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"Mothers Against Brain Injury" Help Families Surrounded By Uncertainty
FCN ^ | 11/11/2005 | First Coast News Staff

Posted on 11/12/2005 6:41:05 AM PST by tutstar

"[There's] no real support system for a trauma, for a life-threatening immediate incident that takes place. That throws your whole life into a tailspin," said Tracy East.

East is another mom who camped at her injured child's bedside day and night. She realized there isn't anything to get parents through this.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstcoastnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: braininjury; florida
Mothers Against Brain Injury
1 posted on 11/12/2005 6:41:06 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Nightshift; cyn; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; Ohioan from Florida

ping


2 posted on 11/12/2005 6:41:37 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: tutstar

Story aside, why do Mother-based orgs always have to be named "against" something? Their name makes no sense.


3 posted on 11/12/2005 6:47:53 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: AmericanChef
Story aside, why do Mother-based orgs always have to be named "against" something? Their name makes no sense.

Probably because your not going to find too many mother FOR brain injuries, or FOR drunk driving.

4 posted on 11/12/2005 6:51:55 AM PST by Bommer (To Ted Kennedy - "Fat Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life son!" - Dean Wormer)
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To: AmericanChef

I don't know....

I agree they could have a more positive name, but I guess since it's stuck they won't want to change it.


5 posted on 11/12/2005 6:54:28 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: tutstar
After 30 years hiatus....

Ol' Wings just finished his motorcycle safety and (re-)certification course this week....

Learned a lot... ESPECIALLY...

Helmets on... boys & girls....
Mean tough ol' bikers too....

Yes, it's your freedom... and your prerogative....
But the statistics don't lie... especially for motorcyclists.

Do the smart thing ---even if it isn't as cool...

Anybody have an ElectraGlide Classic for sale?

6 posted on 11/12/2005 7:02:45 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: AmericanChef; tutstar
I agree the name should be changed. And I remember years ago when we were faced with the trauma of our son severely brain injured at birth.

We were alone with no support. Worse, the doctors turned away from us and our own families shunned our problem in shame.

How we would have loved a kind word from anyone at all or even a token of sympathy. It never arrived and we just had to make do.

I cheer on this group.

Pinged from Terri November Dailies

8mm

7 posted on 11/12/2005 7:10:40 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
Anybody have an ElectraGlide Classic for sale?

LOL not here. After living in a big city for a while and seeing how people drive I would wear a helmet "if" I was on a bike. Why? Because life is good!

8 posted on 11/12/2005 7:13:11 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: 8mmMauser

I'm so sorry you experienced that. There is no shame in having one of God's special children. The way I look at it God saw something "special" in you or He wouldn't have given you the responsibility and blessing of caring for that child. I pray the blessings have and will continue to outnumber the trials.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 7:16:47 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: AmericanChef
Story aside, why do Mother-based orgs always have to be named "against" something? Their name makes no sense.

They have to be against something to make it easier for the liberal factions to subvert and pervert the original intentions of the group and turn it into a pro-scum, anti-decency political force.

10 posted on 11/12/2005 7:24:52 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: tutstar

Thanks, that is the way it was in those days, with old parents and old ideas. They saw shame. We saw a challenge and as time went on, we saw a wonderful blessing that we were the ones to take care of a living angel. He lived 26 years in spite of the doctors and lived a happy life. He changed our lives forever for the better, we like to think.

8mm


11 posted on 11/12/2005 7:25:00 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
What stats are you talking about that don't lie?

The fed gov's own stats say that a head injured helmeted rider cost more to hospitalize than a head injured helmetLESS rider.

(FARS report 1994)

Head injuries are one thing, spinal cord trauma is something else.

The reason for the stat being skewed like this is because the helmeted rider lived, as a dependent cripple. The helmetless rider either died, (we don't count dead in this mix, cause the dead don't cost money, which is what this is all about, nothing else) or was rehabed.

Another stat. We know for a fact that a helmet's efficacy ends at the great speed of 14mph. That's not a misprint. Its 14. After that, a problem occurs, we move from traumatic head injury right into traumatic spine injury.

The bottom line is this. There have been NO STUDIES DONE on helmet efficacy. No crash tests, no dynamic tests, nothing.

So the "stats" that the safety nannies are yakking about usually got pulled out of someone's ass.

I could go on for pages. But remember this:

Christopher Reeves ended up in a chair because of his helmet.
Dale Eirnhart (sp?) was killed by his helmet.
Gary Bussey is a little dumber and uglier, but is still working and making movies.

I know you will respond, so have at it, but understand that I have about 25 years of activism on this subject.

Know what an "axinal rotation" is?
12 posted on 11/12/2005 7:43:17 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: tutstar

Watch and see if this well-meaning organization doesn't metamorphose into something a bit more insidious ... I'm thinking "mandatory helmets for all people out-of-doors." Prevents brain injuries, you know.


