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Threat of Burning Christians Alive! (Prayers and help needed)
My e-mail | 11/12/05 | Pastor.Johnson Mathews

Posted on 11/12/2005 3:21:12 PM PST by MSCASEY

JMM Urgent Prayer] November 12, 2005 Dear Friend in Christ,

I am asking you today to pray for an extremely critical situation. More than 60 new believers in the Indian state of Himachal Pradesh are being threatened with death if they do not convert back to Hinduism! It is not enough that they escaped the spiritual bondage that has oppressed their people for centuries, but now radical Hindus have threatened to burn alive any Christians who do not return to their former slavery.

Here is what happened: On November 4, a pastor was attacked and severely beaten by a group of militants who threatened his life. Now the same group says they will conduct a puja (ritual) on November 20 to forcefully convert the Christians in his church to Hinduism--and burn alive any who do not renounce their new faith.

The pastor has filed a complaint with local police, but the area is dominated by a large temple to the Hindu god Shiva. Thousands of pilgrims come to the temple, so Hinduism is important to the local economy. It is not clear if the police will take any action to protect the Christians.

What is most important now is that we pray for this situation. I urge you to pray for the protection of the men, women and children in that place who have committed their lives to Christ. Pray that God will surround them with His angels and turn back any violence. Please also pray for their attackers, that their hearts will be softened and that God will work a miracle in their lives.

Imagine what a powerful force for good they could become if they surrendered their lives to the Living God instead of gods that do not hear them!

Please share this request with your church and your friends. This is a spiritual battle, and only through prayer and fasting will the enemy be defeated in this stronghold.

I thank you for being a part of what God is doing in Asia. Thank you, most of all, for standing with us and with our brothers and sisters in Himachal Pradesh during this challenging time.

Yours for the lost of Asia,

Pastor.Johnson Mathews


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1 posted on 11/12/2005 3:21:13 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: MSCASEY

Prayers up.

This surprises me. I didn't think that Hindus were violent and threatening. None that I know of are like that.


2 posted on 11/12/2005 3:23:48 PM PST by IndyInVa (There needs to be less corruption. Or more opportunity for me to participate in it.)
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To: All
This is an e-mail that I received from a pastor in India that I have been writing to for a couple years.

A few years ago an Australian missionary and his two young sons were burned to death alive in India.

This threat is very real. Please pray and send e-mails to our government and the India government.

http://www.indianembassy.org/

Thank you!

Ms. Casey's Daughter
3 posted on 11/12/2005 3:27:28 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY
I wasn't aware that Hindus killed those who chose to follow a different path. Perhaps some of them are picking up this nasty habit from the mohammedan dogs to whom they're exposed.
4 posted on 11/12/2005 3:28:25 PM PST by isrul
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To: MSCASEY

I'll be praying for them. Maybe it's time for the church planters to leave a really cheap camcorder at these churches. Non of this is ever going to stop until it is filmed and noticed in the west.


5 posted on 11/12/2005 3:28:35 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: MSCASEY
Close to the same thing happened to the Baptist Church in Silchar, Assam, India around ten years ago. The Church and printing press were damaged and the pastor and few converts were threatened by these nice peace loving Indians.
6 posted on 11/12/2005 3:29:25 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I shot an error into the air. It's still going everywhere. R. A. HEINLEIN)
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To: IndyInVa
The want the cast system to stay in India. They do like the Christian over in India.

A few years ago they burned alive an Australian missionary and his two young sons.

Thank you for the prayers. Please if you send an e-mail this might help also!

Thanks Again!

Ms Casey's Daughter
7 posted on 11/12/2005 3:31:20 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY
Hindus are behaving this way!?
8 posted on 11/12/2005 3:32:12 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: IndyInVa

Hindus are non-violent except when they're not. The persecution against Christians is very real. Hindus wouldn't mind adding Jesus to their pantheon of dieties, but the part when Jesus says, "I am THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life" really bothers them. The next part, "NO ONE comes to the Father but by ME" is totally infuriating. It is the exclusive worship demanded by God which makes the Hindus violent.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 3:33:08 PM PST by Jemian
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To: isrul

It has been that way since I have been writing my pastor for a few years. It is not a safe place to be a Christian. We just do not hear of it.

