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Prison Inmate Elected To School Board
http://www.wtkr.com ^ | 11 11 05 | http://www.wtkr.com

Posted on 11/12/2005 2:22:09 PM PST by freepatriot32

He wasn't able to get out to vote for himself, but lots of others did. And a prison inmate was elected to a school board Tuesday in southern California.

Randy Hale received 831 votes, earning one of three open seats on the Romoland School Board, even though he's behind bars. Hale violated his parole after being convicted of spousal abuse and drug possession.

He was returned to prison in September, and isn't due to be released until mid-February. His wife Penny says "this is wild." The district's superintendent says he's consulting lawyers to figure out how to handle the situation.

A political scientist at the University of California-Riverside says the fact that Hale's name was at the top of the ballot may have helped him get votes.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; constitutionlist; educationnews; elected; elections; govwatch; homeschoollist; inmates; prisoninmate; pspl; schoolboard; toschoolboard; voteordie; wodlist

1 posted on 11/12/2005 2:22:10 PM PST by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

Is a politician going to jail before getting elected a lot like illegal motion by the offensive line?


2 posted on 11/12/2005 2:23:34 PM PST by Bernard (You can either deal with your situation or be a liberal about it.)
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To: JohnHuang2

PING!


3 posted on 11/12/2005 2:24:13 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: freepatriot32

What's he doing messing around with the school board? In California, that's congressional material.


4 posted on 11/12/2005 2:24:30 PM PST by rvoitier ("Hug your babies tight"--Luanne Platter)
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To: Born Conservative

Ping


5 posted on 11/12/2005 2:24:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: freepatriot32
A political scientist at the University of California-Riverside says the fact that Hale's name was at the top of the ballot may have helped him get votes.

Absolutely, these nonpartisan elections are the worst. Nobody knows anything about any of the candidates, so it depends whose name is first or who has a more interesting (or ethnic) name.

6 posted on 11/12/2005 2:28:03 PM PST by AmishDude (Amishdude, the one and only.)
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To: rvoitier
The Super's email address:

skoom@romoland.k12.ca.us

7 posted on 11/12/2005 2:29:37 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
not technically a Libertarian ping but interesting non the less

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

8 posted on 11/12/2005 2:30:18 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32


This is just so....left wing....


9 posted on 11/12/2005 2:32:43 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Bernard
Is a politician going to jail before getting elected a lot like illegal motion by the offensive line?

LOL. A lot like that yes especially in California.

10 posted on 11/12/2005 2:36:43 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freepatriot32
I am sure the voters in their wisdom knew exactly what they were doing.

This is a result of having secret ballots, no responsibility for ones actions. The names of every voter who voted for the inmate should be published, so they can proudly explain their wise choice.

Ballots were not always secret in this country.

11 posted on 11/12/2005 2:38:15 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: freepatriot32

Bring back the poll tax.


12 posted on 11/12/2005 2:42:51 PM PST by Wheens
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To: AmishDude
Absolutely, these nonpartisan elections are the worst. Nobody knows anything about any of the candidates, so it depends whose name is first or who has a more interesting (or ethnic) name.

In Massachusetts, a common tactic for an incumbent was to run a shill with the Kennedy surname in the primaries. This would effectively split the vote of the opposition, ensuring re-election.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 2:43:46 PM PST by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: freepatriot32

I always thought most school board members were lying fools and thieves for the most part anyway.
He is just joining his own and being in prison will keep him from doing harm or getting raises through taxes or levies.
Or will it?


14 posted on 11/12/2005 2:43:51 PM PST by kindred (Democrats are amoral neo-nazis with no values.)
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To: All
future school uniforms in the Romoland school district :-)
15 posted on 11/12/2005 2:47:53 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Wheens
Bring back the poll tax.

Make it really high so it will discriminate against stupid people, like $1.50.

16 posted on 11/12/2005 2:49:54 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mrs Mark

"Make it really high so it will discriminate against stupid people, like $1.50."

Kick it to $2.00, make it nationwide and watch all 50 states go "Red".


17 posted on 11/12/2005 3:02:24 PM PST by Wheens
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To: freepatriot32

"And a prison inmate was elected to a school board Tuesday in southern California."

