the early 1980's.

"nor did it mention the full set of bomb blueprints, along with critical centrifuge components, that Dr. Mahdi Obeidi was ordered to bury and hide in the garden of his Baghdad home?(The centrifuges were needed to turn the unranium into bomb-grade material.)"

Also not really a discovery, in that Obeidi turned the documents over to the US in return for an entry visa. By Obeidi's own account, the materials were buried in 1991 dating from the research programme that was ended then and never re-started. His view, expressed in his book, was that Saddam would have re-started it if he could have found the opportunity, but says that this is only conjecture on his part.


62 posted on 11/12/2005 3:28:07 AM PST by Canard
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To: FairOpinion
I really don't know why the Bush administration let the Dems get away with all the lies.

I would imagine there is a reason behind it. For instance, if the administration fears that we haven't found it all, it's better to take the hits and convince the terrorists it doesn't exist rather than have the whole place swarming with people attempting to find them before we do.

Perhaps once the Iraqis get strong enough to handle it, the whole truth will come out. In the meantime, there is horrendous damage being done to the presidency. The only thing that would motivate this president to take that damage (not just to himself, but to the very presidency) is the safety of the American people. He trusted the American people to keep things straight, but it looks like they have let him down.

63 posted on 11/12/2005 3:30:18 AM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the Truth, Journalists write "Stories")
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To: FairOpinion

ping


64 posted on 11/12/2005 4:09:41 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: McGavin999
He trusted the American people to keep things straight, but it looks like they have let him down.

Wrong - The American public have not let this CIC down, the reality is it reelected him based much because of his leadership on the GWOT (which most certainly includes Iraq, which is essential to the GWOT).

Don't allow a bunch of meaningless MSM fake polls to spin you - The reality is the one real poll was taken last November and GWB was reelected with more votes then any President in history...in one of the largest turnout elections in modern history (a fact the MSM and DEM's said was impossible for a Republican to win...a high turnout election).

The public is still fully behind the GWOT (when kept informed of our progress and when the WH and RNC step up and fight back from all the lies and spin put out by the MSM / DEM's)

65 posted on 11/12/2005 4:09:47 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: FairOpinion
Since it won't appear in the emails, notes or phone calls made by the administration during the prelude to war... it will not be evidence in the impeachment hearings.

The next three years will be nothing but an assaualt on Bush, until a special-prosecutor is named. BET THE BANK!

66 posted on 11/12/2005 4:20:50 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, all that uranium at Tuwaitha is being ignored too.

But didn't the IAEA inspectors allow that? If Bush used that for a reason for war, it's pretty bad, since it was known for a decade and his father would have been to blame.

67 posted on 11/12/2005 4:24:54 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: FairOpinion

It would be interesting to see what would happen if President Bush gave a press conference composed entirely of remarks from Clinton and the Dems. Then, just let the press realize it and let it become The Story.


68 posted on 11/12/2005 4:28:13 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Pro-Bush; All
It won't matter. Some time ago, perhaps two months back, talk host Lars Larson had an opportunity to speak with Rummy and asked him why the administration isn't talking about the WMD evidence actually found and quietly reported about. Rummy said it wasn't his decision to make.

I have NO IDEA what the administration's political or policy game is on letting the "WMD=lies" mythology fester.

69 posted on 11/12/2005 4:45:55 AM PST by newzjunkey (CA: Now is not the time to give up! JoinArnold2006.com TomMcClintock.net)
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To: Gondring
You have to be on to the thinking.

If they can't show overwhelming evidence of post Gulf War '91 WMD weapons, materials, programs, research, etc. then they just quietly ignore these things as they are found.

Never mind whether it was illegal or had been hidden but people just see it was obtained in the 80's or what have you and laugh it off.

70 posted on 11/12/2005 4:49:29 AM PST by newzjunkey (CA: Now is not the time to give up! JoinArnold2006.com TomMcClintock.net)
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To: DevSix; Sarajevo

Ping WMD in Iraq


71 posted on 11/12/2005 4:52:32 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: FairOpinion
Miniter systematically dissects the "No-WMD Myth" (how it started, and why it continues)
So how did it start, and why, particularly, does it continue?