Ms. Casey's Daughter


10 posted on 11/12/2005 3:34:11 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY
Prayers lifted for those Christians.

/john

11 posted on 11/12/2005 3:35:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: MSCASEY
I thought burning was only for the wives, who did not bring enough dowry.
A lot of kitchen fires resulted in this crime.
12 posted on 11/12/2005 3:36:02 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I shot an error into the air. It's still going everywhere. R. A. HEINLEIN)
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To: MSCASEY

Maybe the Christians could dress up in cow suits.


13 posted on 11/12/2005 3:45:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bahblahbah
The Voice of the Martyrs has many picture and other documentation of persecution around the world. They also will send a free monthly newsletter. They have a prisoner list that people can write to people who are jailed for their faith.

Most churches in America do not care enough to write letters or get involved.

I had talked to a pastor and the response was we send missionaries all around.

I asked what follow up they did when they began persecuting the people that are becoming Christians. There was no response.

Sad very Sad!

Ms. Casey's Daughter
14 posted on 11/12/2005 3:45:39 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I will keep you in my prayers! I know that India is not safe place for Christians! Please pray for the brothers and sisters in India.

Ms. Casey's Daughter
15 posted on 11/12/2005 3:49:43 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: IndyInVa

Shiva is called 'the destroyer'.
Hindus kill Christians all too frequently in India and other area nations. Even Buddhists attack Christians. It's open season on Christians throughout much of the world.
What can you expect from anyone who believes in this kind of foolishness - if you research a little bit, you'll find that Shiva is as ridiculous as any cartoon or fairy tail you ever saw/heard.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 3:52:47 PM PST by Imnotalib
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To: MSCASEY

This is also surprising to me.

But I know of the vicious caste system and Christianity has made strong inroads among the lowest members of the caste system and the "untouchables". So it doesn't surprise me.


17 posted on 11/12/2005 3:53:52 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Thank you very much for your prayers if you could send an e-mail and let others know about this it may help to prevent a tragedy from happening!

Ms. Casey's Daughter
18 posted on 11/12/2005 4:16:57 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

That whole dowry and marriage thing over there is unbelievable. My pastor has a young daughter and I pray for her.

Ms. Casey's daughter


19 posted on 11/12/2005 4:19:29 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

If they did dress up in cow suits they would be very safe!
Good one!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


20 posted on 11/12/2005 4:20:48 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY
I'll mention it at prayer requests tomorrow. And give a copy of the story to the padre, so he can talk to if from the pulpit.

/john

21 posted on 11/12/2005 4:22:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: ZULU
Please help and send an e-mail to our government and maybe India. I would hate to read about this threat becoming a reality.

Thanks!

Ms. Casey's Daughter
22 posted on 11/12/2005 4:22:54 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY

I had the wrong idea about dowry before I went to India.
I thought it was to help the newly weds start out.
The dowry instead goes to the parents of the groom.


23 posted on 11/12/2005 4:24:04 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (I shot an error into the air. It's still going everywhere. R. A. HEINLEIN)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank you! Voice of the Martyrs says that letters and making it known that we know about things like this helps!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


24 posted on 11/12/2005 4:25:42 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: Imnotalib
Shiva is called 'the destroyer'.

I did not know that. I am not certain which god my pastor sent me a picture of from India about a year ago. It was a big statue and they were going to have some type of worship in a river in the town. My computer crashed and I do not have those pictures any longer. I wish I did. Ms. Casey's Daughter

25 posted on 11/12/2005 4:29:45 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

And if the Dowry is not good enough what kind of husbands do these girls get?