Figured it was CA as soon as I read the title.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 3:19:02 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: freepatriot32
I'm surprised he wasn't also a child molester.

THAT could be a big plus with some out there ... equal opportunity for perverts in "remission".

LOL!!!
19 posted on 11/12/2005 3:21:06 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Wheens
LOL. The DUmmies will have to pay a tax AND give booze/cigs to the homeless junkies that vote for them.
20 posted on 11/12/2005 3:31:03 PM PST by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter ( I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: AmishDude
Absolutely, these nonpartisan elections are the worst. Nobody knows anything about any of the candidates, so it depends whose name is first or who has a more interesting (or ethnic) name.

That applies more to things like park district or water district. For school district, our candidates write a quarter-page statement, so voters can get a feeling about at least some of the candidates.

Last year, for three seats, there were two teachers' union-supported incumbents and another union-supported flunkie who said the schools were great and they would keep the schools great, etc.; one candidate said the schools needed improvement according to the standard test scores (so don't vote for the status quo teachers' union people); and one candidate said he supported family values and the Boy Scouts.

The BSA supporter won, along with the two incumbents. Unfortunately, the BSA supporter seems to be the only boardmember who listens to parents while the other four boardmembers follow the liberal teachers' union ideas against the wishes of parents, so essentially there's been no change in board policies.

21 posted on 11/12/2005 6:56:43 PM PST by heleny
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To: Mrs Mark
no responsibility for ones actions. The names of every voter who voted for the inmate should be published, so they can proudly explain their wise choice.

Why? It's not that bad to have an inmate in the board, since he won't be available to do any harm. Besides, the reason for a board (instead of a single administrator) is that other members are part of the decision process, too, unless they're all in jail. The recall process is available to the voters, too, just in case.

It's also possible that some voters disliked the other candidates and voted for someone they didn't know.

22 posted on 11/12/2005 7:03:18 PM PST by heleny
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To: Wheens
Kick it to $2.00

This past special election, the Unions spent around $150 million to defeat a few propositions. CA had 15,891,482 registered voters. That's $10/voter.

23 posted on 11/12/2005 7:21:23 PM PST by heleny
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Dianna; ...

24 posted on 11/12/2005 7:35:31 PM PST by Born Conservative (The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out - G. Carlin)
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To: freepatriot32

Great roll model. Politically correct and very admirable of a group of degenerates who think it is cute. Sick bastards.


25 posted on 11/12/2005 7:38:07 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Bernard
Is a politician going to jail before getting elected a lot like illegal motion by the offensive line?

Yes, but it costs you more than 5 yards.

26 posted on 11/12/2005 7:39:37 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: heleny
Why? It's not that bad to have an inmate in the board, ... It's also possible that some voters disliked the other candidates and voted for someone they didn't know.

If someone votes for someone they don't know they should proudly let everyone know, how smart they are.

It is no secrete that others have died to allow us the freedom to vote.

Elected officials have roll call votes, and they get their power from the people, the people should have roll call votes to set the example of accountability for those elected.

Secrete elections and black balling candidates are fine for social clubs and fraternities, but the bar should be higher for our form of self government.

27 posted on 11/13/2005 7:20:44 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Bernard

I thought it was common nowadays.

A person in jail often does not have the right to vote, nor should he have the right to be elected. You give up your freedoms at that time.


28 posted on 11/13/2005 7:28:42 AM PST by moog
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To: ncountylee

Remember though, he didn't elect the guy, the voters did. I hope that the super can deal with the situation well. I wonder what the guy would do with truants.


29 posted on 11/13/2005 7:29:56 AM PST by moog
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To: SamAdams76

I am glad that at least my small city elections are nonpartisan. I would hate for them to become political brouhahas over issues that have nothing to do with my city at all like it is in the bigger cities and counties around here. I am grateful to live in a city where most of the officials have at least some integrity. Politicians with integrity are becoming an endangered species in these parts.


30 posted on 11/13/2005 7:33:15 AM PST by moog
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To: Mrs Mark

"The names of every voter who voted for the inmate should be published, so they can proudly explain their wise choice."

The excuse will be that they didn't see or read the material about the guy. It's kind of like that woman a year ago who made a left turn and hit the bus I was riding on--"But, but, I didn't see the bus officer..."