 
72 posted on 11/12/2005 4:55:10 AM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: FairOpinion

I recall that too, near the beginning of the war. I heard/read it only once and never heard it again in the media. In fact I went looking for the article(s) and could no longer find any. They were literally dumping much of the chemicals under the cover of those oil fires around the city.


73 posted on 11/12/2005 5:06:23 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: GarySpFc
Without a doubt everyone of these facts should be, being reported more by the MSM (should have been reported more about over the past 2 years, I should say).

The whole picture regarding the WMD equation has been so perverted to this date - By both sides - Well not by the WH but by those on the left and MSM (especially)....but also by some on the right who insist certain things had to be there or were moved (that in reality didn't necessarily have to be there, nor have we found evidence of. Meaning an up and running WMD operation to the level we expected to find when we moved in).

But this is an area where some things are known, others aren't still known and as SECDEF Rumsfled put it so well, there are other things we still know we don't know, as well as things regarding this issue we don't even know we aren't aware we don't know at this time.

The WH hasn't handled the WMD equation bad except for the fact that they allowed the MSM & DEM's to rewrite history suggesting it was the only reason we went into Iraq to removed Saddam. WMD's were NOT the only reason we went it, they were only one of more then a dozen very valid reasons we moved on Iraq. Furthermore it was not solely to "find" these WMD's it was also to prevent Saddam from ever producing more and using the WMD bluff card. We have certainly accomplished this goal of the WMD equation (which is never discussed).

74 posted on 11/12/2005 5:07:11 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: FairOpinion

Bump


75 posted on 11/12/2005 5:16:09 AM PST by sport
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To: A CA Guy

Talk about a WEAPON of MASS DESTRUCTION!


Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl
With yellow feathers in her hair and a dress cut down to there
She would merengue and do the cha-cha
And while she tried to be a star,
Tony always tended bar
Across the crowded floor, they worked from 8 til 4
They were young and they had each other
Who could ask for more?

At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
Music and passion were always the fashion
At the Copa....they fell in love.

(Love....Copacabana....)

His name was Rico, he wore a diamond.
He was escorted to his chair, he saw Lola dancing there
And when she finished, he called her over,
But Rico went a bit too far,
Tony sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gunshot
But just who shot who?

At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
Music and passion were always in fashion
At the Copa....she lost her love.

Copa... Copacabana... music and passion... always the fashion...

Her name is Lola, she was a showgirl,
But that was 30 years ago, when they used to have a show.
Now it's a disco, but not for Lola,
Still in the dress she used to wear,
Faded feathers in her hair.
She sits there so refined, and drinks herself half-blind.
She lost her youth and she lost her Tony,
Now she's lost her mind!

At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana (Copacabana)
The hottest spot north of Havana (here)
At the Copa (CO!), Copacabana
Music and passion were always in fashion
At the Copa....don't fall in love.

Barry Manilow -


76 posted on 11/12/2005 5:16:46 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: FairOpinion
...but there really is overwhelming evidence of WMD in Iraq. I really don't know why the Bush administration let the Dems get away with all the lies.

Amazing, isn't it?

I remember reading a story shortly after the invasion that stated our troops had found a 14 building complex NW of Baghdad that was so "hot", radioactively speaking, that they could not even enter the buildings. I never heard anymore about it after that one report. I wonder what the real story was there? That kind of radiation has to have come from HEU or HEP.

77 posted on 11/12/2005 5:25:52 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: A CA Guy
Definite hazard to me.

mc 8>))
78 posted on 11/12/2005 5:41:27 AM PST by mcshot (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON.)
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To: newzjunkey

Huh?

That would be like having the police get a warrant for you having illegal firearms, knowing you have a legal gun (registered, even!)...and then after they knock down your door and find no other gun, they say, "See! He has a gun!" while they point to your only one.


79 posted on 11/12/2005 5:41:57 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: A CA Guy
I heard they also found some cheese cake.

No, not cheese cake.... Looks more like silicone to me.

80 posted on 11/12/2005 5:46:37 AM PST by A Mississippian (Proud 7th generaion Mississippian)
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To: FairOpinion
I posted it as its own thread, it's important to point out the truth, since the Dems and media keeps perpetrating the big lie.

And since the administration has never bothered to tell us the findings.