It is a bizzare custom!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


26 posted on 11/12/2005 4:31:46 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: IndyInVa

Indians that convert to Christianity can expect trouble from Hindus and Muslims:

http://www.persecution.org/newsite/countryinfodetail.php?countrycode=3


27 posted on 11/12/2005 4:34:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: MSCASEY

Ping! thanks so much again! Could you please ping others that you know who would interested in this!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


28 posted on 11/12/2005 4:34:57 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: VOA
Thank you for the link. I will be sending out some more e-mails that I saw on your link.

Ms. Casey's Daughter
29 posted on 11/12/2005 4:43:48 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank you! If you could send an e-mail and tell others maybe we could help prevent this tradgety!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


30 posted on 11/12/2005 4:44:29 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY

Have prayed, will continue to pray, sent this to many of my praying friends, will write to the embassy link you posted. Keep us informed. James 5:16 "....the effectual, fervent prayer of a rightous person avails much."


31 posted on 11/12/2005 4:44:53 PM PST by ironmaidenPR2717 (You wouldn't worry so much about what most people think of you if you'd realize they really don't.)
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To: MSCASEY
It is not clear if the police will take any action to protect the Christians.

I guess the "World's Largest Democracy" moniker is a wee bit overstated.

Prayer bump indeed.

32 posted on 11/12/2005 4:45:35 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: MSCASEY

Not clear on the concept.


33 posted on 11/12/2005 4:46:11 PM PST by firebrand
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To: DuncanWaring

That is just the very best idea I have heard in a long time.


34 posted on 11/12/2005 4:47:06 PM PST by firebrand
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To: ironmaidenPR2717

Thank you so very much! I have also sent this link to my pastor in India and told him to tell the other pastor that there are people in America that care.

Ms. Casey's Daughter


35 posted on 11/12/2005 4:49:47 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: evolved_rage

Thank you for the prayer bump! All help is welcome!

Ms. Casey's Daughter


36 posted on 11/12/2005 4:51:29 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: Jemian
Hindus wouldn't mind adding Jesus to their pantheon of dieties, but the part when Jesus says, "I am THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life" really bothers them.

Yeah, that's usually the sticking point for just about everyone that doesn't fully acknowledge Jesus Christ as Savior and Messiah.

37 posted on 11/12/2005 4:53:28 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: firebrand
Not clear on the concept.

What concept are you speaking of? Ms. Casey's Daughter

38 posted on 11/12/2005 4:54:23 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: Fruitbat

They must believe somewhere in their hearts that something about accepting Jesus is true or else they would not care what some silly Christian says. They would not hate them with the passion that they do.

Ms. Casey's Daughter


39 posted on 11/12/2005 4:57:31 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: isrul
I wasn't aware that Hindus killed those who chose to follow a different path. Perhaps some of them are picking up this nasty habit from the mohammedan dogs to whom they're exposed.

Power structures EVERYWHERE become violent when faced with existential threats

The caste system guarantees that those of the upper classes stay in the upper classes, and are not threatened by smart people in the lower classes who want to rise above where their caste had put them.

Eliminate the caste system, and everybody needs to actually use ENERGY and INGENUITY to achieve and retain status. This can be very threatening to the mediocre

40 posted on 11/12/2005 5:01:14 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I have heard some of the terrible things about the caste system.

Ms. Casey's Daughter


41 posted on 11/12/2005 5:05:26 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I thought it was to help the newly weds start out. The dowry instead goes to the parents of the groom.

