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Sexual Affairs between Pupils and Teachers ‘Can Be Beneficial’ Says UK Prof
LifeSite ^ | November 11, 2005 | Terry Vanderheyden

Posted on 11/12/2005 5:18:52 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/12/2005 5:18:55 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
When a "crush" goes too far .... sick!

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2 posted on 11/12/2005 5:19:51 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

I wonder if there's a change in the enrollment to her class after this article...


3 posted on 11/12/2005 5:21:41 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: NYer

She's justifying her own behavior.


4 posted on 11/12/2005 5:21:43 AM PST by gingerky
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To: NYer

Pat Sikes.

Yikes!


5 posted on 11/12/2005 5:26:55 AM PST by raybbr
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To: NYer

Someone's been listening to the Police's "Don't Stand So CLose to Me" a bit much.


6 posted on 11/12/2005 5:28:30 AM PST by Malacoda (Islam = deranged, evil suicide cult)
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To: Malacoda

I had a crush on one of my teachers once, I sent her a love note. She corrected it and sent it back.....
BA..DA..BING.....


7 posted on 11/12/2005 5:33:24 AM PST by PositiveCogins
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To: raybbr
"Yikes! "

Pretty sure she has man hands.

8 posted on 11/12/2005 5:34:30 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: raybbr

Explains a lot. Sex with her teacher at age 14 was probably the last time for her.

9 posted on 11/12/2005 5:35:03 AM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: NYer
Sexual Affairs between Pupils and Teachers ‘Can Be Beneficial’ Says UK Prof

Sure it's beneficial. It is beneficial to me, since I will get a good cardio workout beating the s**t out of the teacher who would molest my kid.

10 posted on 11/12/2005 5:35:16 AM PST by PallMal
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To: NYer
she fell in love with her 22-year-old teacher when she was a girl and pupil of his at only 14, claiming that not all such relationships are wrong

I've yet to meet a crazy person who would admit to being crazy.....

11 posted on 11/12/2005 5:38:06 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm tired of idiots and don't have enough ammo to shoot them all.......Jeez, I hate that thought!)
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To: Shalom Israel; billorites

She looks pretty miserable, doesn't she? Maybe the sex wasn't all that great after all.


12 posted on 11/12/2005 5:40:17 AM PST by raybbr
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To: NYer
These people who spout garbage like this, this Professor Numbskull, well, they are insane.

In the past Britain had places to put these people. Today, they are teaching in Universities.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 5:40:55 AM PST by A message
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To: NYer

Coming to a school near you.


14 posted on 11/12/2005 5:47:45 AM PST by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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To: NYer

Nope...no such thing as right and wrong...just different...nothing to see here...move along people. </sarc>


15 posted on 11/12/2005 5:49:19 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: Frenetic

Classic case of defining deviancy down.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 5:50:39 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: NYer
Child advocates were quick to condemn Sikes’ views as “bizarre.”

Ah, the slippery slope. Notice they are afraid to say "wrong" so they use the word "bizarre". Soon it will become "offbeat" then "unusual" then "different" then "alternate" then "acceptable" then "preferred" then "required" then "mandatory". And parents will be prevented by law from interferring. They will also be required to provide a bed for the 'couple'.

17 posted on 11/12/2005 5:50:50 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: jwalsh07

It's an excuse. They can't excuse their behavior or face the truth so they try to redefine the terms instead. What a loser. This lady must have the emotional maturity of a 12 y/o.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 5:53:22 AM PST by Frenetic
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To: NYer
"sexual relations between pupils and teachers can lend a beneficial “erotic charge” to the classroom.".

We already ask so much of our teachers. We simply can't burden them with this additional responsibility.

19 posted on 11/12/2005 5:57:36 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: NYer

bump


20 posted on 11/12/2005 6:01:44 AM PST by VOA
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To: commonguymd
Coming to a school near you.

Already there! A local teacher has been imprisoned for having sexual relations with 3 of her male students.

21 posted on 11/12/2005 6:02:57 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Shalom Israel

lol...


22 posted on 11/12/2005 6:03:52 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: Malacoda
Someone's been listening to the Police's "Don't Stand So CLose to Me" a bit much.

My thoughts too.

23 posted on 11/12/2005 6:04:22 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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A professor of education is contending that sexual relations between pupils and teachers can lend a beneficial “erotic charge” to the classroom.

Where was this thinking when I was in Miss Lynch's 7th grade math class???

(picture Michelle Malkin writing on the chalk board)

24 posted on 11/12/2005 6:06:40 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: Right Wing Assault

lol... Your post is a good example of why the Slippery Slope is condidered a logical fallacy.


25 posted on 11/12/2005 6:15:46 AM PST by flada (They don't have meetings about rainbows.)
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To: flada

This teacher needs a date.


26 posted on 11/12/2005 6:17:18 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Right Wing Assault

Excellent point!


27 posted on 11/12/2005 6:19:16 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: NYer

Don't stand

Don't stand so

Don't stand so close to me


28 posted on 11/12/2005 6:26:24 AM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101
The greatest irony is that it may be the students saying that to the teacher rather than the other way around as in the song.
29 posted on 11/12/2005 6:40:51 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: flada
Slippery Slope is condidered a logical fallacy

Of course I took it too far on purpose for the humorous effect, but I am sure it will march along about half of my list.

30 posted on 11/12/2005 6:43:31 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: NYer

I'll wager Justice Ginsburg concurs.