13 posted on 11/12/2005 7:43:21 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Al Gator
What stats are you talking about that don't lie?

Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) injury/fatality/cause factor studies from the whole years 1991-2004.
The recent fatality low was in 1997 (2116) and for all of 2004 nearly doubled (4008).

More than 50% of all motorcycle fatalities are attributed to head/brain trauma... and for those who live...

One of the overall and ongoing statistical conclusions is that a rider who crashes without a helmet is 5X more likely to incur serious head/brain injuries....

Pay your money... take your chances....

As I said in the original post...
Your freedom... your prerogative... ultimately..
Your choice...

All due respect for your many years of experience and activism.... My sincere thanks for your dignified aproach to the debate....(SAAAAA--luuute)...

I also have 31 years in the (aviation) safety business...
(These days renewing my riding enjoyment after completing one successful career -- now moving more toward significance than success; and graduating a houseful of kids that are all smarter than the old man).

Though all of the physics aren't the same, a few basic principles do transfer cleanly:
(1) If you want to win the (safety/survival) game -- stack the deck in your favor.... everytime... and
(2) Safety is an attitude ( or lack thereof)...

I hope neither of us suffer the opportunity to prove the point firsthand!
Enjoy the ride.... please do stay safe... be blessed!

Thanks for the conversation.

14 posted on 11/12/2005 8:15:58 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: tutstar
This just in:

15 posted on 11/12/2005 8:28:51 AM PST by frankenMonkey (Name one civil liberty that was not paid for in blood)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

Who knows?

For now they are performing a ministry to people who aren't getting a shoulder to lean on when they need it.

The HIPPA laws have made it so that even if you tell they hospital you'd like your pastor to visit they won't contact the church to tell them you're hospitalized.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 8:32:12 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: 8mmMauser

I'm sure you are right that your lives were bettered by his. I know you have many beautiful memories of him. One day you'll be reunited.


17 posted on 11/12/2005 8:34:49 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: frankenMonkey

What about

Mothers Against Mothers Againsts?


18 posted on 11/12/2005 8:36:07 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: trebb
They have to be against something to make it easier for the liberal factions to subvert and pervert the original intentions of the group and turn it into a pro-scum, anti-decency political force.

Then somebody should just start Mothers Against Decency and cut right to the chase. ;)

19 posted on 11/12/2005 8:37:04 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: tutstar
Mothers Against Mothers Againsts?

M.A.M.A.

That works.

20 posted on 11/12/2005 8:41:40 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: frankenMonkey
How come father's are left out? Just think of the cool acronyms:

Fathers Against Guns

Fathers Against Rotten Teachers

21 posted on 11/12/2005 8:46:35 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Al Gator
Know what an "axinal rotation" is?

You mean, "axial rotation?"

It ain't pretty, by no means. Almost too graphic to explain here in detail.

22 posted on 11/12/2005 8:51:21 AM PST by kstewskis (Happy Veteran's Weekend!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

" Anybody have an ElectraGlide Classic for sale?"

I'm looking for a 45'. Hard to find at what I'm willing to pay.


23 posted on 11/12/2005 9:54:47 AM PST by dljordan
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To: kstewskis

You may be correct. I've reread the legal notes on a case that centered around this problem.

It was filed as anxinal. Lawyers are wrong sometimes too. (blush) I'll research this some more!

Thanks.


24 posted on 11/13/2005 3:04:40 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: tutstar

Bless them. God was with them.


25 posted on 11/13/2005 3:12:45 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
I appreciate your civil response! Seriously, I usually get flamed big time.

There are many sides to this problem. I have a problem with MSF stats too. I don't think their collection of data quite meets good practice. We argue strenuously with that bunch, while at the same time, we strongly suggest everyone take their course. Love/hate thingie.

We do know that fatalities in the last year, in PA and Fl, decreased. The predicted carnage did not occur.

At 70 mph, on the turnpike, a helmet is not going to do diddly except get in my way. I still wear the bugger around town though. Its a choice.

The problem with mc accidents is that it is not a controlled environment. The inside of a plane, the inside of a car, we pretty much know down to the millimeter, what is going to happen to your body. We do not know a thing about mc wrecks. No crash test dummy data. Nada, zip, nothing!! This may change though because we pushed to include such data collection in the last icetea budget. Win or lose, we will start to understand the dynamics a little better.

One more thing. In states that mandate helmet use, do they also mandate that the thing fit properly?? HHHMMMMM???

Cause of death, ill fitting helmet. Probably has killed more riders than we know, but again, that data is not collected at the scene.

Have a happy! (Going for light sport rating, trying to build a Pietenpol.)
26 posted on 11/13/2005 3:16:17 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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