31 posted on 11/13/2005 7:35:17 AM PST by moog
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To: rvoitier
What's he doing messing around with the school board? In California, that's congressional material.

He must be a "short timer"!

LoL!

32 posted on 11/13/2005 7:35:53 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: SamAdams76
There was a guy named John F. Kennedy who had been a school janitor who was elected Treasurer of the Great Commonwealth in the 1960's, IIRC.
33 posted on 11/13/2005 7:36:50 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: heleny
I would have voted for the BSA supporter too. If you want to get my dander up, just start ranting on how the BSA should start gays and the like. Being from a family with 6 Eagle Scouts (and with dozens of cousins who have achieved it too), you can see why it does.

Test scores don't always say everything about a school for me--too many factors to be the single source of it all.

We had some political agenda anti-education cantidates elected to our state school board. My local school board respresentative is a good one though. He is very involved in the community and a great person.

I just read an article from the newspaper back home where the superintendent meets with parents once a week at a local restaurant and people are free to ask any questions they want to. The idea has been well-received.

As a teacher, I've learned that it is impossible to satisfy EVERY one and that sometimes you are darned if you do and darned if you don't. Nonetheless, I still try to do the best I can. Those little smiles each day are what keep me going as well as the many excellent parents I come into contact with.

34 posted on 11/13/2005 7:45:57 AM PST by moog
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

There was a guy named John F. Kennedy who had been a school janitor who was elected Treasurer of the Great Commonwealth in the 1960's, IIRC.

Yeah, I wonder whatever happened to him. He was good at plugging up the toilets and depositing crap in them.


35 posted on 11/13/2005 7:47:37 AM PST by moog
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To: heleny

This past special election, the Unions spent around $150 million to defeat a few propositions. CA had 15,891,482 registered voters. That's $10/voter.

Kudos to your math teacher:)


36 posted on 11/13/2005 7:48:12 AM PST by moog
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To: EGPWS

He must be a "short timer"!

I wonder if he supports "term" limits.


37 posted on 11/13/2005 7:48:48 AM PST by moog
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To: Mrs Mark
It is no secrete that others have died to allow us the freedom to vote. Elected officials have roll call votes, and they get their power from the people, the people should have roll call votes to set the example of accountability for those elected. Secrete elections and black balling candidates are fine for social clubs and fraternities, but the bar should be higher for our form of self government.

They should have restrooms for those who need to secrete a lot. Blackballing canditates is a common practice. It happens here all the time, even with members of the same party.

38 posted on 11/13/2005 7:51:31 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
I wonder if he supports "term" limits.

Wouldn't you if you walked just a mile in his shoes? ; )

39 posted on 11/13/2005 7:52:15 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: moog
I've learned that it is impossible to satisfy EVERY one and that sometimes you are darned if you do and darned if you don't.

A learning experience that makes for a well founded and healthy look on life.

40 posted on 11/13/2005 7:55:36 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: moog
They should have restrooms for those who need to secrete a lot.

That was funny!

Blackballing candidates is a common practice. It happens here all the time, even with members of the same party.

I'm actually referring to a process where a box is passed around a room and a white marble or a black marble is placed inside the box. All it takes is one black ball for the candidate, for membership perhaps, is rejected. The identity of whoever placed the black ball is unknown. Our election process should be more open than this.

41 posted on 11/13/2005 8:17:05 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mrs Mark
I'm actually referring to a process where a box is passed around a room and a white marble or a black marble is placed inside the box. All it takes is one black ball for the candidate, for membership perhaps, is rejected. The identity of whoever placed the black ball is unknown. Our election process should be more open than this.

Shows how dumb I am:). In principle, I agree with you, but I would worry a little about it here. Politicians here love to get revenge on those who they think have wronged them. My current mayor is a master at it (I've made sure to stay on his good side--hehe). There have been a few things I have voted against, for my own reasons, even though I may have agreed mostly with the issue.

42 posted on 11/13/2005 8:22:59 AM PST by moog
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To: freepatriot32
Finally, an honest politician.

Usually, you don't find out they're criminals until after they get into office.

43 posted on 11/13/2005 12:12:37 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Born Conservative

Maybe they were voting for the lesser of evils. Who knows.


44 posted on 11/13/2005 4:18:12 PM PST by planekT
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