31 posted on 11/12/2005 6:52:10 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter

No doubt that there are some profs at the University of Minnesota that would also concur with this as well. U of M Press a few years ago published a book effectively endorsing child molestation.

I live in Minnesota, own part of a business here, but DO NOT EVER CALL ME A MINNESOTAN.


32 posted on 11/12/2005 7:12:40 AM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: NYer
I wonder how long before the "lucky kid" crowd wander into this thread. Oh wait, she's writing about young girls, not boys.

She's nuts. The question I have is what peer-review journal has the desire to kill its credibility to publish her paper?

33 posted on 11/12/2005 7:19:53 AM PST by newzjunkey ((Taglines on a brief hiatus.))
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To: NYer
I guess I'm getting old, as I can't tell a 14 year old girl from a 22 year old one. 22 YO hormones aren't much more mature that 14 YO hormones. A bad mix, IMO.

Way too much sex in school. Was then, is now. Folks want to know why the schools want to involve themselves in their child's sex education. That's because that's where they are getting that education - in the hall, classroom, library, storeroom, under the bleachers, in the bathroom - and that was 35+ years ago.

Any guy out there who ever dropped a pencil or book in class knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Segregate the boys from the girls, teachers & most admin, too, from age 11 thru high school. Plenty of time for that after school, & the responsibility for this behavior (perfectly natural) falls back to the parents, where it belongs. And their exposure to male & female role models (respectively) will help kids lacking in this area.

As to GLAAD students & teachers, the above plan could get messy.
34 posted on 11/12/2005 7:22:47 AM PST by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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To: NYer

hogwash


35 posted on 11/12/2005 7:23:42 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: NYer

I really tried to convince my comely, young high school librarian of this when I proposed matrimony to no avail. I gave it a shot, young and dumb as I was...


36 posted on 11/12/2005 7:34:59 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: NYer

A pervert tries to justify his baseness.


37 posted on 11/12/2005 7:45:06 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Fred Hayek

Didn't they get in trouble for that not long ago?


38 posted on 11/12/2005 7:48:19 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: NYer

I wonder how many college professors are teaching in universities because:

1. they are trying to have sex with as many students as possible (being that today's youth are "easy pickings")

and/or,

2. they use minors to get drugs for them.


39 posted on 11/12/2005 8:27:13 AM PST by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

"Slippery Slope is condidered a logical fallacy"

Especially by those who have used them so skillfully in the service of the leftist agenda. Slippery slopes -- real, not false -- have been their best friends.


40 posted on 11/12/2005 8:32:37 AM PST by dsc
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Is she ever going to grow out of her 14 year old emotional state?


41 posted on 11/12/2005 9:51:40 AM PST by kenth (Come back here... so that I may brain thee!)
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"A professor of education is contending that sexual relations between pupils and teachers can lend a beneficial “erotic charge” to the classroom."

Lesseee now. I guess this would be reason number 843 to homeschool your children.


42 posted on 11/12/2005 12:19:10 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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I once had an English professor who had a whole staple of female students in our English Lit class.


43 posted on 11/12/2005 12:30:32 PM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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44 posted on 11/12/2005 3:54:10 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: NYer; thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Hey, it's the weekend! Aren't these sick stories supposed to wind down on Saturday???

I don't know about you, but does it seem as though we're reaping the whirlwind? Reject moral absolutes as too old fashioned, too strict, fanatical, too religious, and this is what we wind up with. But it's not even as bad as it's likely to get. All kinds of people and professional organizations are advocating "inter-generational" sex and have been for some years.

Fight it! It's better to fight it and lose than give up. One day we'll have to answer for everything we've done.

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45 posted on 11/12/2005 4:17:54 PM PST by little jeremiah
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Sexual Affairs between Pupils and Teachers ‘Can Be Beneficial’ Says UK Prof

For Whom?


46 posted on 11/12/2005 4:19:48 PM PST by Smedley
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To: little jeremiah

little jeremiah wrote: "But it's not even as bad as it's likely to get."

You have that right! A lot of people don't think we need God any more, but that's just not true. This is the kind of perversity that happens when people try to be their own gods. Yes, some people are strong enough to live relatively pure lives without God--not being pure enough to win salvation, of course--but most people will fall deeper into sin.

When I look at our society and see large majorities who no longer believe fornication or homosexuality is sin, I'm convinced we are fulfilling end-time prophecy. No one knows when Christ will return, of course, but he did predict a world like Sodom and Gomorah at the end of the age. Even 20 years ago, people hid their shame, but now they parade their sins with pride (another end-time prophecy). Then, they call us Christians evil for saying their sins are evil.

I only hope and pray others will read the Bible and come to know the Lord before it's too late, because I agree with little jeremiah--it's going to get REAL bad if this is the end of the age. Believe me, there will come a time when you won't be able to shield your kids from the perverts, because they will be in the schools, on TV, and in your neighborhoods (in much greater numbers than they are today).

Perhaps this isn't the end times. Perhaps God's patience hasn't run out. If so, we might just be able to join together against the perverts and restore morality in America. May it be so! For without God, we are indeed lost.


47 posted on 11/12/2005 10:42:33 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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48 posted on 11/16/2005 5:11:34 PM PST by maineman
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To: Malacoda

That's what I was thinking. (The scary thing is the person who wrote that song was a teacher)


49 posted on 11/16/2005 5:13:33 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Malacoda; CzarNicky

Actually, now that I think about it, the song doesn't promote the affair as "beneficial."


50 posted on 11/16/2005 5:14:49 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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