81 posted on 11/12/2005 5:49:00 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: FairOpinion

The MSM will run to Greenpeace in a second when it fits their agenda. A lot of the far left sites twist these radio active reports to blame them on US DU projectiles.


82 posted on 11/12/2005 5:58:35 AM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: FairOpinion
also recall news stories about tests showing mustard gas in the Euphrates

I remember that as well and at the time I thought how logical it was--if you're the Iraqi Army officer in charge of chem munitions and the war is going badly & you know that anyone caught with chemical weapons can look forward to some challenging treatment; well--there's a darn big river right there and ...

83 posted on 11/12/2005 6:02:36 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: FairOpinion
See no evil, etc, you know the drill.


84 posted on 11/12/2005 6:03:54 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of an 22 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: newzjunkey

These materials obtained in the '80s can't be used to kill people? So they aren't relevant? Wonder why Saddam didn't use them in the war, but thank God they weren't.


85 posted on 11/12/2005 6:04:03 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: DevSix
there are other things we still know we don't know, as well as things regarding this issue we don't even know we aren't aware we don't know at this time.

Did the SECDEF actually add that redundancy?

86 posted on 11/12/2005 6:09:50 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: MJY1288
he orchestrated the transfer of these weapons to Iraq

You forgot to mention that he traveled to Iraq several times in his dads SR-71.

87 posted on 11/12/2005 6:15:47 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: MJY1288

"Yeah..... but they were old, and most likely brought into Iraq by Don Rumsfeld :-)"


Condi Rice had them in her purse....sheesh....get it right.


88 posted on 11/12/2005 6:25:38 AM PST by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: MJY1288

Best explanation I've read to date...


89 posted on 11/12/2005 6:34:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Jeff Head

WMD/TIC ping


90 posted on 11/12/2005 6:39:38 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: FairOpinion

You know I went to a local book store to buy Miniter's book yesterday, big shock, not there. But of course they had Frankenfraud's book there front and center right next to Dowd's and Jimmah's. I'll probably check the library but usually thats just more of the same.


91 posted on 11/12/2005 6:48:18 AM PST by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: FairOpinion

Bump!


92 posted on 11/12/2005 6:54:25 AM PST by The Mayor ( As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.)
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To: ASA Vet
Did the SECDEF actually add that redundancy?

He did, I believe - Trying to emphasize that some of those particular things "we currently don't know, we don't know"....we very well may in the next hour, day or week -

93 posted on 11/12/2005 6:58:29 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: FairOpinion

I also remember stories about chemicals found in the Euphrates. As soon as our troops reached Baghdad the army tested the water in the river and found all kinds of bad stuff in it. I have never heard it mentioned again until you did just now. I was beginning to think I had imagined it.


94 posted on 11/12/2005 7:04:53 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter
It was mentioned on several FR threads of that time.
I don't recall any mention of it by the MSM branch of the CommieRAT Party.
IIRC one of the FOX embeds reported it once. He had the river in the background while doing his report.
95 posted on 11/12/2005 7:14:36 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: FairOpinion

marking for later...


96 posted on 11/12/2005 8:27:06 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: A CA Guy

The Manilow Tapes could prove to be a bigger scandal than the Pentagon Papers. And reason enough to go to war.


97 posted on 11/12/2005 9:42:15 AM PST by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest".....)
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To: MJY1288
Yeah..... but they were old, and most likely brought into Iraq by Don Rumsfeld :-)

Not far from the truth. One reason I KNOW they had WMD's was that in the 80's, we SOLD THEM TO THE IRAQIIS! We probably still have the paperwork hidden somewhere. Then we watched them USE THEM ON TV! These tidbits are *forgotten* by the MSM.

98 posted on 11/12/2005 9:46:44 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: FairOpinion
IF we found an armed Nuke [from the USSR] in the Sunni Triangle the left would say it was OLD and probably wouldn't have detonated anyway so move on nothing to worry about.

Oh....and there are NO WMD in Iraq, never was, and Bush is a liar.

If the recent vote in the previously Republican strongholds in the suburbs of VA and NJ are any reflection, the nation BELIEVES it!!

99 posted on 11/12/2005 9:52:31 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: A CA Guy

Gives new meaning to BTTT, doesn't it?


100 posted on 11/12/2005 9:56:31 AM PST by P.O.E. (Liberalism is the opiate of the elite classes.)
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