Islam has it going the other way, with a "bride price" being paid to the father of the bride. Since this is often paid in advance, it explains a lot of the rage that some Muslim fathers feel when their (already paid for) daughter refuses to marry the guy arranged for her

42 posted on 11/12/2005 5:05:55 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: isrul
Yes, the Hindu religion is also one of the violent religions of the world and has murdered those who convert to Christianity through the centuries. They are the ones who created a caste system in India by beliefs in reincarnation and sacred cows, Uncle Johny may be a cockroach now so don't step on bugs,etc.
Christianity is the most powerful and passive of religions and demands obedience to the will of God and His Christ (thou shalt not kill, etc.)and yet has scared kings,despots,fascists,communists and other murdering terrorists the past 2 millennia.
The democrats are afraid of the faith of Christ also. I really believe that religious zealots and political fascists are afraid of the power of God and His Christ and will do anything to destroy those who believe on Him only for their salvation. The value system of the Lord is abomination to world thought as it condemns those who commit evil.
43 posted on 11/12/2005 5:10:10 PM PST by kindred (Democrats are amoral neo nazis with no values.)
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To: IndyInVa
This surprises me. I didn't think that Hindus were violent and threatening. None that I know of are like that.

Any cult rapidly becomes violent and threatening when:

1) They control an overwhelming majority of the populace.

2) Their beliefs have been written into law.

3) A threat emerges to their power or monthly cashflow.

44 posted on 11/12/2005 5:10:21 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: MSCASEY

Hi again Ms. Casey - I've formulated an email letter to the Indian Amb. (see below) but I don't want to send it until I get your opinion. How does this sound to you? Also, I'm in the process of composing a letter to the U.S. Ambassador to India and wanted to know if Pastor Matthews is a U.S. citizen.

Text of my letter:
Dear Mr. Ambassador Sen,
It has come to our attention that Christian believers in the state of Minachal Pradesh are being threatened with death if they do no convert back to Hinduism. Already, a pastor there has been beaten and the group who beat him are threatening to burn alive any who do not renounce their Christian faith. It is not clear if the police in that area will do anything to protect these people.
On your home page linked to your embassy you are quoted as saying in your address at Western Carolina University's Freshman Convocation on Tuesday (Aug. 23) “Any act of terrorism in the world is an attack on democracy,” and that "in India there is more than just tolerance – there is respect for the beliefs of others". I believe you were sincere in your statements.
Please, if there is any way you can investigate or intervene in this matter, we ask you most respectfully to do so.
Very sincerely..etc.etc.,


45 posted on 11/12/2005 5:23:41 PM PST by ironmaidenPR2717 (You wouldn't worry so much about what most people think of you if you'd realize they really don't.)
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To: ironmaidenPR2717
That letter sounds wonderful. Pastor.Johnson Mathews
lives in India in the Andhra Pradesh region, he is not a Christian convert because his father was also a pastor.

I have been writing Him for about three years. I have received many different pictures and know that he is for real.
This e-mail was the worst I have received regarding persecution. I know that it was a concern but did not expect this when I opened up my e-mail this morning.

Ms. Casey's Daughter
46 posted on 11/12/2005 5:40:08 PM PST by MSCASEY (Our God is an Awesome God! Please come soon Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY

^


47 posted on 11/12/2005 5:55:18 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: evolved_rage
I guess the "World's Largest Democracy" moniker is a wee bit overstated.

Not necessarily.

Remember, "democracy" is just a fancy word for "mob rule".

48 posted on 11/12/2005 5:55:18 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MSCASEY

I get VOM and am well aware of the stuff that happens to believers around the world, but your post just grabbed me, ya know? At our Women's Bible study this week, we talked about "putting on" (Colossions 3) the compassion of Christ and I thought to myself when I read your post that I could just pray or I could actually obey the prompting of the Spirit and "go the extra yard" (what a concept, huh?).

Signing off for now, will check back later (the letters were sent)


49 posted on 11/12/2005 5:55:36 PM PST by ironmaidenPR2717 (You wouldn't worry so much about what most people think of you if you'd realize they really don't.)
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To: MSCASEY

Here's a question I've asked of many but have gotten no good answers. Most have never considered the question.
Jesus told the disciples if they went to a city and were rejected, to brush the dust off their sandals and woe unto those who rejected Him.
At what point do we dust off our sandals and leave a country to reap what they've sown?
I'm not advocating doing this, I just want to know how this scripture fits with "go ye unto all the world".


50 posted on 11/12/2005 5:57:28 PM PST by Imnotalib
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